U.S. official: Iraqis told me WMDs sent to Syria

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I am NOT at all a fan of World Net Daily, but I can vouch for Ryan Mauro’s piece for several reasons. It corroborates earlier articles from other sources. It corroborates my own research. It revolves around a man of honor-not some political partisan hack or the Maple Syrup King of Vermont/Dr/Gov/Middle East expert and DNC chairman. Lastly, because Ryan is not WND, RNC, or DNC, but because he’s Ryan.

Many people like to stick to the partisan talking point that there was “NO WMD” or “No stockpiles” found in Iraq. This is inaccurate, misleading, and based on politicization of wartime facts. The ISG report found that Iraq was indeed a WMD threat (just as the UN had claimed only 2wks before the invasion), but not in the form of stockpiles. The ISG report even included pictures proving this, but people who believe anything the DNC says, and nothing the Bush Admin says don’t even look at the pictures. They just take other people’s opinions which they find palatable, and parrot them.

A former American overseer of Iraqi prisons says several dozen inmates who were members of Saddam Hussein’s military and intelligence forces boasted of helping transport weapons of mass destruction to Syria and Lebanon in the three months prior to Operation Iraqi Freedom.
Don Bordenkircher – who served two years as national director of prison and jail operations in Iraq– told WND that about 40 prisoners he spoke with “boasted of being involved in the transport of WMD warheads to Syria.”
A smaller number of prisoners, he said, claimed “they knew the locations of the missile hulls buried in Iraq.”

In early 2006, Saddam’s No. 2 Air Force officer, Georges Sada, told the New York Sun Iraq’s WMDs were moved into Syria six weeks before the war started.

note: Sada was given several awards before the war for his pre-invasion efforts at preventing an invasion and his direct support of the peace movement.

Four of the prisoners – civilians attached to the Iraqi military – said they worked at the al-Muthana Chemical Industries site. They said the cargo included nitrogen mustard gas warheads for Tariq I and II missiles.

This would be the ultra-secure military base where WMD had been found several times before, and where the ISG found thousands of empty chemical artillery shells next to drums of “concentrated pesticide” as well as dual-use perfume atomizers bought in the west after 2002 that were being prepared for use in dispersing chemical weapons
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Of course, the Iraqis got around shutting down the complex during the late 1990’s by bribing the French and other UNSC members to reclassifiy certain things as “dual-use”, and so it came to pass that the al Muthanna chemical weapons complex became the al Muthanna chemical weapons and the most heavily guarded shampoo complex in the history of mankind
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The prisoners were members of the Iraqi military or civilians assigned to the Iraqi military, often stationed at munitions facilities, according to Bordenkircher. He said he was told the WMDs were shipped by truck into Syria, and some ended up in Lebanon’s Bekaa Valley.

pre-war satellite images confirm this, and despite those images being shown in the ISG report…the politicized mantra from the Democratic Party (members of which actually, openly admit to misleading people on the war recently) is still believed.
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…and besides…why would we possibly believe that Saddam’s regime would bury/dump illegal stuff in the sand anyway? (again, proponents/parrots of the “nowmd” theme didn’t even take the time to look at the pictures in the Duelfer Report).
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…and let’s not forget the desperate need that the Iraqi Intelligence Services had for rare New Zealand Mole pesticide (opponents of the war would have us believe that the Iraqi Intelligence Services were also responsible for secretly carrying out a genocide against an unreported plague of New Zealand moles…..yet, PETA remains silent).
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Look, it’s like this, people can say what they want about President Bush and his administration’s claims before the war. Me, I ignore the claims all together and look at the UN’s claims from 2wks before the invasion.

 

More specifically:

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    • Security Council resolution 687 (1991) called for the destruction, removal or rendering harmless, inter alia, of all Iraq’s research, development, support and manufacturing facilities related to CW activity.
    • UNSCOM also estimated that based on unaccounted for growth media, Iraq’s potential production of anthrax could have been in the range of about 15,000 to 25,000 litres.
    • Based on all the available evidence, the strong presumption is that about 10,000 litres of anthrax was not destroyed and may still exist.
    • In December 1998, there were over 20 spray dryers and 70 freeze dryers under inventory control including some of these items that could be used for the drying of bulk BW agent. In addition, there was evidence that Iraq was developing the capability of indigenously manufacturing spray dryers.
    • Iraq currently possesses the technology and materials, including fermenters, bacterial growth media and seed stock, to enable it to produce anthrax. Many of the skilled personnel familiar with anthrax production have been transferred to civilian industries.
    • Since Iraq produced more botulinum toxin than other agents and it still possesses the expertise and possibly the seed stock, material inputs (such as growth media), and equipment (fermenters), then production at least at the scale of its pre-1991 level could be rapidly recommenced.
    • The production and downstream processing equipment needed for Clostridium perfringens is available in Iraq in the civilian sector such as at vaccine plants.
    • Based on its estimate of the amounts of various types of media unaccounted for, UNSCOM estimated that the quantities of additional undeclared agent that potentially could have been produced were: 3,000 – 11,000 litres of botulinum toxin, 6,000 – 16,000 litres of anthrax, up to 5,600 litres of Clostridium perfringens, and a significant quantity of an unknown bacterial agent.
    • The assertion that aflatoxin was one of the agents investigated by Iraq in its BW programme is supported by the analysis of video tapes of field trials found in the Haidar Farm cache as well as documents and information provided by Iraq. There is little doubt that, as Iraq declared, aflatoxin was designated as agent C for the purposes of research, development and production.
    • Iraq has demonstrated the ability to manufacture both chemical and biological equipment, such as simple process equipment and fermenters.
    • While Iraq’s inventory of aerial chemical and biological bombs was presumably eliminated, its ability to reconstitute that inventory remains largely intact.
    • Iraq still had significant stocks of conventional 122-mm warheads and 155-mm projectiles similar to those previously modified for use with chemical agents. Iraq’s industries appear fully capable of modifying these conventional munitions for use with chemical agents as well as the indigenous production of most or all of their components.
    • Except for the artillery rocket and three aerial bombs filled with VX for corrosion and stability tests, Iraq declared that VX had not been weaponized. However, in April/May 1998, UNSCOM took remnants of missile warheads that had been unilaterally destroyed by Iraq for analysis. The analysis showed traces of VX degradation products, and a chemical known to be a stabilizer for VX.
    • There are 550 Mustard filled shells and up to 450 mustard filled aerial bombs unaccounted for since 1998. The mustard filled shells account for a couple of tonnes of agent while the aerial bombs account for approximately 70 tonnes
    • Iraq is self-sufficient with respect to the availability of starting materials required for production of Mustard
    • It is known that Iraq had tested different types of aerial spray or other devices capable of disseminating Mustard agent.
    • Of concern is the more general question of Iraq’s intentions with respect to RPVs as CBW delivery systems and the relationship to the spray tank development.
    • Given Iraq’s history of concealment with respect to its VX programme it cannot be excluded that it has retained some capability with regard to VX.
    • Iraq’s account of the number of bombs and warheads filled with anthrax has changed on several occasions.
    • There has been a surge of activity in the missile technology field in Iraq in the past four years.
    • In attempting to acquire not only operational missiles but also the associated know-how and the means of production of a two-stage missile with a solid rocket motor and a liquid propulsion engine, Iraq had apparently sought to establish a sound technological basis for an industrial infrastructure capable of producing an advanced short-range ballistic missile (SRBM – up to 1000 kilometres range).
    • A number of areas of uncertainty regarding Iraq ballistic missile programmes still exist. Many of these relate to Iraq’s unilateral destruction of missile components and propellants. Other areas relate to imports, accountancy and material balance questions.

The Democratic Party has time and time and time again lied and deliberately divided the nation’s war effort with the aim of lessening support for America’s goals in Iraq, and more towards perpetuating the enemy’s objectives via political means (the way in which insurgents win wars; by compelling the enemy’s political arm to support their objectives, seek them, and gain them).

The Democrat’s Congress has shown itself in no uncertain terms to have lied to get into power. They flip flop and dance around and argue both sides of an issue, accept no responsibility, allow no debate, and deflect accountability by pointing fingers away from themselves. Isn’t it time to dare to ask, “if they lied about this, that, and the other thing, then perhaps they’ve misled on Iraq,” and if one DARES to ask how Democrats might have misled on Iraq…then they are no longer allowed to be a Democrat. Some dissent is patriotic, but not all. There are types of dissent that are seditious, treasonous, and aid enemies of our nation more than it aids us.

Do you dare to ask how Democrats have misled on Iraq-ignore the Bush Admin for a moment here, and ask about Democrats. We’ve read plenty claims about the Republicans, etc. What about Democrats?

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totally dispicable that the Dems areusing out National security as a pawn in thier quest for power.

I am NOT at all a fan of World Net Daily, but I can vouch for Ryan Mauro’s piece

This is part of the problem, Scott. Until journalists in the mainstream start talking about it in the New York Times, 60 Minutes, etc., there will not be any significant challenge to the established mainstream “no wmd found” narrative, save perhaps 50 years down the road, by historians. Openly partisan sources will always have the credibility challenge, other than with the amen chorus.

The fact that you’re a Democrat gives you a default credibility the rest of us lacks in the eyes of knee-jerk Republican rejectionists; the fact that you blog here at Flopping Aces, takes it away.

I’m not saying at all, that putting the information out there, even from partisan sources, doesn’t create inroads; but it’s difficult to do so, as it’s easier for partisans to attack and reject the news source than it is for them to examine the content for any validity to the claims. Hence why it is usually preferable to cite from the mainstream whenever possible (except FOX News, which is mainstream, but in the eyes of political opponents, held suspect).

Nice post, you’ve been after it for a long time.

I also remember Debka reporting some details on this before the war started.

Greetings:

You mean while the US was doing all that wonderful multilateral diplomacy at the UN, Saddam was using that time to prepare for war? My God, who could have thought of that!

President Bush gave his Axis of Evil speech in January 2002 (the month after Bin Laden escaped to Pakistan), then invaded Iraq 15months later. According to opponents of the invasion of Iraq, by invading Iraq 16months after UBL escaped…Pres Bush “took his eye off the ball” so that he could “rush to war” over the subsequent 15 months.

It’s called the faux-liberal timeline of history

Nice piece Scott.

I own Sada’s book, Saddam’s Secrets, Scott. Refer to it often, and it’s quite the biography of his life. His accounts that Syria was a recipient to WMD actually run parallel to noted satellite movement by UNMOVIC observed activity as well. He has no doubts they not only existed, but were moved in the run up to OIF – the bulk of which to Syria.

Which is why no one will ever convince me that WMD did not exist. And they try to qualify that statement with a parsed meaning of WMD. How can you not consider the stashes we have documented retrieving, mounted on the prosribed Samud missiles Saddam possesses after 1998 as a WMD atop a missile?? I guess they prefer to define it as nuke only, and bioweaponry doesn’t count. Altho Saddam’s nuke program was alive and well… under the radar level…. ready to be reconstituted at first opportunity.

Sadly, the western media shunned Sada’s book release, and his statements, by virtually ignoring his presence. He did not want to write that book, but was pressured into it by those who wanted the truth, as he knew it to be, laid out for the world to see. The man really preferred to lay low. Tho Amazon ranks it as #17 in the Iraq history sellers, I suspect more read a romance novel or fiction spy thriller than read real history. It goes against the grain of what has been pounded into our heads. But I, for one, would love to see a Hollywood reenactment movie made. A “true to the book” account, of course…. should such a critter exist.

BTW, are you aware that Sada’s brother is the Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad? This man is not removed from the internal contacts between these countries. Sada, in the book, made a personal plea for his brother to come clean. He has not done so, of course (talk about a short lifespan in the wake….) But Syria and Israel have taken notable diplomatic steps to reconcile differences in the past year.

I’ll wager that history has far more to shed on Dubya’s term and legacy than we shall ever find in today’s media. Perhaps we will not live to see it… but our kids and grandkids will.

This piece is a total fabrication, from beginning to end. NPR tells me so.
Some author was given prime space on the radio this morning (8/5) to promote his new book, in which he documents the fact that there never were any WMD in Iraq, and that orders came from high up in the White House to fabricate evidence against Iraq, and that there was never any purchase of yellowcake uranium by Iraq.
So there.
We know the story is true, because it appeared on NPR.
I guess Dan Rather was not available for doing the interview.
A high-ranking Iraqi defector (paid $5,000,000 to defect) has kindly provided all of this information, and we know that he is an honest man.
So ignore the aerial photographs. They were faked.
Ignore the many interviews with the Iraqi technicians. They all lied.
Ignore the history of Mohammed el Baradei and the UN weapons inspectors. They all lied as well.
Ignore the photos of Iraqi materiel taken at various ports.
Ignore the fact that Russia had to help move the stuff to Syria because their fingerprints were all over everything, as they were the suppliers.
Ignore the gassing of the Kurds.
Just ignore everything.
On the other hand, I am reliably informed that there are folk out there who still believe the Earth is flat.

I know an Air Force Intelligence Officer who was in Iraq. When I asked if he knew of any WMD he assured me that there were, for sure, WMD in Iraq. Everything else I know also says the Dems are the liars. I just wish Bush had been more aggressive in smacking them down. I think that was a horrible mistake on his part not to.

Yonason,
Can you tell us more about what your intel officer contact said?

Wow.

The photo of the eyedroppers sent a chill up my spine.

“A former American overseer of Iraqi prisons says several dozen inmates who were members of Saddam Hussein’s military and intelligence forces boasted of helping transport weapons of mass destruction to Syria and Lebanon in the three months prior to Operation Iraqi Freedom.
Don Bordenkircher – who served two years as national director of prison and jail operations in Iraq– told WND that about 40 prisoners he spoke with “boasted of being involved in the transport of WMD warheads to Syria.”
A smaller number of prisoners, he said, claimed “they knew the locations of the missile hulls buried in Iraq.”

Hey!

I’ve got an idea.

Let’s go dig them up!

We have occupied the country for five years and will likely do so for another 20-50 so it isn’t as if we can’t go where we like.

Unless, of course, Bordenkircher was inventing.

Or unless the Bush Admin doesn’t want to highlight their intel fubars, and force a fresh round of brinkmanship w Syria on a scale similar to that which was presented to Saddam.