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	<title>Comments on: Obama and McCain Selling Same Iraq Strategy: Anti-War Left Continues Silence</title>
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		<title>By: Dave Noble</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/07/31/obama-and-mccain-selling-same-iraq-strategy-anti-war-left-continues-silence/#comment-102216</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrian,

Wait, didn&#039;t I read here on Curt&#039;s post that McCain&#039;s and Obama&#039;s policies on Iraq are merging.  &quot;Victory is at hand.&quot; says Rovin on another thread.  Which is it?

Are McCain&#039;s and Obama&#039;s policies on Iraq substantially different or perilously close to being in agreement?  Is victory at hand or is it going to take y-e-a-r-s?  And once again I ask for a definition of victory.  A stable Iraq able to maintain order within its borders and able to defend against attacks from without its borders.?  I believe that with you that will take many years.  Then why is Bush now declaring victory and talking about starting to withdraw the troops?

I am glad we are bringing our troops home.  I trust we will do it carefully.  Those are the priorities.  But as a secondary issue I hear spinning inconsistency and incoherence from the Bush Administration and its supporters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Adrian,</p>
<p>Wait, didn&#8217;t I read here on Curt&#8217;s post that McCain&#8217;s and Obama&#8217;s policies on Iraq are merging.  &#8220;Victory is at hand.&#8221; says Rovin on another thread.  Which is it?</p>
<p>Are McCain&#8217;s and Obama&#8217;s policies on Iraq substantially different or perilously close to being in agreement?  Is victory at hand or is it going to take y-e-a-r-s?  And once again I ask for a definition of victory.  A stable Iraq able to maintain order within its borders and able to defend against attacks from without its borders.?  I believe that with you that will take many years.  Then why is Bush now declaring victory and talking about starting to withdraw the troops?</p>
<p>I am glad we are bringing our troops home.  I trust we will do it carefully.  Those are the priorities.  But as a secondary issue I hear spinning inconsistency and incoherence from the Bush Administration and its supporters.</p>
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		<title>By: AdrianS</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/07/31/obama-and-mccain-selling-same-iraq-strategy-anti-war-left-continues-silence/#comment-102116</link>
		<dc:creator>AdrianS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have we forgotten what the generals in Iraq have repeatedly said about any withdrawal.  It will always be dependent upon the Iraqi military being able to handle their internal and border security.  According to the generals, this will not be possible for several y-e-a-r-s.  The Democrats can get as excited as they want.  The reality of the war is not for sale to Obama&#039;s politics of expediency.  The whole of Barack Obama&#039;s experience on Iraq would fit comfortably on the butt of a flea.

www.nextgenerationcorp.com/nextgenblog/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Have we forgotten what the generals in Iraq have repeatedly said about any withdrawal.  It will always be dependent upon the Iraqi military being able to handle their internal and border security.  According to the generals, this will not be possible for several y-e-a-r-s.  The Democrats can get as excited as they want.  The reality of the war is not for sale to Obama&#8217;s politics of expediency.  The whole of Barack Obama&#8217;s experience on Iraq would fit comfortably on the butt of a flea.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/nextgenblog/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/nextgenblog/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Malensek</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/07/31/obama-and-mccain-selling-same-iraq-strategy-anti-war-left-continues-silence/#comment-102001</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Malensek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maliki, Petraeus....couple more weeks, and the entire Democratic Party will put it in their 2008 platform publication-that means even Howard Dean too.</description>
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		<title>By: Fit fit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fit fit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forgot to mention Maliki, he&#039;s on board now too.</description>
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