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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Settled science&#8221;?  31,072 American scientists  just say NO to AGW &#8220;concensus&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: stix1972</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/07/29/settled-science-31072-american-scientists-just-say-no-to-agw-concensus/#comment-103932</link>
		<dc:creator>stix1972</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t remeber which comment thread the whole thing about &quot;peer review&quot; was on so I am putting it here.   Here is a post about what &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/08/a-quick-thought.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;peer review&lt;/a&gt;&quot; is all about</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I don&#8217;t remeber which comment thread the whole thing about &#8220;peer review&#8221; was on so I am putting it here.   Here is a post about what &#8220;<a href="http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/08/a-quick-thought.html" rel="nofollow">peer review</a>&#8221; is all about</p>
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		<title>By: stix1972</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/07/29/settled-science-31072-american-scientists-just-say-no-to-agw-concensus/#comment-101813</link>
		<dc:creator>stix1972</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks yonason.  I knew of the Climate Skeptic but not all of the others</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Thanks yonason.  I knew of the Climate Skeptic but not all of the others</p>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/07/29/settled-science-31072-american-scientists-just-say-no-to-agw-concensus/#comment-101809</link>
		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/07/climate-blogs-t.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CLIMATE &quot;DENIER&quot; BLOGS, fyi&lt;/A&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><a HREF="http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2008/07/climate-blogs-t.html" rel="nofollow">CLIMATE &#8220;DENIER&#8221; BLOGS, fyi</a></p>
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		<title>By: stix1972</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/07/29/settled-science-31072-american-scientists-just-say-no-to-agw-concensus/#comment-101808</link>
		<dc:creator>stix1972</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Send in the clowns.

Yes he still does not get it.  Not every scientist believes in AGW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Send in the clowns.</p>
<p>Yes he still does not get it.  Not every scientist believes in AGW.</p>
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		<title>By: scriptamanent</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/07/29/settled-science-31072-american-scientists-just-say-no-to-agw-concensus/#comment-101807</link>
		<dc:creator>scriptamanent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the language:

&quot;those that deny that climate scientists agree that global warming is primarily caused by humans burning fossil fuels&quot;.

Check how subtly the word &quot;deny&quot; conveys all the ideological content of the message: &quot;those that deny...&quot; (We have heard the word &quot;negationist&quot; also, somewhere, sometimes).

Also: &quot;climate scientists&quot;. All of them?

Nobody &quot;denies&quot; that SOME (many?) climate scientists agree that global warming is primarily caused by humans burning fuels&quot;. Everybody knows that.

And as today, only a mind hopelessly lost for common sense and truth, can &quot;deny&quot; that SOME (many?) climate scientists agree that global warming IS NOT primarily caused by humans burning fuels&quot;.

Minority? Even if it was only ONE scientist, he has to be proved wrong for what he says, not for being the only one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Check out the language:</p>
<p>&#8220;those that deny that climate scientists agree that global warming is primarily caused by humans burning fossil fuels&#8221;.</p>
<p>Check how subtly the word &#8220;deny&#8221; conveys all the ideological content of the message: &#8220;those that deny&#8230;&#8221; (We have heard the word &#8220;negationist&#8221; also, somewhere, sometimes).</p>
<p>Also: &#8220;climate scientists&#8221;. All of them?</p>
<p>Nobody &#8220;denies&#8221; that SOME (many?) climate scientists agree that global warming is primarily caused by humans burning fuels&#8221;. Everybody knows that.</p>
<p>And as today, only a mind hopelessly lost for common sense and truth, can &#8220;deny&#8221; that SOME (many?) climate scientists agree that global warming IS NOT primarily caused by humans burning fuels&#8221;.</p>
<p>Minority? Even if it was only ONE scientist, he has to be proved wrong for what he says, not for being the only one.</p>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/07/29/settled-science-31072-american-scientists-just-say-no-to-agw-concensus/#comment-101806</link>
		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;MH, if anybody is a geocentrist, it’s those that deny that climate scientists agree that global warming is primarily caused by humans burning fossil fuels&quot;&lt;/em&gt; -- Dougy

Is his head as dense as a rock? Or, is it as empty as a Vacuum?

T-H-E-R-E    I-S    N-O    C-O-N-S-E-N-S-U-S!!!  

&lt;EM&gt;&quot;We are standing with Descartes, Galileo, and Copernicus.&quot;&lt;/EM&gt;

Yeah, . . . &lt;a href=&quot;http://stevenmulak.chicopee.com/images/Jennifers%20Clowns.JPG&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Leroy Descartes, Bart Galileo, Steve Copernicus, Marie Kerry, and Gomer Einstein.&lt;/a&gt;  You stand with them, then, and I&#039;ll stay over here &quot;in the minority&quot;.

Bozo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><em>&#8220;MH, if anybody is a geocentrist, it’s those that deny that climate scientists agree that global warming is primarily caused by humans burning fossil fuels&#8221;</em> &#8212; Dougy</p>
<p>Is his head as dense as a rock? Or, is it as empty as a Vacuum?</p>
<p>T-H-E-R-E    I-S    N-O    C-O-N-S-E-N-S-U-S!!!  </p>
<p><em>&#8220;We are standing with Descartes, Galileo, and Copernicus.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Yeah, . . . <a href="http://stevenmulak.chicopee.com/images/Jennifers%20Clowns.JPG" rel="nofollow">Leroy Descartes, Bart Galileo, Steve Copernicus, Marie Kerry, and Gomer Einstein.</a>  You stand with them, then, and I&#8217;ll stay over here &#8220;in the minority&#8221;.</p>
<p>Bozo!</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MH, if anybody is a geocentrist, it&#039;s those that deny that climate scientists agree that global warming is primarily caused by humans burning fossil fuels. 

The conclusion that global warming is primarily caused by humans and that it will continue if greenhouse gas emissions are not reduced has been endorsed by at least 35 scientific societies and academies of science, including ALL of the national academies of science of the major industrialized countries. Even the U.S. National Academy of Sciences, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, and the Joint Science Academies of the major industrialized and developing nations explicitly use the word &quot;consensus&quot; when referring to this conclusion. 

You and yours are in the minority here. We are standing with Descartes, Galileo, and Copernicus.

Lastly, are you telling me that the petition has now been fully examined by independent objective bodies?  If so, pls. provide a link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>MH, if anybody is a geocentrist, it&#8217;s those that deny that climate scientists agree that global warming is primarily caused by humans burning fossil fuels. </p>
<p>The conclusion that global warming is primarily caused by humans and that it will continue if greenhouse gas emissions are not reduced has been endorsed by at least 35 scientific societies and academies of science, including ALL of the national academies of science of the major industrialized countries. Even the U.S. National Academy of Sciences, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, and the Joint Science Academies of the major industrialized and developing nations explicitly use the word &#8220;consensus&#8221; when referring to this conclusion. </p>
<p>You and yours are in the minority here. We are standing with Descartes, Galileo, and Copernicus.</p>
<p>Lastly, are you telling me that the petition has now been fully examined by independent objective bodies?  If so, pls. provide a link.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave Noble, this petition drive has been criticized since it was going on (years), and before completion.   It is recently, perhaps in light of the cooling trends and increased studies coming out, that the name additions have stepped up in speed.  In fact, as time goes on and the events change, more become skeptical.

However it is not &quot;old news&quot; as the final petition was just released in the last month.  All attempts to sabatoge it, debunk it were premature.

The signatures, the participants are there, fully disclosed along with the peer reviewed paper sent with the petition for the responders analysis.

Again, you, like Doug, are very willing to accept that *some* in the science community, and government at all levels, are telling you that the sun revolves around a flat earth, and the story is closed and the science settled.

The price to be paid if the AGW proponents are wrong is extremely high.  Considering that the planet has been cooling for the past decade, not warming, and that only recently did JPL get the TES and Aura satellite launched to measure stratosphere data... combined with the willingness of all to accept that we know little of vapor flow thru the layers and their effects, all point to the fact that such extreme action is beyond premature.  It&#039;s economic suicide based on only a segment of science and political activists.

You may be ready to be herded down that road.  But you&#039;ll be dragging me, kicking, screaming, biting and fighting.  And frankly, Mother Nature is proving you all to be a bunch of dupes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Dave Noble, this petition drive has been criticized since it was going on (years), and before completion.   It is recently, perhaps in light of the cooling trends and increased studies coming out, that the name additions have stepped up in speed.  In fact, as time goes on and the events change, more become skeptical.</p>
<p>However it is not &#8220;old news&#8221; as the final petition was just released in the last month.  All attempts to sabatoge it, debunk it were premature.</p>
<p>The signatures, the participants are there, fully disclosed along with the peer reviewed paper sent with the petition for the responders analysis.</p>
<p>Again, you, like Doug, are very willing to accept that *some* in the science community, and government at all levels, are telling you that the sun revolves around a flat earth, and the story is closed and the science settled.</p>
<p>The price to be paid if the AGW proponents are wrong is extremely high.  Considering that the planet has been cooling for the past decade, not warming, and that only recently did JPL get the TES and Aura satellite launched to measure stratosphere data&#8230; combined with the willingness of all to accept that we know little of vapor flow thru the layers and their effects, all point to the fact that such extreme action is beyond premature.  It&#8217;s economic suicide based on only a segment of science and political activists.</p>
<p>You may be ready to be herded down that road.  But you&#8217;ll be dragging me, kicking, screaming, biting and fighting.  And frankly, Mother Nature is proving you all to be a bunch of dupes.</p>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/07/29/settled-science-31072-american-scientists-just-say-no-to-agw-concensus/#comment-101735</link>
		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;This petition was cited repeatedly by different posters in previous threads on global warming.
It has also been analyzed and discussed in detail by others, including me.&quot;&lt;/em&gt; -- Dave Noble 

And you were then, as you are now, wrong
http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/07/05/another-global-warming-lie-bites-the-dust/#comment-94941

Besides, if AGW fanatics are still trying to trash that, and other proofs that there is no consensus, then it&#039;s an ongoing story, and hence not &quot;old news.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><em>&#8220;This petition was cited repeatedly by different posters in previous threads on global warming.<br />
It has also been analyzed and discussed in detail by others, including me.&#8221;</em> &#8212; Dave Noble </p>
<p>And you were then, as you are now, wrong<br />
<a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/07/05/another-global-warming-lie-bites-the-dust/#comment-94941" rel="nofollow">http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/07/05/another-global-warming-lie-bites-the-dust/#comment-94941</a></p>
<p>Besides, if AGW fanatics are still trying to trash that, and other proofs that there is no consensus, then it&#8217;s an ongoing story, and hence not &#8220;old news.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Noble</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/07/29/settled-science-31072-american-scientists-just-say-no-to-agw-concensus/#comment-101729</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mata, et al.

This petition was cited repeatedly by different posters in previous threads on global warming.
It has also been analyzed and discussed in detail by others, including me.  Respectfully, this is old news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Mata, et al.</p>
<p>This petition was cited repeatedly by different posters in previous threads on global warming.<br />
It has also been analyzed and discussed in detail by others, including me.  Respectfully, this is old news.</p>
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