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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;The Family That Planted Corn In The Front Yard Of Their $500,000 Home Is Gone&#8221; [Reader Post]</title>
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		<title>By: AntiBVBL.net</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/07/10/the-family-that-planted-corn-in-the-front-yard-of-their-500000-home-is-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-96701</link>
		<dc:creator>AntiBVBL.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 03:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The family quoted in the article are the in-laws of the one of the nativists organizations core group and are not reflective of the average County citizen.

This issue has been spun by local officials and has not been given fair coverage in the MSM.  Prince William County residents continue to dispute that there has been any real benefit to this policy.  The Chairman attempts to make connections between drop in enrollment of ESOL students and crime statistics when in fact neighboring jurisdictions have lost a greater percentage of ESOL students without having to spend $4 million dollars!  In term of crime statistics, we have been on a downward trend since 2004 and the police department doesn&#039;t attribute the recent decrease with the &quot;Immigration Resolution.&quot;  In fact, after the passage of this policy, in the second half of 2007 the County experienced greater numbers of murders, burglaries, auto thefts, assaults, etc... than they had in the first 6 months of the year.

Glad to know there are blogs out there where the truth can be told.  Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>The family quoted in the article are the in-laws of the one of the nativists organizations core group and are not reflective of the average County citizen.</p>
<p>This issue has been spun by local officials and has not been given fair coverage in the MSM.  Prince William County residents continue to dispute that there has been any real benefit to this policy.  The Chairman attempts to make connections between drop in enrollment of ESOL students and crime statistics when in fact neighboring jurisdictions have lost a greater percentage of ESOL students without having to spend $4 million dollars!  In term of crime statistics, we have been on a downward trend since 2004 and the police department doesn&#8217;t attribute the recent decrease with the &#8220;Immigration Resolution.&#8221;  In fact, after the passage of this policy, in the second half of 2007 the County experienced greater numbers of murders, burglaries, auto thefts, assaults, etc&#8230; than they had in the first 6 months of the year.</p>
<p>Glad to know there are blogs out there where the truth can be told.  Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Scrapiron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scrapiron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 23:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Judging Hispanics by the MS-13 is like judging the Italians by the Mafia.

BillC,

Thoughtful post, Bro.&quot;

Hey, in my life I&#039;ve had many Italian friends but you have to admit that with the Iralians we did get the Mafia, with the Russian&#039;s we got the Russian Mafia, and along with the Mexicans we got MS13. Add in several hundred &#039;Americans&#039; that have been murdered by criminal Mexicans and those killed by Mexican drunk drivers. 99% of those killed by Mexicans would be alive today if the criminals had been stopped at the border. Why can&#039;t people understand the word Illegal, and know it&#039;s the same as criminal. Just the facts, mam, just the facts.

&quot;The only thing standing between you and lower gas prices is a Democrat&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&#8220;Judging Hispanics by the MS-13 is like judging the Italians by the Mafia.</p>
<p>BillC,</p>
<p>Thoughtful post, Bro.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey, in my life I&#8217;ve had many Italian friends but you have to admit that with the Iralians we did get the Mafia, with the Russian&#8217;s we got the Russian Mafia, and along with the Mexicans we got MS13. Add in several hundred &#8216;Americans&#8217; that have been murdered by criminal Mexicans and those killed by Mexican drunk drivers. 99% of those killed by Mexicans would be alive today if the criminals had been stopped at the border. Why can&#8217;t people understand the word Illegal, and know it&#8217;s the same as criminal. Just the facts, mam, just the facts.</p>
<p>&#8220;The only thing standing between you and lower gas prices is a Democrat&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Noble</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/07/10/the-family-that-planted-corn-in-the-front-yard-of-their-500000-home-is-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-96609</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

Besides being melodramatic and rude, your problem is that you can&#039;t stay on point.  How you went from illegal immigrants to GITMO terrorists living in our houses and raping our daughters may make sense to your fevered imagination (and Barbara&#039;s it seems), but it doesn&#039;t make sense to anyone thinking calmly and rationally.

I thought living in a gated community made one feel more secure, not more frightened.  The GITMO terrorists are not moving into anyone&#039;s house and raping their daughters.  Dude, you scare me sometimes.

BTW, I have never expressed a view on illegal immigration or the release of GITMO detainees on this blog, so you make an unwarranted assumption regarding my view on those issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Mike,</p>
<p>Besides being melodramatic and rude, your problem is that you can&#8217;t stay on point.  How you went from illegal immigrants to GITMO terrorists living in our houses and raping our daughters may make sense to your fevered imagination (and Barbara&#8217;s it seems), but it doesn&#8217;t make sense to anyone thinking calmly and rationally.</p>
<p>I thought living in a gated community made one feel more secure, not more frightened.  The GITMO terrorists are not moving into anyone&#8217;s house and raping their daughters.  Dude, you scare me sometimes.</p>
<p>BTW, I have never expressed a view on illegal immigration or the release of GITMO detainees on this blog, so you make an unwarranted assumption regarding my view on those issues.</p>
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		<title>By: bbartlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>bbartlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;as dirty as the them Italian immigrants and German immigrants were. Least they’re not as bad as the Irish.&lt;/i&gt;

Generally speaking, immigrants in those other groups came to the US legally (not too surprising since it&#039;s hard to sneak your way across the Atlantic). 
In any case, a hundred years ago we had robustly pro-assimilation politicians. See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/troosevelt.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; for some excerpts of Teddy Roosevelt&#039;s opinions on the matter (shaped, at that time, by the existence of a large German-language population in the US). If we had similar policies today, then you could fairly say that anti-immigration sentiment was racist rather than merely an objection to the importation of other, relatively unsuccessful cultures.

&lt;i&gt;Depending on when it was built, your house was probably built by dirty Mexicans.&lt;/i&gt;

There are lots of benefits to having ten million extra people to work in the US. I don&#039;t doubt the total amount they (illegal immigrants) produce is enormous. But there are also costs associated with their presence: some estimate that about 4000 people are murdered every year in the US by illegal immigrants, and that a similar number are killed by illegals driving drunk. There can also be a strain on social services if a lot of poor people come into an area.
In general, if there is no assimilation you can assume that a large influx of Mexicans will result in an area becoming more like Mexico. I like the USA enough to assert that that is not a positive thing. And Mexican immigrants have been slow to assimilate (do some googling on the academic performance of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th generation hispanic immigrants and you&#039;ll see what I mean). German, Italian and Irish immigrants have a much better track record in terms of 2nd-generation (and onward) assimilation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><i>as dirty as the them Italian immigrants and German immigrants were. Least they’re not as bad as the Irish.</i></p>
<p>Generally speaking, immigrants in those other groups came to the US legally (not too surprising since it&#8217;s hard to sneak your way across the Atlantic).<br />
In any case, a hundred years ago we had robustly pro-assimilation politicians. See <a href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/troosevelt.asp" rel="nofollow">here</a> for some excerpts of Teddy Roosevelt&#8217;s opinions on the matter (shaped, at that time, by the existence of a large German-language population in the US). If we had similar policies today, then you could fairly say that anti-immigration sentiment was racist rather than merely an objection to the importation of other, relatively unsuccessful cultures.</p>
<p><i>Depending on when it was built, your house was probably built by dirty Mexicans.</i></p>
<p>There are lots of benefits to having ten million extra people to work in the US. I don&#8217;t doubt the total amount they (illegal immigrants) produce is enormous. But there are also costs associated with their presence: some estimate that about 4000 people are murdered every year in the US by illegal immigrants, and that a similar number are killed by illegals driving drunk. There can also be a strain on social services if a lot of poor people come into an area.<br />
In general, if there is no assimilation you can assume that a large influx of Mexicans will result in an area becoming more like Mexico. I like the USA enough to assert that that is not a positive thing. And Mexican immigrants have been slow to assimilate (do some googling on the academic performance of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th generation hispanic immigrants and you&#8217;ll see what I mean). German, Italian and Irish immigrants have a much better track record in terms of 2nd-generation (and onward) assimilation.</p>
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		<title>By: Fit fit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fit fit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jealous? No, not really.  

I live in a nicely sized, beautiful house that I largely built with my own two hands.  Depending on when it was built, your house was probably built by dirty Mexicans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Jealous? No, not really.  </p>
<p>I live in a nicely sized, beautiful house that I largely built with my own two hands.  Depending on when it was built, your house was probably built by dirty Mexicans.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 03:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;[Mike]  probably lives in one of those gated golf course communities that are so popular on Hilton Head.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Jealous FF?

After years of being subject to the crime of the inner city in Washington, DC. and New York City before that I am glad to say I DO live behind the gates of a community with our own private and ARMED security.  And we have TWO golf courses!

And as for Dave Hussein Noble: Your overreaction is emblematic of your sensitivity to endangering your family by being so cavalier to the negative aspects of unregulated immigration.

You&#039;re becoming a joke!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><i>&#8220;[Mike]  probably lives in one of those gated golf course communities that are so popular on Hilton Head.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Jealous FF?</p>
<p>After years of being subject to the crime of the inner city in Washington, DC. and New York City before that I am glad to say I DO live behind the gates of a community with our own private and ARMED security.  And we have TWO golf courses!</p>
<p>And as for Dave Hussein Noble: Your overreaction is emblematic of your sensitivity to endangering your family by being so cavalier to the negative aspects of unregulated immigration.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re becoming a joke!</p>
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		<title>By: Fit fit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fit fit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 03:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the dirty Mexicans were the rapists... there&#039;s no need to &quot;twist&quot; that comment to make it offensive anyway.

I live in a pretty muticultural neighborhood already.  I would guess one of the reason Mike has such a myopic view of America is that he probably lives in one of those gated golf course communities that are so popular on Hilton Head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I thought the dirty Mexicans were the rapists&#8230; there&#8217;s no need to &#8220;twist&#8221; that comment to make it offensive anyway.</p>
<p>I live in a pretty muticultural neighborhood already.  I would guess one of the reason Mike has such a myopic view of America is that he probably lives in one of those gated golf course communities that are so popular on Hilton Head.</p>
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		<title>By: BarbaraS</title>
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		<dc:creator>BarbaraS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 02:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One warning: make sure your daughter’s have a good lock on their door.

No matter what age.

David Noble

Just like a liberal to twist a statement for his own advantage.  Mike makes the comment the terrorists are rapists and you take it as an insult to your daughter.  And you wonder why we don&#039;t take you liberals seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>One warning: make sure your daughter’s have a good lock on their door.</p>
<p>No matter what age.</p>
<p>David Noble</p>
<p>Just like a liberal to twist a statement for his own advantage.  Mike makes the comment the terrorists are rapists and you take it as an insult to your daughter.  And you wonder why we don&#8217;t take you liberals seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Noble</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/07/10/the-family-that-planted-corn-in-the-front-yard-of-their-500000-home-is-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-96212</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Mike,

Be man enough to aim your childishness at me.  Leave my daughters out of it.
I&#039;m sure glad we live in country like ours where red-blooded patriots like you would never stoop so low as to take a shot at somebody&#039;s daughter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Hey, Mike,</p>
<p>Be man enough to aim your childishness at me.  Leave my daughters out of it.<br />
I&#8217;m sure glad we live in country like ours where red-blooded patriots like you would never stoop so low as to take a shot at somebody&#8217;s daughter.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/07/10/the-family-that-planted-corn-in-the-front-yard-of-their-500000-home-is-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-96185</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The loud music. The beer bottles. The littered diapers. All gone. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
What a shame that Fit Fit and Dave Hussein Noble didn&#039;t have the opportunity of that multicultural experience to bless their neighborhood.

Well, no matter. Perhaps Dave and FF can offer a room in their home to the GITMO terrorists once they are released. One warning: make sure your daughter&#039;s have a good lock on their door.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>The loud music. The beer bottles. The littered diapers. All gone. </p></blockquote>
<p>What a shame that Fit Fit and Dave Hussein Noble didn&#8217;t have the opportunity of that multicultural experience to bless their neighborhood.</p>
<p>Well, no matter. Perhaps Dave and FF can offer a room in their home to the GITMO terrorists once they are released. One warning: make sure your daughter&#8217;s have a good lock on their door.</p>
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