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		<title>By: yonason</title>
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		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JOE, #14

Powerline describes this as the Left needing to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/07/020947.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Move to the center now; move the center later&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (to the Left, of course).  They are perenially dishonest, as are the media who don&#039;t report that little deception of theirs.

But his main thesis there is that if things remain calm and the economy is stable, Obama could be a popular and successful president.  I don&#039;t think that&#039;s likely, given the frequent and profound instabilities that keep popping up everywhere.

Thanks for that new (to me) blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>JOE, #14</p>
<p>Powerline describes this as the Left needing to <a href="http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/07/020947.php" rel="nofollow"><b>Move to the center now; move the center later</b></a> (to the Left, of course).  They are perenially dishonest, as are the media who don&#8217;t report that little deception of theirs.</p>
<p>But his main thesis there is that if things remain calm and the economy is stable, Obama could be a popular and successful president.  I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s likely, given the frequent and profound instabilities that keep popping up everywhere.</p>
<p>Thanks for that new (to me) blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t seen too much coverage of it, but Obama is now &quot;refining&quot; his position on abortion.

http://scottishright.squarespace.com/journal/2008/7/6/obama-now-refining-his-position-on-abortion.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I haven&#8217;t seen too much coverage of it, but Obama is now &#8220;refining&#8221; his position on abortion.</p>
<p><a href="http://scottishright.squarespace.com/journal/2008/7/6/obama-now-refining-his-position-on-abortion.html" rel="nofollow">http://scottishright.squarespace.com/journal/2008/7/6/obama-now-refining-his-position-on-abortion.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
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		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 00:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike&#039;s America, #12

Re: Judicial watch.

Yeah, I checked it out, but something didn&#039;t smell quite right about them.  I mean, they listed Libby, even though his conviction was only due to the judge depriving him of vital testimony in his defense and because of Russert&#039;s questionable testimony.  Then they editorialized on against Bush&#039;s lame half-baked pardon of Libby.  It&#039;s nice to see all those Dems on the list, but if anything is wrong with the list, I don&#039;t feel comfortable using it.  Any thoughts?

p.s., it&#039;s like they don&#039;t mind throwing those other Dems under the bus as long as they can still say, &quot;but look at how Bush is connected.&quot;  I could be wrong, but that&#039;s how it strikes me initially.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Mike&#8217;s America, #12</p>
<p>Re: Judicial watch.</p>
<p>Yeah, I checked it out, but something didn&#8217;t smell quite right about them.  I mean, they listed Libby, even though his conviction was only due to the judge depriving him of vital testimony in his defense and because of Russert&#8217;s questionable testimony.  Then they editorialized on against Bush&#8217;s lame half-baked pardon of Libby.  It&#8217;s nice to see all those Dems on the list, but if anything is wrong with the list, I don&#8217;t feel comfortable using it.  Any thoughts?</p>
<p>p.s., it&#8217;s like they don&#8217;t mind throwing those other Dems under the bus as long as they can still say, &#8220;but look at how Bush is connected.&#8221;  I could be wrong, but that&#8217;s how it strikes me initially.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 00:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug &quot;differs&quot;? I am shocked! Nice job of refuting him Yonason.

And here&#039;s the judicial watch list Rachel referenced:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/judicial-watch-announces-list-washington-s-ten-most-wanted-corrupt-politicians-2007</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Doug &#8220;differs&#8221;? I am shocked! Nice job of refuting him Yonason.</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s the judicial watch list Rachel referenced:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.judicialwatch.org/judicial-watch-announces-list-washington-s-ten-most-wanted-corrupt-politicians-2007" rel="nofollow">http://www.judicialwatch.org/judicial-watch-announces-list-washington-s-ten-most-wanted-corrupt-politicians-2007</a></p>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
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		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/07/the_daily_bricabrac_flippity_f_1.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;As I have always said, this is my LAST update&lt;/a&gt;, 

     ...(until my next which will be the first of many unless otherwise notified, or I change my mind and decide IT&#039;S the last, ...for the time being, ...but don&#039;t worry I will keep you informed of EXACTLY what I say as I am saying it, which you can then forget immediately because I would never lie to you, and I will tell you what I did say before anyway, so you don&#039;t even need to bother to remember and certainly don&#039;t have to keep checking, ....and if you do keep checking then you are paranoid psychotic in desperate need of medication and therapy which will be provided to you free of charge, and for only a fraction of what we took from you in taxes for it, so just remember this, that no matter what result you get when you check my veracity, you are wrong, unless of course it&#039;s that you somehow get the impression that I can be trusted, which I then enthusiastically endorse, even though I have no idea how you came to that conclusion, because it&#039;s unimportant as long as you never ever question anything I say or do, better yet, forget even that, because I will tell you everything you need to know, so, um, just, uh, ok then, maybe remember just that, but no more, unless I say so, or unless I remind you later I didn&#039;t tell you to do so, and, um, uhh, so hope for change cause that&#039;s what I&#039;m all about, and don&#039;t either forget or remember that and we&#039;ll get along fine, unless we don&#039;t, which is your fault anyway, you see, because I say so, and I should know, like I&#039;ve told you already .... rhubarb..rhubarb..rhubarb..rhubarb...)


hmm, no wonder the Islamofascists like him, he&#039;s as consistent as they are!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><a href="http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/07/the_daily_bricabrac_flippity_f_1.php" rel="nofollow">As I have always said, this is my LAST update</a>, </p>
<p>     &#8230;(until my next which will be the first of many unless otherwise notified, or I change my mind and decide IT&#8217;S the last, &#8230;for the time being, &#8230;but don&#8217;t worry I will keep you informed of EXACTLY what I say as I am saying it, which you can then forget immediately because I would never lie to you, and I will tell you what I did say before anyway, so you don&#8217;t even need to bother to remember and certainly don&#8217;t have to keep checking, &#8230;.and if you do keep checking then you are paranoid psychotic in desperate need of medication and therapy which will be provided to you free of charge, and for only a fraction of what we took from you in taxes for it, so just remember this, that no matter what result you get when you check my veracity, you are wrong, unless of course it&#8217;s that you somehow get the impression that I can be trusted, which I then enthusiastically endorse, even though I have no idea how you came to that conclusion, because it&#8217;s unimportant as long as you never ever question anything I say or do, better yet, forget even that, because I will tell you everything you need to know, so, um, just, uh, ok then, maybe remember just that, but no more, unless I say so, or unless I remind you later I didn&#8217;t tell you to do so, and, um, uhh, so hope for change cause that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m all about, and don&#8217;t either forget or remember that and we&#8217;ll get along fine, unless we don&#8217;t, which is your fault anyway, you see, because I say so, and I should know, like I&#8217;ve told you already &#8230;. rhubarb..rhubarb..rhubarb..rhubarb&#8230;)</p>
<p>hmm, no wonder the Islamofascists like him, he&#8217;s as consistent as they are!</p>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
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		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/07/rnc-highlights-obamas-iraq-troubles.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LAST UPDATE ON FLIP FLOPS&lt;/A&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: suek</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Obama wins in November, the tawdry truth will soon be known. If he is defeated in November, His legend will never die.&gt;&gt;

You may be right, but it&#039;s not worth it to find out!  My guess is that if he&#039;s defeated in November, he&#039;ll be back.  He&#039;s young yet...lots of time yet.  Darn it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&gt;&gt;Obama wins in November, the tawdry truth will soon be known. If he is defeated in November, His legend will never die.&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>You may be right, but it&#8217;s not worth it to find out!  My guess is that if he&#8217;s defeated in November, he&#8217;ll be back.  He&#8217;s young yet&#8230;lots of time yet.  Darn it.</p>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
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		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>differing doug, a doug too long, ...same old same old doug #6

He uses the Washington Pest to &quot;prove&quot; his points but Wapo can fipflop as good as Obie can.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/24/AR2008022402094.html

He even brings &quot;proof&quot; from Obama&#039;s book, MeinKampf-the comic book.
http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/AnnCoulter/2008/04/03/obamas_dimestore_mein_kampf
...that Obie is consistent.  I&#039;d be careful telling people to look at that crud, doug.  They might just find out what a  consistently racist fruitcake he really is.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7741974245346660261

And then there&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/obama-camp-involved-in-product-placement-for-corporate-tax-dodger/#more-6356&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;taking both sides at the same time&lt;/a&gt; by pretending to take the popular (and morally correct) one, while actually enriching himself behind the backs of the rubes he is conning.
&lt;em&gt;&quot;The Democratic Party has announced that Barack Obama, who claims he will close corporate tax loopholes to pay for other proposals, will not accept the party’s presidential nomination at the site where the rest of the party’s convention is being held, but at a separate location: one whose name has been bought — or at least partially paid for — by a corporation that takes advantage of just such a tax dodge.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Furthermore, your criticism of inaccuracies aren&#039;t valid, because &lt;b&gt;exaggerations in pointing out Obama&#039;s lies are inevitable when his lies are so many and &lt;a href=&quot;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9197160211956054241&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;so perverse&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>differing doug, a doug too long, &#8230;same old same old doug #6</p>
<p>He uses the Washington Pest to &#8220;prove&#8221; his points but Wapo can fipflop as good as Obie can.<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/24/AR2008022402094.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/24/AR2008022402094.html</a></p>
<p>He even brings &#8220;proof&#8221; from Obama&#8217;s book, MeinKampf-the comic book.<br />
<a href="http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/AnnCoulter/2008/04/03/obamas_dimestore_mein_kampf" rel="nofollow">http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/AnnCoulter/2008/04/03/obamas_dimestore_mein_kampf</a><br />
&#8230;that Obie is consistent.  I&#8217;d be careful telling people to look at that crud, doug.  They might just find out what a  consistently racist fruitcake he really is.<br />
<a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7741974245346660261" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7741974245346660261</a></p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s <a href="http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/obama-camp-involved-in-product-placement-for-corporate-tax-dodger/#more-6356" rel="nofollow">taking both sides at the same time</a> by pretending to take the popular (and morally correct) one, while actually enriching himself behind the backs of the rubes he is conning.<br />
<em>&#8220;The Democratic Party has announced that Barack Obama, who claims he will close corporate tax loopholes to pay for other proposals, will not accept the party’s presidential nomination at the site where the rest of the party’s convention is being held, but at a separate location: one whose name has been bought — or at least partially paid for — by a corporation that takes advantage of just such a tax dodge.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Furthermore, your criticism of inaccuracies aren&#8217;t valid, because <b>exaggerations in pointing out Obama&#8217;s lies are inevitable when his lies are so many and <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9197160211956054241" rel="nofollow">so perverse</a></b>.</p>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
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		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>arhooley - #4

I think you are onto something.  

I&#039;ve been thinking for a while now that Obie doesn&#039;t have to win in order to &quot;win.&quot;  In fact, I think he could be more &quot;victorious&quot; if he looses, which does NOT mean I think he should become president.  What I do think is that just having him as a part of the process, no matter who is elected in November, has been a loss for America which it will take a long time to recover from.

Interesting website.  I think you have her pegged as one of the  worst motivational speakers in the history of the world.  She makes Morticia Adams daughter Wednesday look like a perky high school cheerleader.  And Wednesday&#039;s sense of humor is better, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>arhooley &#8211; #4</p>
<p>I think you are onto something.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking for a while now that Obie doesn&#8217;t have to win in order to &#8220;win.&#8221;  In fact, I think he could be more &#8220;victorious&#8221; if he looses, which does NOT mean I think he should become president.  What I do think is that just having him as a part of the process, no matter who is elected in November, has been a loss for America which it will take a long time to recover from.</p>
<p>Interesting website.  I think you have her pegged as one of the  worst motivational speakers in the history of the world.  She makes Morticia Adams daughter Wednesday look like a perky high school cheerleader.  And Wednesday&#8217;s sense of humor is better, too.</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I differ.

This piece reaches too far to show Obama is &#039;lurching with abandon&#039;--even the title is hyperbolic. Furthermore, in some cases, it&#039;s simply inaccurate. 

For example, if you chanced to read the AP report last week, you’d get the impression that Obama’s “faith-based initiative” is just like Bush’s. Unfortunately, Herbert didn’t read the actual speech, or he would have known that this simply isn’t true. This isn’t an example of Obama “lurching” towards Bush’s position; it’s an example of the opposite:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/03/AR2008070302453.html

Bob Herbert tells us Obama  changed course on supporting a state’s right to execute child rapists. The fact is Obama has been consistent on this issue, and even wrote about his position in his book. Obama has not changed his position here, it&#039;s the same now as it was before:
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/06/26/in-support-of-obama-s-death-penatly-stand.aspx

Herbert even mentions, in his indictment of Obama “mov[ing] away from progressive issues,” that Obama might be “doing the Obama two-step” on his withdrawal policy on Iraq. the reality is Obama’s position is exactly the same as it was before. (Wordsmith was pretty close to the bullseye in his piece here at FAs, but in the end was ensnared in the McCain campaign&#039;s web they spun out and the Huffington Posts reflex-action piece.)  To see where Obama stands all one needs to do is go to his website and see if the facts (&#039;Issues&#039; section on Iraq) have changed, they haven&#039;t. Additionally, to not permit anyone --especially a presidential candidate-- flexibility in forming their foreign policy around their core &#039;issues&#039; is simply &#039;gaming the table.&#039; If you want contextual flexibility for McCain&#039;s 100 years in Iraq, then give Obama the same courtesy. 

Therefore, Herbert, who does tend to &#039;punch up&#039; his rhetoric, has also done so here, plus veered off course a bit while riding on the MSM horse that Obama&#039;s selling out to the center-- While it makes a good headline,  Obama is too smart not to be aware of this own talk. He&#039;s not moving &quot;away from progressive issues&quot;  ...just ask any conservative blog or those here at FAs --they know!! 

As a footnote to all this, if McCain doesn&#039;t get in gear quickly--he&#039;s already wasted  much time-- he&#039;ll find Obama&#039;s reach for that 10-15% of the center will have already been probed much deeper than he has time or money to counter. Honestly, his campaign is just a notch above slow motion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I differ.</p>
<p>This piece reaches too far to show Obama is &#8216;lurching with abandon&#8217;&#8211;even the title is hyperbolic. Furthermore, in some cases, it&#8217;s simply inaccurate. </p>
<p>For example, if you chanced to read the AP report last week, you’d get the impression that Obama’s “faith-based initiative” is just like Bush’s. Unfortunately, Herbert didn’t read the actual speech, or he would have known that this simply isn’t true. This isn’t an example of Obama “lurching” towards Bush’s position; it’s an example of the opposite:<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/03/AR2008070302453.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/03/AR2008070302453.html</a></p>
<p>Bob Herbert tells us Obama  changed course on supporting a state’s right to execute child rapists. The fact is Obama has been consistent on this issue, and even wrote about his position in his book. Obama has not changed his position here, it&#8217;s the same now as it was before:<br />
<a href="http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/06/26/in-support-of-obama-s-death-penatly-stand.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/06/26/in-support-of-obama-s-death-penatly-stand.aspx</a></p>
<p>Herbert even mentions, in his indictment of Obama “mov[ing] away from progressive issues,” that Obama might be “doing the Obama two-step” on his withdrawal policy on Iraq. the reality is Obama’s position is exactly the same as it was before. (Wordsmith was pretty close to the bullseye in his piece here at FAs, but in the end was ensnared in the McCain campaign&#8217;s web they spun out and the Huffington Posts reflex-action piece.)  To see where Obama stands all one needs to do is go to his website and see if the facts (&#8216;Issues&#8217; section on Iraq) have changed, they haven&#8217;t. Additionally, to not permit anyone &#8211;especially a presidential candidate&#8211; flexibility in forming their foreign policy around their core &#8216;issues&#8217; is simply &#8216;gaming the table.&#8217; If you want contextual flexibility for McCain&#8217;s 100 years in Iraq, then give Obama the same courtesy. </p>
<p>Therefore, Herbert, who does tend to &#8216;punch up&#8217; his rhetoric, has also done so here, plus veered off course a bit while riding on the MSM horse that Obama&#8217;s selling out to the center&#8211; While it makes a good headline,  Obama is too smart not to be aware of this own talk. He&#8217;s not moving &#8220;away from progressive issues&#8221;  &#8230;just ask any conservative blog or those here at FAs &#8211;they know!! </p>
<p>As a footnote to all this, if McCain doesn&#8217;t get in gear quickly&#8211;he&#8217;s already wasted  much time&#8211; he&#8217;ll find Obama&#8217;s reach for that 10-15% of the center will have already been probed much deeper than he has time or money to counter. Honestly, his campaign is just a notch above slow motion.</p>
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