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	<title>Comments on: Environmentalists Approve Offshore Drilling&#8230; For a Price!</title>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/06/27/environmentalists-approve-offshore-drilling-for-a-price/#comment-90403</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Archie: bbartlog is a recovering Ron Paul supporter. Reality hasn&#039;t always been his friend.</description>
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		<title>By: Archie Debunker</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/06/27/environmentalists-approve-offshore-drilling-for-a-price/#comment-90345</link>
		<dc:creator>Archie Debunker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Not my true name]

Hey, bbartlog, the oil companies already pay plenty:

Leases 
Exploration costs
EIRs - not cheap
Local Property taxes
Costs of drilling - very expensive
Onshore processing
Pipelines -- can&#039;t use tankers, no no no no noooo!
Refineries

If you tried the GOO strategy yourself, you&#039;d be in jail for extortion.
I knew some of these Get Oil Out folks back in the day.
They are exactly who you&#039;d think they would be....magical thinkers, all the way.</description>
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<p>Hey, bbartlog, the oil companies already pay plenty:</p>
<p>Leases<br />
Exploration costs<br />
EIRs &#8211; not cheap<br />
Local Property taxes<br />
Costs of drilling &#8211; very expensive<br />
Onshore processing<br />
Pipelines &#8212; can&#8217;t use tankers, no no no no noooo!<br />
Refineries</p>
<p>If you tried the GOO strategy yourself, you&#8217;d be in jail for extortion.<br />
I knew some of these Get Oil Out folks back in the day.<br />
They are exactly who you&#8217;d think they would be&#8230;.magical thinkers, all the way.</p>
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		<title>By: bigpapa</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/06/27/environmentalists-approve-offshore-drilling-for-a-price/#comment-90296</link>
		<dc:creator>bigpapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Rovin,
I think the envrios do have a clue that the costs will be passed on but they don&#039;t care or they see it as fitting that we should pay more..
They are the new commies...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Hey Rovin,<br />
I think the envrios do have a clue that the costs will be passed on but they don&#8217;t care or they see it as fitting that we should pay more..<br />
They are the new commies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bbartlog</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/06/27/environmentalists-approve-offshore-drilling-for-a-price/#comment-90275</link>
		<dc:creator>bbartlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think this is such a bad thing. If a company is going to make some use of public resources (like offshore waters) then having them pay for the privilege in some fashion makes sense. In this case the environmentalists seem to have been willing to acknowledge the need for tradeoffs instead of taking a totally uncompromising line.
Of course, some of the specific things they asked for are pretty questionable, but on balance this is still a decent result. And yes of course the costs get passed on to the consumer. If there are environmental costs associated with drilling, they *should* get passed on to the consumer as best as it can be managed and not just to whoever happens to live near the drill site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I don&#8217;t think this is such a bad thing. If a company is going to make some use of public resources (like offshore waters) then having them pay for the privilege in some fashion makes sense. In this case the environmentalists seem to have been willing to acknowledge the need for tradeoffs instead of taking a totally uncompromising line.<br />
Of course, some of the specific things they asked for are pretty questionable, but on balance this is still a decent result. And yes of course the costs get passed on to the consumer. If there are environmental costs associated with drilling, they *should* get passed on to the consumer as best as it can be managed and not just to whoever happens to live near the drill site.</p>
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		<title>By: Rovin</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/06/27/environmentalists-approve-offshore-drilling-for-a-price/#comment-90201</link>
		<dc:creator>Rovin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the lawers for the oil company&#039;s have figured out that this is the least expensive way to proceed with the exploration and extraction, the moronic inviro&#039;s have no clue that these additional cost will be passed on to the consumers.  


The problem is the environmental community have attained far too much power by bringing suits to any company knowing full well that the liberal judges will rubber stamp everything.  Bush should declare that for the next ten years U.S oil extraction is a national security issue and therefor oil companies can proceed with expediency, (just like he did with the southern border fence).

The Santa Barbara oil spill, Exxon Vadez, and Three Mile Island were serious disasters that needed to be addressed and corrected, but why this nation let the invironmentalist dictate our energy policies for the past thirty years has been a sinful strangle-hold on the developement of resources that could have left us far less dependent on foreign subsidies.  Under the current economic financial crisis this nation is facing, it&#039;s time they got their wings clipped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>While the lawers for the oil company&#8217;s have figured out that this is the least expensive way to proceed with the exploration and extraction, the moronic inviro&#8217;s have no clue that these additional cost will be passed on to the consumers.  </p>
<p>The problem is the environmental community have attained far too much power by bringing suits to any company knowing full well that the liberal judges will rubber stamp everything.  Bush should declare that for the next ten years U.S oil extraction is a national security issue and therefor oil companies can proceed with expediency, (just like he did with the southern border fence).</p>
<p>The Santa Barbara oil spill, Exxon Vadez, and Three Mile Island were serious disasters that needed to be addressed and corrected, but why this nation let the invironmentalist dictate our energy policies for the past thirty years has been a sinful strangle-hold on the developement of resources that could have left us far less dependent on foreign subsidies.  Under the current economic financial crisis this nation is facing, it&#8217;s time they got their wings clipped.</p>
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