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	<title>Comments on: Obama World: The Government Not American Ingenuity Will Solve The Gas Crisis [Reader Post]</title>
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		<title>By: american ingenuity</title>
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		<dc:creator>american ingenuity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] McCain??s proposal of a 300 million dollar prize for the development of a next generation car batthttp://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/25/obama-world-the-government-not-american-ingenuity-will-solve-...American IngenuityAmerican ingenuity is passionate about developing unique consumer products. It [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Harry Bergeron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Bergeron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain is barking at the moon if he thinks there will be some magical breathrough to the battery equivalent of the fabled 100-mpg carburator.  Modern batteries are very well developed--I get regular updates from a friend in an internationally-known laboratory.

Your laptop has the best batteries there are, considering cost vs. performance. You already know how expensive they are and how short their lives are.  Major improvement will be in the form of a fuel cell using butane or propane -- fossil fuels!!!

Go nukes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>McCain is barking at the moon if he thinks there will be some magical breathrough to the battery equivalent of the fabled 100-mpg carburator.  Modern batteries are very well developed&#8211;I get regular updates from a friend in an internationally-known laboratory.</p>
<p>Your laptop has the best batteries there are, considering cost vs. performance. You already know how expensive they are and how short their lives are.  Major improvement will be in the form of a fuel cell using butane or propane &#8212; fossil fuels!!!</p>
<p>Go nukes!</p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; ABC &#38; Washington Post Reporters Alter Obama Speech To Cover Gaffe [Reader Post]</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; ABC &#38; Washington Post Reporters Alter Obama Speech To Cover Gaffe [Reader Post]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 01:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of American Ingenuity over the past 232 years, as reported in as reported at PDOP - Obama World: Government Not American Ingenuity Will Solve The Gas Crisis. More importantly however is the fact that news organizations across the country conveniently [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Words are all we&#8217;ve got, sometimes, Mac Kane&#8230; &#171; Valentine Bonnaire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Words are all we&#8217;ve got, sometimes, Mac Kane&#8230; &#171; Valentine Bonnaire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My cousin developed an alternative engine system that he installed in his classic &#039;66 Mustang. He thinks this &quot;contest&quot; is long overdue. He and his friends, those who have been car nuts since grade school, have all been working on alternative ways to power engines for years and he tells me that there are lots of good ideas and workable theories that lack only funding for testing and production. 

My cousin is a guy who could have attended any college in this country, but chose a different route in life after winning a major contest for high school students that the major automobile manufacturers have each year to find the best budding automotive engineers. His win gave him a job and an education in the automotive engineering field, this was supplemented with a 3 year stint in the Coast Guard and intensive training in diesel engines. He now owns his own company and is considered one of the country&#039;s experts in diesel and is highly sought after by companies that depend on diesel technology. He lives and breathes engines. If anyone can come up with workable, affordable alternatives, I believe he and his partners can. 

When he was still in high school, he complained that his Mom was such a health nut, no fried foods, that she was limiting his experiments. He gathered coffee cans and distributed them to all the neighbors and asked them to save all their used oil/grease for him, which he then used to experiment with different types of used oils that would power his engines that lined their garage. That was more than 25 years ago. He has also worked on experimental steam driven auto engines and solar as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>My cousin developed an alternative engine system that he installed in his classic &#8217;66 Mustang. He thinks this &#8220;contest&#8221; is long overdue. He and his friends, those who have been car nuts since grade school, have all been working on alternative ways to power engines for years and he tells me that there are lots of good ideas and workable theories that lack only funding for testing and production. </p>
<p>My cousin is a guy who could have attended any college in this country, but chose a different route in life after winning a major contest for high school students that the major automobile manufacturers have each year to find the best budding automotive engineers. His win gave him a job and an education in the automotive engineering field, this was supplemented with a 3 year stint in the Coast Guard and intensive training in diesel engines. He now owns his own company and is considered one of the country&#8217;s experts in diesel and is highly sought after by companies that depend on diesel technology. He lives and breathes engines. If anyone can come up with workable, affordable alternatives, I believe he and his partners can. </p>
<p>When he was still in high school, he complained that his Mom was such a health nut, no fried foods, that she was limiting his experiments. He gathered coffee cans and distributed them to all the neighbors and asked them to save all their used oil/grease for him, which he then used to experiment with different types of used oils that would power his engines that lined their garage. That was more than 25 years ago. He has also worked on experimental steam driven auto engines and solar as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Uddercha0s</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uddercha0s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Technically, the Internet, or the path gateways, is a US federal government creation thru ARPNET and the NSF&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You were heading down the same path that I was MataH. I wonder if Obama scoffs at the contests and money rewards that DARPA initiates. The most recent can be read about here &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.darpa.mil/grandchallenge/index.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The DARPA Urban Challenge&lt;/a&gt; The top 3 prizes winners took home a combined $3.5 million.

Very good write up, by the way. Do you ever sleep?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>Technically, the Internet, or the path gateways, is a US federal government creation thru ARPNET and the NSF</p></blockquote>
<p>You were heading down the same path that I was MataH. I wonder if Obama scoffs at the contests and money rewards that DARPA initiates. The most recent can be read about here <a href="http://www.darpa.mil/grandchallenge/index.asp" rel="nofollow">The DARPA Urban Challenge</a> The top 3 prizes winners took home a combined $3.5 million.</p>
<p>Very good write up, by the way. Do you ever sleep?</p>
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		<title>By: stix1972</title>
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		<dc:creator>stix1972</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not think that McCain is going to just give $300,000, I thought hewould give it away as a tax inventive on the compay that produces this magical battery.  It will take more than 8 years for this to be done most likely, so he will not be giving away anything.



I agree with the whole premise of this article though.  It is the common man in the basement or in his own laboratory that invent things.  Bill Gates and Steve Jobs pretty much invented the home computer industry from a garage. Xrays were found by mistake in a lab.   It is people, not governments that produce things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I do not think that McCain is going to just give $300,000, I thought hewould give it away as a tax inventive on the compay that produces this magical battery.  It will take more than 8 years for this to be done most likely, so he will not be giving away anything.</p>
<p>I agree with the whole premise of this article though.  It is the common man in the basement or in his own laboratory that invent things.  Bill Gates and Steve Jobs pretty much invented the home computer industry from a garage. Xrays were found by mistake in a lab.   It is people, not governments that produce things.</p>
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		<title>By: NEWPUPPYDIXIE</title>
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		<dc:creator>NEWPUPPYDIXIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stevend:  You&#039;re quite right. But McCain, like Barry Hussein, believes that Big Brother gives and Big Brother takes away. An award sponsored by BB makes it far more &quot;official&quot;. Why, the private sector might foul things up. And of course, McCain&#039;s government reward would naturally mean that this ground breaking battery would belong to...guess who (or what)...why, the govt!! That way we could save Maxine Watters the otherwise necessary step of confiscating the thing for &quot;the greater good&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Stevend:  You&#8217;re quite right. But McCain, like Barry Hussein, believes that Big Brother gives and Big Brother takes away. An award sponsored by BB makes it far more &#8220;official&#8221;. Why, the private sector might foul things up. And of course, McCain&#8217;s government reward would naturally mean that this ground breaking battery would belong to&#8230;guess who (or what)&#8230;why, the govt!! That way we could save Maxine Watters the otherwise necessary step of confiscating the thing for &#8220;the greater good&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Stevend</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stevend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m no Obama fan, but the McCain $300M idea is just stupid.  I don&#039;t want the government doing anything like that, either.

If someone invents a great new energy source, that person will make tons of money from their inventiveness.  We don&#039;t need washington deciding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I&#8217;m no Obama fan, but the McCain $300M idea is just stupid.  I don&#8217;t want the government doing anything like that, either.</p>
<p>If someone invents a great new energy source, that person will make tons of money from their inventiveness.  We don&#8217;t need washington deciding.</p>
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		<title>By: cv</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/06/25/obama-world-the-government-not-american-ingenuity-will-solve-the-gas-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-89298</link>
		<dc:creator>cv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BHO is an idiot, he will be a bigger disaster than Carter.</description>
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