Dave,

You’re still draggin’ this thing around?

I thought you had put it aside for something new.

Guess I was wrong.

I’ll attempt to address my position on this one more time since you are choosing to misrepresent what I said on the matter at the time.

Scrapiron’s post:

“Credit with his brother Islamist, no doubt.
I don’t know why we males are worried about Islam. Just think, see a woman on the street and want her, beat the he** out of her, rape her and they will put her in jail or stone her to death. See a female you don’t like, get a pair of scissors and clip her clit. She becomes nothing more than a Burka covered receptacle for man’s pleasure, well something only slightly ahead of rosie red palm. but a receptacle anyway.”
(Obama: I Will Have Credibility With Muslim World [Reader Post] – June 12)

Your response:

Scrapiron

Hey, buddy you are really a class act. Are you sure you are talking about the Muslim male’s mindset or your own fantasies?

My response to you:

David,

What was that response of yours you left here not too long ago….

Hmmmm….

Something about “total flame” and “all heat, no light”.

Something like that.

Scrapiron makes a valid point about Sharia and the cultures that exist under its’ oppression.

Of course, you chose not to address the crux of his post, opting to go with snappy rejoinder instead.

I know that you are better than that.

You again:

I’m sorry, Aye Chi, maybe I missed the fact that this was a thread about living under Sharia law.
Which is oppressive. I wouldn’t want to live in an America run by John Hagee. Read “The Handmaid’s Tale” some time.

I thought the orginal post was about Barrack Obama’s potential appeal to the 1.3 Muslims in the world. What percentage of them live under Sharia law? Scrapiron’s post was deliberately as offensive of he could make it. Notice he talks about Islam, not Wahibism or the imposition of Sharia law. Not all Muslims rape women and beat the hell out of them or cut their clits off. Yes that happens and it’s barbaric.

And notice at the beginning he suggests that Obama is an Islamist. Where is the evidence for that? It’s right up there with Dan’s comment on another thread suggesting that Obama will force all Americans to convert to Islam and may cut off the heads of those who don’t. If I want to listen to that kind of raving I can go on a white supremacist or neo-Nazi website. I realize I am effectively a guest on this blog, but beyond the pale is beyond the pale. Respectfully, you are attempting to defend the indefensible.

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Then we come to what you had to say about me on this thread RE the above exchange:

Oh, BTW, Aye Chi defended the piece of disgusting bigotry below that accuses all Muslim men of the atrocities committed by certain Muslims.

First, please show me where Scrapiron said “all Muslim men”.

Where is it? I’ll wait for you to locate it.

No luck? That’s because it’s not there. He didn’t write it.

Second, show me where I defended “disgusting bigotry”.

No luck there either, eh? That’s because that didn’t happen either.

You admit that Scrapiron’s point is valid here:

Yes that happens and it’s barbaric.

And you agreed with my point here:

Not all Muslims rape women and beat the hell out of them or cut their clits off.

I was very specific in my comments to point out that Sharia brings all sorts of misery to the lives of Muslim women around the world.

You’re choosing to find something to be offended over.

It’s almost as if you’re searching it out.

Further, once you find that delicious morsel you seek, you choose to continue to be offended and carry that baggage around with you from thread to another as you post. You’re still stewing over Dan’s beheading comment.

I normally find you to be well spoken, clear headed, and even tempered in both your posts and your responses to others. Wrong more often than not, but civil none the less.

This particular exchange doesn’t fit with that pattern. I’m not sure exactly what part of it was the burr under your saddle but it obviously has stuck with you.

I truly don’t think that the original remarks by Scrapiron were intended as bigotry. I didn’t see them that way then, nor do I now with the benefit of the passage of time but your mileage may vary.

You can be confident that I would have spoken up quickly if I had perceived it in a negative way but life is too short to create conflict and discontent where it is not needed.

In fact, I chose not to be offended by this comment of yours:

I wouldn’t want to live in an America run by John Hagee. Read “The Handmaid’s Tale” some time.

That could easily be perceived as anti-Christian bigotry by someone who was searching it out.

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I have wondered why it is that a millionaire has a poor grandmother living in a village in Africa? Has she refused all aid from “The Chosen One?” Has he even offered any? Do you suppose she’d rather be a poor person in Africa than a well-cared-for granny in America? Just curious. I wouldn’t let either of MY grandmothers, were the alive, stay in that situation, provided I had enough resources to CHANGE it.

This guy is an empty pair of boxer shorts with no front flap. Anyone who would even consider voting for this socialist is completely devoid of anything resembling a thought process.

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I checked out the link. I made it about two pages in. It appears to be nothing less than a pure hate-site, along the lines of anything I have seen from the KKK or other violence prone groups. It also includes death threats and, in my opinion, this site should not harbor shuch links.

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I wonder if he will have so much credibility with muslim world after Wed. June 18th:
Press Conference Announcement for Mr. Larry Sinclair

Reference: Sexual Activity and Crack Cocaine Drug Use with Senator Obama
Time: 3:00 PM
Place: National Press Club-See Announcement Below and please verify schedule at the NPC website for June 18, 2008
Contact Information Email: lws022737@hotmail.com. or
Montgomery Sibley
866-855-4708
mbsibley@earthlink.net

NOTE: Please email Mr. Sinclair with your name and number for any additional information or contact his website at http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/.

Additionally, the conference room is available for up to 40 reporters and if you would like to be added to a list for the press conference, contact Mr. Sinclair as soon as possible as it is first come, first serve with limited seating.

National Press Club
529 14th St. NW, 13th Floor – Washington, DC 20045
202-662-7500

Wednesday, June 18, 2008
3:00 PM
Lisagor Room

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BTW, that’s 1.3 billion Muslims. I need to proofread my posts better

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Ah yes….

The Conservatives trying to resurect, again, the “Barak Obama is a Muslim” lie that failed last year when The Washington Times and FoxNews floated it.

It is safe to assume that Conservatives will repeat this lie every four or five weeks, through the election, in hopes some of the lie will be believed.

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I’m sorry, Aye Chi, maybe I missed the fact that this was a thread about living under Sharia law.
Which is oppressive. I wouldn’t want to live in an America run by John Hagee. Read “The Handmaid’s Tale” some time.

I thought the orginal post was about Barrack Obama’s potential appeal to the 1.3 Muslims in the world. What percentage of them live under Sharia law? Scrapiron’s post was deliberately as offensive of he could make it. Notice he talks about Islam, not Wahibism or the imposition of Sharia law. Not all Muslims rape women and beat the hell out of them or cut their clits off. Yes that happens and it’s barbaric.

And notice at the beginning he suggests that Obama is an Islamist. Where is the evidence for that? It’s right up there with Dan’s comment on another thread suggesting that Obama will force all Americans to convert to Islam and may cut off the heads of those who don’t. If I want to listen to that kind of raving I can go on a white supremacist or neo-Nazi website. I realize I am effectively a guest on this blog, but beyond the pale is beyond the pale. Respectfully, you are attempting to defend the indefensible.

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David,

What was that response of yours you left here not too long ago….

Hmmmm….

Something about “total flame” and “all heat, no light”.

Something like that.

Scrapiron makes a valid point about Sharia and the cultures that exist under its’ oppression.

Of course, you chose not to address the crux of his post, opting to go with snappy rejoinder instead.

I know that you are better than that.

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Scrapiron

Hey, buddy you are really a class act. Are you sure you are talking about the Muslim male’s mindset or your own fantasies?

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Credit with his brother Islamist, no doubt.

I don’t know why we males are worried about Islam. Just think, see a woman on the street and want her, beat the he** out of her, rape her and they will put her in jail or stone her to death. See a female you don’t like, get a pair of scissors and clip her clit. She becomes nothing more than a Burka covered receptacle for man’s pleasure, well something only slightly ahead of rosie red palm. but a receptacle anyway.

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