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	<title>Comments on: The McClellan Fiasco Continues &#8211; Update: Bob Dole Unloads On Scott &#8211; Update: Powerline On &#8220;The Scales Fell From My Eyes&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/30/the-mcclennan-fiasco-continues/#comment-85768</link>
		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FOIA,

You may be right.

I hear that the guy from the grassy knoll has a lot of time on his hands these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>FOIA,</p>
<p>You may be right.</p>
<p>I hear that the guy from the grassy knoll has a lot of time on his hands these days.</p>
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		<title>By: FreedomOfInformationAct</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/30/the-mcclennan-fiasco-continues/#comment-85667</link>
		<dc:creator>FreedomOfInformationAct</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 04:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is my humble belief that Tim Russert was murdered to send a message to Scott McClellan about testifying in front of Congress about the Plame Leak Case and the exposed Bush White House justification fabricated in the run up to the Iraq Invasion?

but don&#039;t take my word for it, do your own investigation and come to your own conclusions.

news
http://news.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient&amp;hl=en&amp;ned=us&amp;q=Tim+Russert+plame+leak

blogs
http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&amp;client=news&amp;scoring=d&amp;q=Tim+Russert+plame+leak+murdered

web
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;client=news&amp;q=Tim%20Russert%20plame%20leak%20murdered&amp;sa=N&amp;tab=bw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>It is my humble belief that Tim Russert was murdered to send a message to Scott McClellan about testifying in front of Congress about the Plame Leak Case and the exposed Bush White House justification fabricated in the run up to the Iraq Invasion?</p>
<p>but don&#8217;t take my word for it, do your own investigation and come to your own conclusions.</p>
<p>news<br />
<a href="http://news.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient&#038;hl=en&#038;ned=us&#038;q=Tim+Russert+plame+leak" rel="nofollow">http://news.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient&#038;hl=en&#038;ned=us&#038;q=Tim+Russert+plame+leak</a></p>
<p>blogs<br />
<a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&#038;client=news&#038;scoring=d&#038;q=Tim+Russert+plame+leak+murdered" rel="nofollow">http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&#038;client=news&#038;scoring=d&#038;q=Tim+Russert+plame+leak+murdered</a></p>
<p>web<br />
<a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#038;client=news&#038;q=Tim%20Russert%20plame%20leak%20murdered&#038;sa=N&#038;tab=bw" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#038;client=news&#038;q=Tim%20Russert%20plame%20leak%20murdered&#038;sa=N&#038;tab=bw</a></p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;Seriously&#8230;.what happened?&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/30/the-mcclennan-fiasco-continues/#comment-78733</link>
		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;Seriously&#8230;.what happened?&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 07:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] posts on Scott McClellan: The Rehabilitation Of A Bad Legacy The McClellan Fiasco [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fasternu426</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/30/the-mcclennan-fiasco-continues/#comment-78370</link>
		<dc:creator>Fasternu426</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 23:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;boy king who is currently squatting in our WH. &quot;

He was elected numbnuts, TWICE!</description>
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<p>He was elected numbnuts, TWICE!</p>
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		<title>By: Rovin</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/30/the-mcclennan-fiasco-continues/#comment-78367</link>
		<dc:creator>Rovin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 23:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Nixon lied----Journalist died!&lt;/strong&gt;
 
The profession of journalism evolved into a new level of degradation when &quot;deep throat&quot; began feeding two young reporters the inner workings of an administration. The feeding frenzy that followed produced a thinking that the media had as much power to manipulate the course of events as the power-brokers that were elected by hiding behind the first amendment. The &quot;my source must not be revealed&quot; became a valuable tool that allowed &quot;journalist&quot; to distort the facts to shape their own bias or agenda. Scott McClelland is just part of a long list of incarnated Jason Blairs that found a willing public, (and a disgruntled publisher) to line their pockets. Who would have thought 30 pieces of silver would have stood the test of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><strong>Nixon lied&#8212;-Journalist died!</strong></p>
<p>The profession of journalism evolved into a new level of degradation when &#8220;deep throat&#8221; began feeding two young reporters the inner workings of an administration. The feeding frenzy that followed produced a thinking that the media had as much power to manipulate the course of events as the power-brokers that were elected by hiding behind the first amendment. The &#8220;my source must not be revealed&#8221; became a valuable tool that allowed &#8220;journalist&#8221; to distort the facts to shape their own bias or agenda. Scott McClelland is just part of a long list of incarnated Jason Blairs that found a willing public, (and a disgruntled publisher) to line their pockets. Who would have thought 30 pieces of silver would have stood the test of time.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 23:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Refute what?  Scott provides no evidence....none, nada, zip.  Facts!  Again...no facts.  Its already been shown the guy would not, could not have been in any of these Iraq planning meetings or been privy to any of this stuff he alleges.

You lefties will eat it up as usual, as you did the whole Plame baloney but in the end it will go no where because its all bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Refute what?  Scott provides no evidence&#8230;.none, nada, zip.  Facts!  Again&#8230;no facts.  Its already been shown the guy would not, could not have been in any of these Iraq planning meetings or been privy to any of this stuff he alleges.</p>
<p>You lefties will eat it up as usual, as you did the whole Plame baloney but in the end it will go no where because its all bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 23:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the facts Dole should be refuting are?  McClellan was never in on any of the facts.

Fred, did you drop the just?  Just curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>And the facts Dole should be refuting are?  McClellan was never in on any of the facts.</p>
<p>Fred, did you drop the just?  Just curious.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 22:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Bob Dole has any credibility? No, he doesn&#039;t. Notice, however, that Dole doesn&#039;t refute any of McClellans claims of fact. Dole is mad that somebody is being dis-loyal to the boy king who is currently squatting in our WH. Notice the facts don&#039;t get argued, only the lack of loyalty - to a man, not to the country. Dole is a sick man. The country must prevail, not our grown up little boy Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>And Bob Dole has any credibility? No, he doesn&#8217;t. Notice, however, that Dole doesn&#8217;t refute any of McClellans claims of fact. Dole is mad that somebody is being dis-loyal to the boy king who is currently squatting in our WH. Notice the facts don&#8217;t get argued, only the lack of loyalty &#8211; to a man, not to the country. Dole is a sick man. The country must prevail, not our grown up little boy Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 21:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flopping Aces has excellent references in the archives that would help GOP08_DOA and Arthurstone if they are&#039;t allergic to facts regarding the run up to the war in Iraq.  I must caution them that they will find that it&#039;s more than a sentence and the information isn&#039;t just sarcastic jabs or worn out lefty talking points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Flopping Aces has excellent references in the archives that would help GOP08_DOA and Arthurstone if they are&#8217;t allergic to facts regarding the run up to the war in Iraq.  I must caution them that they will find that it&#8217;s more than a sentence and the information isn&#8217;t just sarcastic jabs or worn out lefty talking points.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/30/the-mcclennan-fiasco-continues/#comment-78223</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 21:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Word (#10): &lt;i&gt;&quot;... The problem is that Mr. McClellan presents no major new detail to support his conclusions about Iraq, or even about the Administration’s deliberations about how to sell the war. This may be because he was the deputy press secretary for domestic issues during the run-up to war and thus rarely attended war strategy sessions.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Even Ari Fleischer, the WH Press Secretary at the time, said this on Wednesday. Fleischer said there would be no reason for McClellan to be sitting in the room while the war deliberations were ongoing since his portfolio was for domestic issues. Fleischer even commented in the most sensitive, classified sessions, there would be no reason for himself (Fleischer) to be in the room either.

MClellan could have easily written a book and say his viewpoints changed over time, particularly with the Iraq War. That would&#039;ve been okay. There would be no quarrel over a changed mind. But, of course, nobody would buy it as an &quot;insider&quot; book.

As for talking to Rove and Libby with regard to the Plame matter, that was a violation of Bush&#039;s directive of no discussion of this topic among WH personnel during this investigation.

Can anyone say, &quot;Fabricated recollection of events.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Word (#10): <i>&#8220;&#8230; The problem is that Mr. McClellan presents no major new detail to support his conclusions about Iraq, or even about the Administration’s deliberations about how to sell the war. This may be because he was the deputy press secretary for domestic issues during the run-up to war and thus rarely attended war strategy sessions.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Even Ari Fleischer, the WH Press Secretary at the time, said this on Wednesday. Fleischer said there would be no reason for McClellan to be sitting in the room while the war deliberations were ongoing since his portfolio was for domestic issues. Fleischer even commented in the most sensitive, classified sessions, there would be no reason for himself (Fleischer) to be in the room either.</p>
<p>MClellan could have easily written a book and say his viewpoints changed over time, particularly with the Iraq War. That would&#8217;ve been okay. There would be no quarrel over a changed mind. But, of course, nobody would buy it as an &#8220;insider&#8221; book.</p>
<p>As for talking to Rove and Libby with regard to the Plame matter, that was a violation of Bush&#8217;s directive of no discussion of this topic among WH personnel during this investigation.</p>
<p>Can anyone say, &#8220;Fabricated recollection of events.&#8221;</p>
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