Comments on: Is the Islamic world rejecting al-Qaeda theology, thanks to the War in Iraq? http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/29/is-the-islamic-world-rejecting-al-qaeda-theology-thanks-to-the-war-in-iraq/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=is-the-islamic-world-rejecting-al-qaeda-theology-thanks-to-the-war-in-iraq Fri, 25 May 2012 18:40:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: “TODAY IS SEPTEMBER 12, 2001″ | Presstitution™ http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/29/is-the-islamic-world-rejecting-al-qaeda-theology-thanks-to-the-war-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-370085 “TODAY IS SEPTEMBER 12, 2001″ | Presstitution™ Tue, 01 May 2012 06:22:20 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=5033#comment-370085 [...] bonanza” for the jihadi movement, breathing new life into al-Qaeda…until they were exposed as the greatest killers of Muslims, this side of [...]

[...] bonanza” for the jihadi movement, breathing new life into al-Qaeda…until they were exposed as the greatest killers of Muslims, this side of [...]

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[...] bonanza” for the jihadi movement, breathing new life into al-Qaeda…until they were exposed as the greatest killers of Muslims, this side of [...]

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[...] If there is one thing the Iraq War did, it was to unite Iraqis and U.S./Coalition forces against the common threat of al Qaeda and expose their brand of Islam to the eyes of the Muslim world. [...]

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]]> By: Obama Administration: Dithering response to foreign enemies, rabid response to domestic opposition http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/29/is-the-islamic-world-rejecting-al-qaeda-theology-thanks-to-the-war-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-262125 Obama Administration: Dithering response to foreign enemies, rabid response to domestic opposition Wed, 06 Jan 2010 05:03:37 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=5033#comment-262125 [...] it is thanks to the war in Iraq that al Qaeda was exposed for the human aberration that they are, losing legitimacy in the eyes of many in the Islamic world- amongst both moderates and radicals, alike (they never [...]

[...] it is thanks to the war in Iraq that al Qaeda was exposed for the human aberration that they are, losing legitimacy in the eyes of many in the Islamic world- amongst both moderates and radicals, alike (they never [...]

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]]> By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive » In the Middle of a Perilous Peace http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/29/is-the-islamic-world-rejecting-al-qaeda-theology-thanks-to-the-war-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-135925 Flopping Aces » Blog Archive » In the Middle of a Perilous Peace Fri, 05 Dec 2008 20:58:05 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=5033#comment-135925 [...] al Qaeda has lost legitimacy, thanks to the war in Iraq: I still find people in America, Nepal, Thailand, UAE and other [...]

[...] al Qaeda has lost legitimacy, thanks to the war in Iraq: I still find people in America, Nepal, Thailand, UAE and other [...]

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]]> By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive » President Bush Took His Eyes Off the Ball in the GWoT http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/29/is-the-islamic-world-rejecting-al-qaeda-theology-thanks-to-the-war-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-130265 Flopping Aces » Blog Archive » President Bush Took His Eyes Off the Ball in the GWoT Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:59:15 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=5033#comment-130265 [...] the Iraqi government will begin paying salaries to 51,000 members of the Sons of Iraq, and where al Qaeda lost the hearts and minds of the Muslim [...]

[...] the Iraqi government will begin paying salaries to 51,000 members of the Sons of Iraq, and where al Qaeda lost the hearts and minds of the Muslim [...]

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]]> By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive » Who Gets to Define the Faith of 1.5 Billion People? http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/29/is-the-islamic-world-rejecting-al-qaeda-theology-thanks-to-the-war-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-114918 Flopping Aces » Blog Archive » Who Gets to Define the Faith of 1.5 Billion People? Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:28:26 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=5033#comment-114918 [...] Laden and Zawahiri tried to convince the Muslim world that the West are at war with Islam. They have failed. That is, unless they’ve simultaneously convinced the West that Islam is at war with [...]

[...] Laden and Zawahiri tried to convince the Muslim world that the West are at war with Islam. They have failed. That is, unless they’ve simultaneously convinced the West that Islam is at war with [...]

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]]> By: MataHarley http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/29/is-the-islamic-world-rejecting-al-qaeda-theology-thanks-to-the-war-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-81477 MataHarley Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:27:26 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=5033#comment-81477 Right on, James Manning... INRE "turn everything representing Arab Culture into symbols or terrorism". I have complained for a very long time about the inadequate definition of the enemy - the global Islamic jihad movement. We westeners do not enjoy the ability to see the Arab or Muslim perspective with accuracy because of our upbringing, and our privilege of freedom at birth in this country. The only views provided are thru the eyes of a western press, using generalized, over simplified analogies. i.e., it is not always Sunni vs Shia. They have been known to cooperate in many a mission against a common foe. Hezbollah and Hamas enjoy interrelations and support that would surprpise many. Fact is, an Iranian-Shia theocracy is no better for the population at large, or their economy, than a Sunni theocracy. Islamic rule as law of the land results in 3rd world conditions and human rights violations at every turn. Modern Islam rejects this type of governance with elections at every turn (with the exception of Palestine, which voted for Hamas socialist welfare programs). I too will rue the day when we lose the valuable culture contributions of the Middle East because of too broad of associations. However humanity and public opinion, in their simplicity and lack of perspective, often tends to react in the extreme. Sure glad I learned how to make my own hummus tho.... LOL

Right on, James Manning… INRE “turn everything representing Arab Culture into symbols or terrorism”.

I have complained for a very long time about the inadequate definition of the enemy – the global Islamic jihad movement. We westeners do not enjoy the ability to see the Arab or Muslim perspective with accuracy because of our upbringing, and our privilege of freedom at birth in this country. The only views provided are thru the eyes of a western press, using generalized, over simplified analogies.

i.e., it is not always Sunni vs Shia. They have been known to cooperate in many a mission against a common foe. Hezbollah and Hamas enjoy interrelations and support that would surprpise many. Fact is, an Iranian-Shia theocracy is no better for the population at large, or their economy, than a Sunni theocracy.

Islamic rule as law of the land results in 3rd world conditions and human rights violations at every turn. Modern Islam rejects this type of governance with elections at every turn (with the exception of Palestine, which voted for Hamas socialist welfare programs).

I too will rue the day when we lose the valuable culture contributions of the Middle East because of too broad of associations. However humanity and public opinion, in their simplicity and lack of perspective, often tends to react in the extreme.

Sure glad I learned how to make my own hummus tho…. LOL

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]]> By: james manning http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/29/is-the-islamic-world-rejecting-al-qaeda-theology-thanks-to-the-war-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-81419 james manning Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:54:12 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=5033#comment-81419 You are on point with this assessment. I have Muslim friends and I can tell you that they are no more terrorist sympathizers than you or I. However, if we make Islam the enemy rather than the extremist who seek tyranny under the guise of religious doctrine, then we will find ourselves in a never-ending battle. To MataHarley's point: It is true that a minority can enforce its will on the majority given the right circumstances and armed strength. But as we have seen in Iraq, al-Qaeda was only as strong as its support from the Sunni population. The major concern I have with our reaction to extremist is that we turn everything representing Arab culture into symbols or terrorism. When an American company has to pull an ad due to a scarf - we are not far from the edge. I can see a day when a Persian rug becomes evidence of sympathizing with Iran.

You are on point with this assessment. I have Muslim friends and I can tell you that they are no more terrorist sympathizers than you or I. However, if we make Islam the enemy rather than the extremist who seek tyranny under the guise of religious doctrine, then we will find ourselves in a never-ending battle.

To MataHarley’s point: It is true that a minority can enforce its will on the majority given the right circumstances and armed strength. But as we have seen in Iraq, al-Qaeda was only as strong as its support from the Sunni population.

The major concern I have with our reaction to extremist is that we turn everything representing Arab culture into symbols or terrorism. When an American company has to pull an ad due to a scarf – we are not far from the edge. I can see a day when a Persian rug becomes evidence of sympathizing with Iran.

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]]> By: MataHarley http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/29/is-the-islamic-world-rejecting-al-qaeda-theology-thanks-to-the-war-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-79311 MataHarley Sat, 31 May 2008 18:04:35 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/?p=5033#comment-79311 <blockquote>Al Qaeda never had any support amongst the majority Shia 60%</blockquote> Saddam didn't have that 60% support either, John Ryan. Are you suggesting that it's impossible for a minority to have dictatorial rule over the majority? In which case, you are ignoring decades of history in that very country. Arthur, it has never been suggested that *all* Muslims support a caliphate. However a minority of militants, using violence, fear and weaponry, can take over a nation and enforce their will... see the case of Saddam and a minority, ruling for decades over the majority.

Al Qaeda never had any support amongst the majority Shia 60%

Saddam didn’t have that 60% support either, John Ryan. Are you suggesting that it’s impossible for a minority to have dictatorial rule over the majority? In which case, you are ignoring decades of history in that very country.

Arthur, it has never been suggested that *all* Muslims support a caliphate. However a minority of militants, using violence, fear and weaponry, can take over a nation and enforce their will… see the case of Saddam and a minority, ruling for decades over the majority.

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