An Imagined Dialogue:

General Petraeus’ (Apr. 8 congressional testimony):

[C]ivilian deaths have decreased over the past year to a level not seen since the February 2006 Samarra mosque bombing that set off the cycle of sectarian violence that tore the very fabric of Iraqi society in 2006 and early 2007.

Humble observer:

So was this “cycle of sectarian violence that tore the very fabric of” Iraqi society a ‘civil war’?

Gillespie:

No!

Petraeus (continuing):

In September, I described the fundamental nature of the conflict in Iraq as a competition among ethnic and sectarian communities for power and resources. This competition continues, influenced heavily by outside actors. And its resolution remains the key to producing long- term stability in Iraq. Various elements push Iraq’s ethno-sectarian competition toward violence. Terrorists, insurgents, militia extremists and criminal gangs pose significant threats.

Humble observer:

So, it’s an “ethno-sectarian competition” that “tore the very fabric of” Iraqi society –but not a civil war.

Gillespie:

Exactly!

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I’d like to bolden this part:

On November 27, 2006, NBC News made a decision to no longer just cover the news in Iraq, but to make an analytical and editorial judgment that Iraq was in a civil war. As you know, both the United States government and the Government of Iraq disputed your account at that time. As Matt Lauer said that morning on The Today Show: “We should mention, we didn’t just wake up on a Monday morning and say, ‘Let’s call this a civil war.’ This took careful deliberation.’”

I noticed that around September of 2007, your network quietly stopped referring to conditions in Iraq as a “civil war.” Is it still NBC News’s carefully deliberated opinion that Iraq is in the midst of a civil war? If not, will the network publicly declare that the civil war has ended, or that it was wrong to declare it in the first place?

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NBC Nightly News with Michael Moore.

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Aye Chihuahua,

“…the same people continue to spew the same stuff over and over.”

Show they are wrong, and they change to another subject and say, ‘well, what about this?’ until enough time elapses and they repeat the first nonsense again.

You would think that after they were shown to be wrong a sufficient number of times that it would dawn on them that something was wrong with their data processing, but no.

“How long do you think it will be before the “edited” version of the Presidents comments become what is posted on websites throughout the Internet?”

I wouldn’t be surprised if it already is. And if you point out they are wrong, they will just foam at the mouth and keep repeating the lie. I saw a while back that Dan Rather was still defending his “fake but accurate” shtick about that phony memo (it may have been on the show referred to here where he’s bashing Bush for, of all things, deception). It’s as if they are constitutionally incapable of processing truth, like they were afraid it would be toxic to them, or something.

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Meglomania: You are correct that the GOP brand is smelling like tainted dog food. The only saving grace we may have is that the other brand is smelling like dog sh#t that someone stepped in and then walked across the living room carpet.

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This kind of misquoting, half quoting, etc is nothing new, but perfectly acceptable for Bush-haters. Note, no left partisans calling for honest reporting here. None.

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Here is the kicker, and you better believe that this media once the Bush Bubble of defense will now turn upon Bush and Company. The big news is advertising revenues projected are in a down swing for media. Especially the old broadcast America, now, high definition media is cutting over in 2009. Big time change in real old advertising that is going kaput, a whole market switched off just like that.

However in a sense good for America, here an abundance of broadcasting equipment, manpower, revenue, management and first line Journalism that either get a parachute or are going to have to jump from the ledge. A lot of bodies are going to compete for Chris Mathews and Tim Russert’s job. So, better believe, leaks, creeps, and moral authority may even pop up once in a while, the Media Pimp Meisters, the contextual slip streamers of smear, chaos, confusion splatter, and IMUS types will likely retire because the FCC will inevitably change when Democrats get in about the same time too.

When the theme is as bad as claimed as the Party it self, the trend is there. Here the GOP label is so bad that if they sold it as dog food it would be taken off the shelf because it is so tainted is an expression that at first was funny, but illustrates the trend of the dollar. Dollar value of the stock market too.

Metaphorically speaking, and knowing the Bush method of operation, grand pa Bush would be proud of George and Company, for they are riding the new wave. One watching the stock market sees a side way move, while oil keeps reaching new highs are telling everyone the big guy’s are unloading in the market. Stocks are about to take a dive. A big time drop in the Dow is likely as pump prices keep wondering up past 4.00 a gallon. Billions of dollars are diverted out of the economy every day. You have to be a fool not to recognize that, but fools of CNBC seem to think the economy is resilient.

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“you don’t HAVE to fool all the people all the time.”

That’s exactly right.

Exactly.

Once you convince just a few there is a very good chance that they will be practically rabid in their belief and nothing will convince them of their error in judgment.

Just think how often we see it right here on this site.

The talking points are spewed out and refuted one by one over and over and over again.

Yet the same people continue to spew the same stuff over and over.

This sort of “journalism” has been going on to some degree since the beginning of our country. Only during this war has it become the majority.

How long do you think it will be before the “edited” version of the Presidents comments become what is posted on websites throughout the Internet?

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“How in the world does the MSM actually believe they won’t be called on this kind of blatant bias in this day and age?”

They don’t care, and I saw the secret in a political cartoon in a Lefty rag back in the sixties, the punchline of the winner to the shocked loser (carrying a sign that said “you can’t fool all the people all the time,” was, “you don’t HAVE to fool all the people all the time.”

And yes, it takes a lot of arrogance to behave the way they do, which explains Obie’s behavior, as well. If you want to know which ones are the bad ones, just look at how arrogant they are. As an example, that Engles character isn’t as rude as Wright, but he seems to be working on it.

And, no, contrary to Mr. Bush’s vision, we will never see a “Placentinian” state gouged out of the heart of Historic (Biblical) Israel. If it ever appears to come into being, it will be short lived and constantly dependent on life support, because it just is not viable on their own.

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SPEAKING OF ATTACKS

What is your bet that CAIR will try to spin that as a “hate crime” committed by the news crew?

As to NBC, my experience is they are some of the worst (the worst I’ve seen, though I haven’t seen that many so there could be others that are worse.) During Katrina, they kept harping about how minorities were suffering and that the administration didn’t care. They sounded like Wrong Rebend Wright. I couldn’t stomach it, and was only able to watch till I got over the initial shock at what they were doing, less than 30 seconds total, I think.

Unlike the news crew above who were physically assaulted by Muslims, those “attacked” by Bush and Rove fully deserved it. The only problem I have with their “attacks” is that it is far too little and far too late. Opinions are already formed, and it will take years and maybe even decades to undo the damage. And with such a dangerous person as O’Bomber (Kennedy pronunciation) within reach of the presidency, we don’t have the luxury of even one year.

G-d BLESS America? No! No! No! G-d HELP America!!!!! (And, obviously Bless, too, but first things first, after all)

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