@wordsmith: While I’ll admit theres some level of excitment, but it’s excitment that there is a man worth while, with the vision, and leadership skills to move us forward, and he happens to be black, a plus. And he has a real chance at winning. Thats the excitment. On the most part.

Wow…that seems to echo my sentiments here.

I think his non-whiteness, is part of the excitement and appeal. He has the innate charm and charisma; but part of the packaging is definitely based around his very mixed- and deeply American- background of heritage and ethnicity. He’s an American mutt. And that resonates with many of us. But I’m not sure he’d be where he is today, if it weren’t for this “black identity” of his. He’d just be another John Edwards.

I think it’s accurate to say that race is clearly factoring into this election, in one shape and another.

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@MataHarley: I agree with you that there is racism on both sides, but if there is talk of Obama losing and some saying it is a racial thing, don’t you think that it could be somewhat true when there are people spreading propaganda, about his being Arab, which is not true. Or his muslim ties to his family? In the political climate today, it would scare the crap out of someone to vote for an Arab muslim. Don’t you think that could be somewhat credible?

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@wordsmith: While I’ll admit theres some level of excitment, but it’s excitment that there is a man worth while, with the vision, and leadership skills to move us forward, and he happens to be black, a plus. And he has a real chance at winning. Thats the excitment. On the most part.

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It’s ok to disagree with me. I have no statistical studies to support my view. It might be that most voters aren’t voting so much on race, as on someone who seems to offer “a fresh start”, running on “hope” and “change”. But between the two parties, I am sure it’s those supporting Obama who are voting on account of race (or at least it’s factoring into their excitement to support him) more so than those who will vote against him on account of race. I’m 100% confident of that- and I’m never 100% sure of anything.

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@wordsmith: I have to disagree with you, I think people are just so sick of the direction we have been going, we need someone to lead us down a different path. I really don’t think MAJORITY of people are putting race into it quite as much as everyone here seems to think. There is always going to be the ones who do, but it is not just limited to the one side. BOTH sides are going to have that element.

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“Undecided people are having a difficult time just culturally making the change, making the move for the first African American president in the history of the United States of America,”

Try to point out Obama’s historic ties to socialism, and his proposed policies proving he is still socialist, and they cry “racism!”. Talk about a “distraction”.

I wish the mainstream would call Dems out on this- that they are the ones making this an issue about race, to force guilt votes for Obama to prove to the world and to ourselves that we have moved beyond race. What a fairy tale crock and a dishonest slander of those who oppose an Obama presidency based upon policy and ideological differences.

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Boy, this cyber conversation can go no where. Hang, who you know in your personal circles is not indicative of the nation. Racists exist in both parties. And those that try to convince me that there is more in one party or another is just posturing in fantasy land. Sometimes racism is a result of the era they were brought up. Sometimes it’s a matter of parents passing on hate to their kids.

And are we including racists that are black? Or only white racists? It’s just all conjecture, theory. There will never be a poll with the question “are you a racist” that will be answered with a modicum of honesty.

What *is*, however, undeniably true is that an Obama loss is already being labeled as a race issue even today… the latest race card played by ol’ slow Joe Biden himself.

“Undecided people are having a difficult time just culturally making the change, making the move for the first African American president in the history of the United States of America,” the Democratic vice-presidential nominee said at a San Francisco fundraiser Saturday evening. “So we need to respond. We need to respond at the moment, immediately, not wait, not hang around, not assume any of this won’t stick.”

“You see these vicious attacks on Barack’s character,” Biden told supporters. “I mean, this is dangerous stuff these guys are doing. This stuff is on the edge. It’s on the edge. You know, there’s some folks out there in the community nationwide that aren’t as stable as others. It’s a very small minority. But having these rallies where people are showing up saying, you know, the things they’re saying – I don’t even want to repeat them — it’s not a healthy thing.”

Try to point out Obama’s historic ties to socialism, and his proposed policies proving he is still socialist, and they cry “racism!”. Talk about a “distraction”.

The talking point against Obama’s socialism is the pat answer about the bailout. And yes… the bailout was started by the GOP POTUS. But it was shoved down our throats by 100% DNC… with love… and battled by only a few genuine conservatives. Who *also* caved.

But with an Obama-Pelosi-Reid govt, that socialism will grow out of control. Perhaps a more moderate Congress could keep a socialist Obama reined in. But that’s the the future in our cards.

The DNC will attempt to guilt voters into an Obama Presidency by calling every one racists in advance.

And to them, I spit in their eye and call them progressive Marxists…. no matter what color their candidate.

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@Heru Ammen:

If you think all blacks are voting because of the issues you need to do a little more investigation and I have just the article for you to start on.

Check this page out first.

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Aye Chihuahua,

“Right now I have flowers to plant.”

“I think I actually learned a few things myself.”

You know, I do have to hand it to those Lefties. In order to answer them, I need to do research and think about how to put it together (more stuff I might get good at if I do it long enough), and I end up learning a lot that I wouldn’t have otherwise. So, I guess they are good for something, in a backhanded sort of way. Better than that, though, are the many conservative bloggers who really have it together, from whom I actually learn a lot of what I need to know.

Anyway, good results with your flowers. Here’s the first flower of the only plant that came up from a whole pack of seeds. A little fuzzy, but nice effect, I think. I just took that less than an hour ago by flashlight with my cellphone cam.

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Wordsmith, Stix, and Yonason.

Wow, you guys/gals really brought it on while I was away.

Thanks for the time and effort that you spent on the research.

I think I actually learned a few things myself.

I’ll have a few things to say regarding the issue with the Baptists later on.

Right now I have flowers to plant.

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