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		<title>By: wordsmith</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/11/religious-bigotry-from-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-276782</link>
		<dc:creator>wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 06:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for taking the time to read it, Tom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Thanks for taking the time to read it, Tom.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/11/religious-bigotry-from-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-276776</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 04:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wordsmith, excellent, interesting post. My compliments.  Of some of my most caustic generalizations about this site, you are living, writing proof against.</description>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; Is the Islamic world rejecting al-Qaeda theology, thanks to the War in Iraq?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; Is the Islamic world rejecting al-Qaeda theology, thanks to the War in Iraq?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 18:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Andrew McCarthy, author of Willful Blindness: A Memoir of the Jihad, estimates that perhaps 20% of Muslims are an issue, when it comes to Islamic terror and Islamism. They are a vocal, &#8220;dynamic minority&#8221;, he said yesterday in an interview on the Dennis Prager Show. Most readers find Spencerian agreement with McCarthy in his assessment of the Islamist threat. But I do not think he goes so far as to condemn Islam as a whole, falling into the pitfalls of educated religious bigotry. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>[...] Andrew McCarthy, author of Willful Blindness: A Memoir of the Jihad, estimates that perhaps 20% of Muslims are an issue, when it comes to Islamic terror and Islamism. They are a vocal, &#8220;dynamic minority&#8221;, he said yesterday in an interview on the Dennis Prager Show. Most readers find Spencerian agreement with McCarthy in his assessment of the Islamist threat. But I do not think he goes so far as to condemn Islam as a whole, falling into the pitfalls of educated religious bigotry. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Baltimore Reporter</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/11/religious-bigotry-from-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-76976</link>
		<dc:creator>The Baltimore Reporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 04:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Andrew McCarthy, author of Willful Blindness: A Memoir of the Jihad, estimates that perhaps 20% of Muslims are an issue, when it comes to Islamic terror and Islamism. They are a vocal, &#8220;dynamic minority&#8221;, he said yesterday in an interview on the Dennis Prager Show. Most readers find Spencerian agreement with McCarthy in his assessment of the Islamist threat. But I do not think he goes so far as to condemn Islam as a whole, falling into the pitfalls of educated religious bigotry. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
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		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wordsmith-#43

GAME, SET, MATCH</description>
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<p>GAME, SET, MATCH</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer Roberts</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/11/religious-bigotry-from-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-63643</link>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And, yes, he also postulates, theoretically, that there may be moderate Muslim “reformers” and that we should be looking for them, but then asks (I paraphrase) “If they are out there, then why the hell can’t we find them?”&lt;/i&gt;

So Spencer &lt;i&gt;asks&lt;/i&gt; the question, but does he actually &lt;i&gt;answer&lt;/i&gt; his own question? I haven&#039;t checked the link provided by yonason, but judging by Spencer&#039;s usual behaviour, it is safe to assume that he doesn&#039;t. And even in the unlikely event that he does so this time around (which would be a very welcome change for the better), the problem with Spencer is that he usually doesn&#039;t.

&lt;i&gt;You tell us not to listen to Spencer.&lt;/i&gt;

This is simply not true, in fact I must acknowledge that as far as knowledge about Islam goes, there are few that are better than Spencer. What I try to point out are the &lt;i&gt;shortcomings&lt;/i&gt; of Spencer - indeed, even Spencer has his faults, and there is nothing wrong with pointing them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><i>And, yes, he also postulates, theoretically, that there may be moderate Muslim “reformers” and that we should be looking for them, but then asks (I paraphrase) “If they are out there, then why the hell can’t we find them?”</i></p>
<p>So Spencer <i>asks</i> the question, but does he actually <i>answer</i> his own question? I haven&#8217;t checked the link provided by yonason, but judging by Spencer&#8217;s usual behaviour, it is safe to assume that he doesn&#8217;t. And even in the unlikely event that he does so this time around (which would be a very welcome change for the better), the problem with Spencer is that he usually doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p><i>You tell us not to listen to Spencer.</i></p>
<p>This is simply not true, in fact I must acknowledge that as far as knowledge about Islam goes, there are few that are better than Spencer. What I try to point out are the <i>shortcomings</i> of Spencer &#8211; indeed, even Spencer has his faults, and there is nothing wrong with pointing them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Wordsmith</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/11/religious-bigotry-from-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-63620</link>
		<dc:creator>Wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Spencer Roberts&quot; in #38:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I’d be curious to know what exactly yonason categorizes as “paranoid conspirational rantings”, as I failed to notice anything of the kind in the post I linked to in my previous comment.&lt;/blockquote&gt;  You failed to notice, because you are a paranoid conspiratorial ranter who sees nothing wrong with what you say, and as yonason put it so accurately, to paraphrase, even Spencer isn&#039;t Spencer enough&quot; for the likes of you.

&quot;Spencer Roberts&quot; is a waste of time.  He posts the same derangement drivel over and over in any thread that falls one iota short of condemning Islam as an evil religion.  He is stuck on slant, and can&#039;t see his own bigotry and evil for what it is:  Evil and bigoted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&#8220;Spencer Roberts&#8221; in #38:</p>
<blockquote><p>I’d be curious to know what exactly yonason categorizes as “paranoid conspirational rantings”, as I failed to notice anything of the kind in the post I linked to in my previous comment.</p></blockquote>
<p>  You failed to notice, because you are a paranoid conspiratorial ranter who sees nothing wrong with what you say, and as yonason put it so accurately, to paraphrase, even Spencer isn&#8217;t Spencer enough&#8221; for the likes of you.</p>
<p>&#8220;Spencer Roberts&#8221; is a waste of time.  He posts the same derangement drivel over and over in any thread that falls one iota short of condemning Islam as an evil religion.  He is stuck on slant, and can&#8217;t see his own bigotry and evil for what it is:  Evil and bigoted.</p>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
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		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.heritage.org/press/events/ev111406a.cfm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here (as I referenced above)&lt;/a&gt; Spencer specifically says that Islam is the problem, and he says it in several ways that illustrate how we should go about dealing with it.  And, yes, he also postulates, &lt;em&gt;theoretically&lt;/em&gt;, that there may be moderate Muslim &quot;reformers&quot; and that we should be looking for them, but then asks (I paraphrase) &quot;If they are out there, then why the hell can&#039;t we find them?&quot;
 
...therefore...
&lt;b&gt;Your accusations are false.&lt;/b&gt;  
 
(I don&#039;t care that it&#039;s not your website.  You are the one who came here making those ridiculous assertions, so as far as I&#039;m concerened you own them.)
 
You tell us not to listen to Spencer.  That&#039;s a &quot;plan?&quot;  And it will accomplish, ...what?  All you would succeed in doing is subverting the most coherent voice of alarm which spells out what we need to look for to resist it, and replacing it with an irrational one of panic, at best.
 
...therefore...
&lt;b&gt;Your thesis is dreck.&lt;/b&gt;
 
&lt;b&gt;F-&lt;/b&gt; for the course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><a href="http://www.heritage.org/press/events/ev111406a.cfm" rel="nofollow">Here (as I referenced above)</a> Spencer specifically says that Islam is the problem, and he says it in several ways that illustrate how we should go about dealing with it.  And, yes, he also postulates, <em>theoretically</em>, that there may be moderate Muslim &#8220;reformers&#8221; and that we should be looking for them, but then asks (I paraphrase) &#8220;If they are out there, then why the hell can&#8217;t we find them?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;therefore&#8230;<br />
<b>Your accusations are false.</b>  </p>
<p>(I don&#8217;t care that it&#8217;s not your website.  You are the one who came here making those ridiculous assertions, so as far as I&#8217;m concerened you own them.)</p>
<p>You tell us not to listen to Spencer.  That&#8217;s a &#8220;plan?&#8221;  And it will accomplish, &#8230;what?  All you would succeed in doing is subverting the most coherent voice of alarm which spells out what we need to look for to resist it, and replacing it with an irrational one of panic, at best.</p>
<p>&#8230;therefore&#8230;<br />
<b>Your thesis is dreck.</b></p>
<p><b>F-</b> for the course.</p>
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		<title>By: Spencer Roberts</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/11/religious-bigotry-from-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-63068</link>
		<dc:creator>Spencer Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 05:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently, yonason has yet to notice that I am not the author of the blog &quot;Jihad Watch Watch&quot;, and thus my links to posts on that blog are not self-promotion (which seems to be his main gripe, for some odd reason). Apart from that, he seems reluctant to comment on the points raised by the author of that blog, and he simply ignores the quote I provided from the blogger Lawrence Auster.

Because the problem with Spencer is that he is unwilling to draw the natural conclusions from &lt;i&gt;his own vast knowledge&lt;/i&gt;. For instance, why can&#039;t he just admit that Islam cannot be reformed, instead of being evasive and present the nonsensical &quot;challenge&quot; to Muslims to reform it even as his knowledge makes it clear that Islamic reform is indeed impossible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Apparently, yonason has yet to notice that I am not the author of the blog &#8220;Jihad Watch Watch&#8221;, and thus my links to posts on that blog are not self-promotion (which seems to be his main gripe, for some odd reason). Apart from that, he seems reluctant to comment on the points raised by the author of that blog, and he simply ignores the quote I provided from the blogger Lawrence Auster.</p>
<p>Because the problem with Spencer is that he is unwilling to draw the natural conclusions from <i>his own vast knowledge</i>. For instance, why can&#8217;t he just admit that Islam cannot be reformed, instead of being evasive and present the nonsensical &#8220;challenge&#8221; to Muslims to reform it even as his knowledge makes it clear that Islamic reform is indeed impossible?</p>
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		<title>By: yonason</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/11/religious-bigotry-from-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-63005</link>
		<dc:creator>yonason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 03:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My last(#39) should have been to S.R.#38, not S.R.#37, obviously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>My last(#39) should have been to S.R.#38, not S.R.#37, obviously.</p>
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