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	<title>Comments on: CNN &#8211; &#8220;Religious Right&#8221; Leaning Toward Obama</title>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/11/cnn-religious-right-leaning-toward-obama/#comment-61441</link>
		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 17:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but the source you cited doesn&#039;t support what you are claiming.

That&#039;s not unusual though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Sorry, but the source you cited doesn&#8217;t support what you are claiming.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not unusual though.</p>
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		<title>By: Philadelphia Steve</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/11/cnn-religious-right-leaning-toward-obama/#comment-61406</link>
		<dc:creator>Philadelphia Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 16:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She was only nominated by President Bush after he received permission from James Dobson.

http://www.fcnp.com/532/besen.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>She was only nominated by President Bush after he received permission from James Dobson.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fcnp.com/532/besen.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.fcnp.com/532/besen.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/11/cnn-religious-right-leaning-toward-obama/#comment-61386</link>
		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 16:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dobson supported her nomination.

What&#039;s your point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Dobson supported her nomination.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s your point?</p>
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		<title>By: Philadelphia Steve</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/11/cnn-religious-right-leaning-toward-obama/#comment-61353</link>
		<dc:creator>Philadelphia Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 15:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harriet Meiers experience in her short-lived nomination for the Supreme Court is the evidence upon which I base my statement that James Dobson has veto power over Republican Court nominees.

What is your evidence to the contrary?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Harriet Meiers experience in her short-lived nomination for the Supreme Court is the evidence upon which I base my statement that James Dobson has veto power over Republican Court nominees.</p>
<p>What is your evidence to the contrary?</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 13:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

Full of conspiracies, projectionism, paranoia, lies, and spoon-fed propaghanda.

Your ignorance and bile were not missed.  You are wrong time and again but cling religiously to your beliefs and &quot;no amount of evidence, facts or results can countermand that level of indoctrination&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Steve,</p>
<p>Full of conspiracies, projectionism, paranoia, lies, and spoon-fed propaghanda.</p>
<p>Your ignorance and bile were not missed.  You are wrong time and again but cling religiously to your beliefs and &#8220;no amount of evidence, facts or results can countermand that level of indoctrination&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Philadelphia Steve</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/05/11/cnn-religious-right-leaning-toward-obama/#comment-60862</link>
		<dc:creator>Philadelphia Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 04:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is zero chance of the evangelical vote going anywhere other than John McCain.

For almost thirty years Pat Robertson and James Dobson have convinced Christian Fundamentalists that God is a registered Republican.  No amount of evidence, facts or results can countermand that level of indoctrination.

In return James Dobson has veto power over Republican Supreme Court nominees (ask Harriet Meyers).

It is that simple.

You Conservatives have nothing to worry about.  There is absolutely no one you can nominate for President, or policy you can persue that will lose that vote:  Just as long as James Dobson keeps his veto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>There is zero chance of the evangelical vote going anywhere other than John McCain.</p>
<p>For almost thirty years Pat Robertson and James Dobson have convinced Christian Fundamentalists that God is a registered Republican.  No amount of evidence, facts or results can countermand that level of indoctrination.</p>
<p>In return James Dobson has veto power over Republican Supreme Court nominees (ask Harriet Meyers).</p>
<p>It is that simple.</p>
<p>You Conservatives have nothing to worry about.  There is absolutely no one you can nominate for President, or policy you can persue that will lose that vote:  Just as long as James Dobson keeps his veto.</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 01:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New Evangelical document presents some interesting political intersections for the national election:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Prominent evangelicals urged Christian conservatives Wednesday to support &quot;an expansion of our concerns beyond single-issue politics,&quot; angering some leaders on the religious right who have been closely allied with the Republican Party.

In a 19-page document called &quot;An Evangelical Manifesto,&quot; more than 70 theologians, pastors and others said faith and politics have been too closely mixed. They warned against Christians adopting any one political view.

&quot;That way faith loses its independence, Christians become &#039;useful idiots&#039; for one political party or another, and the Christian faith becomes an ideology,&quot; they wrote.

Many veteran Christian activists on the right side of the political spectrum do not support the declaration.

James Dobson, founder of the conservative Christian group Focus on the Family, reviewed the document and was invited to sign it, but did not, said Gary Schneeberger, a spokesman for Dobson. Dobson consulted the group&#039;s board of directors — a common practice — and the board agreed he shouldn&#039;t sign &quot;due to myriad concerns about the effort,&quot; Schneeberger said.
...
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gIMD30g1mDuBXJyCdwZrew3j5RtQD90H2HCO2

I take this as another traffic sign on the road to the election that there is division in the significant evangelical community. 

You can see Os discuss the document here:
http://blog.faithinpubliclife.org/2008/05/video_evangelical_manifesto_le.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>New Evangelical document presents some interesting political intersections for the national election:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Prominent evangelicals urged Christian conservatives Wednesday to support &#8220;an expansion of our concerns beyond single-issue politics,&#8221; angering some leaders on the religious right who have been closely allied with the Republican Party.</p>
<p>In a 19-page document called &#8220;An Evangelical Manifesto,&#8221; more than 70 theologians, pastors and others said faith and politics have been too closely mixed. They warned against Christians adopting any one political view.</p>
<p>&#8220;That way faith loses its independence, Christians become &#8216;useful idiots&#8217; for one political party or another, and the Christian faith becomes an ideology,&#8221; they wrote.</p>
<p>Many veteran Christian activists on the right side of the political spectrum do not support the declaration.</p>
<p>James Dobson, founder of the conservative Christian group Focus on the Family, reviewed the document and was invited to sign it, but did not, said Gary Schneeberger, a spokesman for Dobson. Dobson consulted the group&#8217;s board of directors — a common practice — and the board agreed he shouldn&#8217;t sign &#8220;due to myriad concerns about the effort,&#8221; Schneeberger said.<br />
&#8230;
</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gIMD30g1mDuBXJyCdwZrew3j5RtQD90H2HCO2" rel="nofollow">http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gIMD30g1mDuBXJyCdwZrew3j5RtQD90H2HCO2</a></p>
<p>I take this as another traffic sign on the road to the election that there is division in the significant evangelical community. </p>
<p>You can see Os discuss the document here:<br />
<a href="http://blog.faithinpubliclife.org/2008/05/video_evangelical_manifesto_le.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.faithinpubliclife.org/2008/05/video_evangelical_manifesto_le.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 00:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would doubt very seriously if any Bible believers are going to vote for Obama especially since he finds partial birth abortion perfectly acceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I would doubt very seriously if any Bible believers are going to vote for Obama especially since he finds partial birth abortion perfectly acceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Romano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Romano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 21:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug:

Oh yes, I forgot he had a son; thanks for the correction.  Actually, his son left evangelicalism a while ago and follows Orthodox Christianity:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Schaeffer

I highly doubt he has much sway in evangelical circles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Doug:</p>
<p>Oh yes, I forgot he had a son; thanks for the correction.  Actually, his son left evangelicalism a while ago and follows Orthodox Christianity:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Schaeffer" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Schaeffer</a></p>
<p>I highly doubt he has much sway in evangelical circles.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Romano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Romano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 19:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Richard, Franky is Francis’s son. He’s a filmmaker, author, and political activist. )

Ah, I had forgotten about him - well he isn&#039;t considered mainstream either, having distanced himself from his father&#039;s evangelicalism:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Schaeffer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>(Richard, Franky is Francis’s son. He’s a filmmaker, author, and political activist. )</p>
<p>Ah, I had forgotten about him &#8211; well he isn&#8217;t considered mainstream either, having distanced himself from his father&#8217;s evangelicalism:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Schaeffer" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Schaeffer</a></p>
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