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8 May
Base Where Iranians Train Terrorists to Kill Americans Revealed
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Thursday, May 8th, 2008 at 8:00 pm | 2 views
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So you want to open a third or fourth front? That could very well be a consequence of bombing some plywood-jimmied terrorist “sites.”
Consider this when forces decide take huge sums of money, weapons, and slip across the porous borders to Iraq slowly and en masse:
http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20080508/1a_lede08_dom.art.htm
Now i understand that a lot of them are missing shots, may need allergy bills, eyeglasses, and other minor” help to be found deployable, but,
Say 20%, or even 10%, of the 43,000 are “disabled,” that tells us that the Army is stressed and the forces are too weak to sustain operations.
You have to wonder how many are taking meds and drinking heavy to combat the PTSD and its relatives.
We had this problem in Vietnam. My guess is we will start to see more discussion of this as McCain offers up details of his Iraq strategy.
Anyway, the Army’s stress is not a secret:
(Note also this testimony was being delivered when there was “substantially decreased” violence in Iraq, unlike the present month or more. It may explain why Gates has a difference of opinion with Gen. P. regarding troop levels, and does not find Iran a direct military threat in the short term.)
Therefore, it’s a gamble provoking Iraq’s neighbors as it could very likely increase violence in Iraq.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=4248802
U.S. Military options rarely involve full scale invasions post WWII. Most military actions have been air campaigns (increasingly so over the past 18yrs). In the War on Terror, military options focus mostly on covert operations with lots of air support.
No need to worry, Pres Obama will convince the Iranians to stop killing Americans, to paint over the “DEATH TO AMERICA” that covers the US embassy in Tehran, and to end their support for radical islamic terrorists/death cults. After all, Obama has done so well uniting his party he’ll surely be able to unite the nation and the world to the cause of peace rather than martyrdom. If someone would just talk to the suicide bombers and those that arm em, everything would be ok.
Scott said:
“U.S. Military options rarely involve full scale invasions post WWII. Most military actions have been air campaigns (increasingly so over the past 18yrs). In the War on Terror, military options focus mostly on covert operations with lots of air support.”
True enough.
But that’s not the picture I painted in my above post and therefore does not meet my argument. So, let me restate it again.
Iran and Lebanon are Iraqi neighbors. They are not thousands of miles from where they can do our troops and our goals no harm; therefore, if we provoke them, they can slip through the porous borders attack, support and supply our enemy with earnest, adding further chaos to Iraq’s present instabilities.
Consequently, this could have an impact on troop levels, mission, and operations, therefore, adding _more_ stress to the Army.
So let’s not ignore the very possible ramifications provoking Iraq’s neighbors –and even Iraqi Shia — and thereby pushing our over-stressed Army even further.
Instead, you’re plan is to allow Iran to become nuclear, or do you think they can be talked out of their support for martyrdom death cults, the destruction of Israel, and the pursuit of 40+ nuclear bombs a year?
No one is discounting those possiblities. Even Bolton himself said that it would be a risk. The point is that not doing anything about it also affects our military as well. Iran training fighters and arming them hurts our troops as well. The question is which one has more long term consequences. I would argue that doing nothing would be worse, just like Bolton suggest.
We only need to look at other places in the world where Iranian influence is going unchecked to see what the long term consequenses could be. Attacking Iran training camps and presenting the evidence of the camps would put Iran in a very sticky situation. One that i dont think they would want to be in.
Doug trots out Vietnam with the usual drugged, drunk troops smear with a casualness that is breathtaking and insulting.
What he and his ilk fail to realize is that the current situation with Iran killing Americans in Iraq through their proxies as they have so often in Lebanon and Saudia Arabia (US Marine Barracks, 1983, Khobar Towers bombing 1996 ) and elsewhere is a DIRECT CONSEQUENCE of the weak kneed national security policy Doug and company support.
That’s hundreds of Ameican lives lost because Dough and friends constantly put the handcuffs on the good guys and have NO EFFECTIVE alternative to solve the problem.
What are you going to do with the Iranians Doug? Talk to them? Oh yeah… that will work… SURRREEEE!!! Been there, done that and they are still killing Americans.
The problem with the left is that they have no answer to anything but NO to whatever anyone else is trying to do.
Rather that support the effort of the constitutionally elected U.S. government they block and undermine our efforts at every opportunity (Nancy Pelosi and Jimmy Carter trips come to mind).
The left is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of Americans.
I say we send in 30 women with PMS, and 30 menopausal women in there to kick ass and take names. I really hate that we have to be the worlds police force, but it looks like all of the other countries could care less or are scared. Americans have a strong spirit and love freedom, we hate to see others in terrible conditions so we try and fix thengs for them and that pisses people off. i guess it goes to show you that no good deed goes unpunished.