“BHO just doesn’t want to get pinned down on anything it seems; it’s like he doesn’t want to be forced to have a position. ”

Isn’t that the truth Machiavelli? I was going through an old transcript with Obama on Meet the Press from 2006. It’s filled with waffles, indecision and lies. Worth the read. Looking for the video.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10909406/

A few little gems from the article:

MR. RUSSERT: The question is, here at home what are the politics, and you said this according to the Chicago Tribune. “It is arguable that the best politics going into ’06 would be a clear, succinct message, ‘Let’s bring our troops home.’…It’s certainly easier to communicate and I think would probably have some pretty strong resonance with the American people right now.” Why do you think that’s the best political message?

SEN. OBAMA: Well, you know, one of the things that I think in politics you’re always looking for is contrast, and obviously that gives a sharp, clearly-defined contrast to administration’s policy. Keep in mind, though, that that quote was presented in me explaining that that’s actually not the approach that I’m pursuing. My position has been that it would not be responsible for us to unilaterally and precipitously draw troops down regardless of the politics, because I think that all of us have a stake in seeing Iraq succeed. We need to get the policy right, and it’s inappropriate, I think, to have politics intrude at this point in such a critical stage in the development of the Middle East.

SEN. OBAMA: I will serve out my full six-year term. You know, Tim, if you get asked enough, sooner or later you get weary and you start looking for new ways of saying things. But my thinking has not changed.

MR. RUSSERT: So you will not run for president or vice president in 2008?

SEN. OBAMA: I will not.

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Machiavelli is correct. It doesn’t matter how powerful an arsenal someone has, if his ability to use it is compromised.

As to American Jews voting Democratic. That’s an embarrassment. Their behavior seems to be rooted in the same folly of peace with savages that Israeli Leftist “leaders” have come to embrace, and which even President Bush has been seduced by. So, if a mostly conservative leader can be fooled, then I guess it’s no surprise that dreamers and wishful thinkers are even more susceptible? Very frustrating, though not hopeless.

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Israel having 200 nukes, and Iran having none is an excellent balance of power in the region. Heck, Israel having 200 nukes, and the entire Middle East having none is an excellent balance of power. Plus, as much as Iran has been trying to develop their missile delivery systems, they also have their proxy in Hezbollah. So, a nuclear attack may very well come in a terrorist form, rather than at the tip of a missile. That could mean that Israel’s 200 nukes might very well get taken out in the proverbial “first strike” by Iran’s proxy. In such a case, it would be the U.S.’s duty to back-up our ally and retaliate massively against Iran.
Yes, American Jews have a history of voting Democratic (which in recent years has been particularly mind boggling). But, that doesn’t change the fact that Israel is our most important ally in the Middle East; not to mention the only true democracy in the region. The continual claims that Israel engages in some sort of “apartheid” are farcical at best, backhanded attempts to undermine Israel’s security at worst.

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Israel has 200 nukes Iran has none. Why does anyone think that they would need our help ?
American Jews are one of the firm bases of the modern Democratic Party in 2006 87% of the Jewish vote went to the Democrats. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/pages/results/states/US/H/00/epolls.0.html
The only way that governments can get people to pay taxes is through 2 ways either through services ( what some call socialism) or through fear that some boogie man is going to get them (like the commies are going to come and take our TVs and cars remember the Domino theory?)

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To concrete thinker 55110 in the sky with zircons

“If you followed the whole interview [no, I just knew right were to go to find his blunders and BS, skipping all the rest] you would understand Obama made a mistake… [mistake, blunder - you say tomato, I say tomahto...]”

The point was, …can you say “Freudian Slip?”
“…we would respond forcefully and appropriately on any attack AGAINST IRAN.”

“He said earlier in the interview Israel is our most important Allie[sic] in the region.”

Yes, but he doesn’t believe that. He’s only saying it in order to fool all the people he wants to vote for him who DO believe it. He’s a liar. His sympathies are with our enemies, as he shows in other words and by his actions. The Paleostinians suffer because of their own perfidy, and the aid raised for them by their sympathizers is used to kill Jews and Americans What else can I say?

And, yes, this is where Bush is also mistaken, though his error isn’t malicious. He really, though foolishly, thinks that by giving these savages self-determination at Israel’s expense, it will make them better and more peaceful people. And it doesn’t help that Israel’s Leftist “leaders” believe that, as well.

However, while Bush thinks abetting them will eliminate the enemy. O’Bomber thinks the evil they commit is justified, and doesn’t even see the need for them to change. And that makes him indistinguishable from them in kind, if not (yet) in degree.

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“… we will act forcefully and appropriately …”

Is this how you support your ally? Is this how you defend your interests in the region? No. It’s a recipe for disaster. The “measured response” hasn’t worked in the past, it will not work in the present and future.

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Right on Aye Chihuahua!

I almost feel sorry for 55110. He/she/whatever is clearly in over the head.

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Wow, thanks Sky!

I understand it perfectly now.

When McCain mis-speaks then it’s because of “old age”, but when the Obamessiah mis-speaks, it’s a “mistake”.

Laughable.

By the way you still haven’t properly addressed your misinformation campaign regarding the madrassah issue in the other thread.

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I’ll give barryboy the slip up on “defending iran” – BUT I care a whit what the UN says – I would fall out of my chair if ahmanutjob complained to them and the UN sided with us!

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No yonason, If you followed the whole interview you would understand Obama made a mistake and said Iran. He said earlier in the interview Israel is our most important Allie in the region.

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