29 Apr

Obama Attempts Damage Control – Update: FA Readers Called It Yesterday – Update: Geraghty “”a lot of this looks ridiculous now”

                                       

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You know the Obama campaign is seeing some baaaaad numbers over the last few days for Obama to come out and flip-flop on Wright: (via Michelle Malkin who liveblogged Obama’s speech)

“I’m outraged by the comments that were made and saddened by the spectacle. The person that I saw yesterday was not the person I met 20 years ago. His comments were not only divisive and destructive, but they end up giving comfort to those who prey on hate. I believe they do not accurately portray the perspective of the black church. They certainly don’t portray mine. If he considers this political posturing, then he doesn’t know me very well. And I don’t know him well either.”

AIDS conspiracy: “Ridiculous proposition.”

Farrakhan support and analogy of Marines/terrorism: “They offend me. They rightly offend all Americans. They should be denounced. And that’s what I’m doing clearly and unequivocally here today.”

It’s antithetical to our campaign. It’s antithetical to what I’m about. It’s not what America stands for. Rev. Wright does not speak for me. He doesn’t speak for our campaign. I can’t prevent him from making these outrageous remarks…When I say I find these statements appalling, I mean it…Makes me angry and saddens me.”

Q&A.

1) Why the change in tone between now and yesterday? Obama: “I hadn’t seen it…He wasn’t just defending himself. He was presenting a worldview…What particularly angered me was the suggestion that my previous remarks were political posturing…”

Ok. Let’s be clear then: It wasn’t the fact that Wright has been spewing this same recycled crap for years that finally got Obama mad. It was that he finally realized it was hurting his campaign. And he was personally miffed by Wright’s insults against him.

2) What does this say about your judgment to superdelegates? “The person I saw was not the person that I’d come to know over 20 years…Shocked me, surprised me.”

2:11pm Eastern. “Now is the time to pull together.” Refers to dire economic situation. “That didn’t matter to Rev. Wright. What mattered to him was commanding center stage.”

“I don’t think he showed much concern for me…or for what we’re trying to do in this campaign.”

3) Question: Have you spoken with Wright? “No.”

BO: “This has obviously put strains on the relationship” between Obama and Trinity Church.

“I want people to understand who I am. In some ways, the things Wright said yesterday directly contradict my life, issues, service, what I’ve said in my books, in my convention speech, announcement for president, everything I’ve said on the campaign trail. What I tried to do in Philadelphia was provide a context and lift up some of the contradictions and complexities in America and try to make something constructive out of it. There wasn’t anything constructive out of yesterday. All it was was a bunch of rants that aren’t grounded in truth…It was a show of disprespect to me.”

5) Question: What did Michelle Obama think? BO: “She was similarly angered.”

6) Question: Do you agree with Wright that attacks on him are attacks on black church? How important is black liberation theology?

BO: “I’m not a theologian.”

But he’s the Obamessiah!

BO: “I went to church and listened to sermons. What I heard, there’s an emphasis on importance of social struggle, striving for equality, justice, fairness, a social gospel. Rather than fancy word like black liberation theology, he uses social gospel.” Didn’t view attacks as attacks on black church.

2:23pm Eastern. There have been unfair caricatures, but “yesterday, he caricatured himself.”

Obama says he tried contacting Wright before his Philadelphia speech. He was on a cruise. When he returned, they did speak. But Obama will not elaborate. “But what I can say is that I told him I found the snippets of past sermons inexcusable.”

“There’s been great damage” to relationship with Wright. “Won’t be the same.” Denies that Wright was his spiritual mentor. But he married Michelle and I, baptized my children, prayed with us, etc. etc.

So now that his campaign is getting hurt he throws his mentor under the bus as he did his grandma. What other way can you see it other then that? There is no way, no how, Obama did NOT know what Wright was like. His speech yesterday was no different then the sermons he spewed from his racist mouth for decades. Additionally, he says he is no theologian when the Church pushed that black liberation theology hard for years also. Puhlease.

And why now? Why not when the videos first saw the light of day? Or how about the 20 years he sat in the pews?

As Michelle said, its all bullcrap.

Allah also brings up a valid point. During this press conference today Obama spoke about how good this new pastor, Otis Moss, is. Good to know:

Typical politician bullcrap.

Check out Wordsmiths take on his waffling here.

UPDATE

Mataharley made the case yesterday that Wrights behavior may be some backroom shananigans to let Obama save face:

I’m wondering if Wright is set to become a future tool for Obama to formally “eject” in the near future (as a public thing anyway). Who knows, it could already be arranged as campaign strategy/Act II. The back room workings of campaign handlers may be on to something, and this could be a big part of it. Obama “the victim” of Wright. Wright, “the nefarious” gets wealthy.

Hummmm…

And Barbara makes the same observation in this thread:

Has it occurred to anyone that these two (Obama and Wright) might have thought up this ploy as a justification for disowning Wright? Right now Obama is between a rock and a hard place but if Wright acts so outrageously Obma will have good reason to disown him. Never underestimate the political machinations of a democrat. Only at your peril. Wright is entirely too pleased with himself for me to not think this is a political gambit.

Excellent points….this whole thing does seem a bit too smooth and silky.

UPDATE II

Jim Geraghty on the Obama speech on race a few weeks back which now look utterly ridiculous with the events of the past few days:

The “not once have I heard him” line sounds particularly implausible today.

I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community.

Obama has now disproven this. Also note how this statement echoes Wright’s insistence that he is not being criticized, but that the entire black church is under attack.

I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother – a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.

This looked ridiculous at the time, but I wonder how Obama feels about this maddening comparison now.

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In light of events in the past 72 hours, a lot of this looks ridiculous now.

Can we dismiss Reverend Wright as a crank or a demagogue? Yes we can, no irony intended. Those of us who were shocked and appalled by those first clips of Wright’s sermons were right, and Barack Obama, and all of those who accused us of judging Wright unfairly, were wrong.

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118 Responses to Obama Attempts Damage Control – Update: FA Readers Called It Yesterday – Update: Geraghty “”a lot of this looks ridiculous now”

  1. stix1972 says: 101

    Not the same as Obnamassiah’s preacher REv Wright. McaCain did not go to his church for 20 yars. A little bit of difference there.

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  2. sky55110 says: 102

    McCain accepted his support in a very public way knowing what he stood for… even called him his spiritual guide…
    But you give McCain a pass????
    sorry guilt by association plays in here… same game different person.

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  3. Scott says: 103

    Who married Sen McCain, baptized his kids, and served on his campaign spiritual advisory committee?

    Nah, sorry Sky, but your comparison would be better to Rev Jackson or Rev Sharpton. Rev Wright is in a class of his own. There is no excuse for people of his ilk.

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  4. Aye Chihuahua says: 104

    “… even called him his spiritual guide…”

    That, Sir, is a bold-faced lie.

    Of course, that is not surprising considering the source.

    You would benefit greatly from a review of the facts.

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  5. sky55110 says: 105

    excuuuuuuuuuse me “called him a spiritual guide” that would be a quote…

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  6. Aye Chihuahua says: 106

    Yes, that’s accurate.

    He called him “a spiritual guide”.

    One of the first rules you should know about debating is that when you have to LIE in order to support your position, you’ve already lost the argument.

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  7. stix1972 says: 107

    Unlike “Spiritual Mentor” or somone he gets advice from on political matters.
    Did he marry him to his wife, baptise his children, did McCain give thousands of dollars to his church. And Barry got the newsletters that had Hamas propaganda in it from his own church.

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  8. Scott says: 108

    “Of course, that is not surprising considering the source.”
    Explain or retract or be deleted

    I deliberately didn’t put it in quotes. The fact of the matter is, a person’s pastor is their spiritual guide. He can deny it all he wants, but if a pastor, reverend, priest, rabbi, or imam isn’t a spiritual guide, then what are they, and why listen to em?

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  9. Aye Chihuahua says: 109

    Scott,

    I think I may have misunderstood your statement above:

    “Explain or retract or be deleted”

    If that was directed at me please let me know.

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  10. sky55110 says: 110

    hamas propaganda????? that sounds like propaganda

    and excuuuuuuuuuuse me Aye for missing one word…..
    but like you say words matter… so here is McCain calling this nut bag “a spiritual guide”
    as he accepts his support… But you give McCain a pass????
    sorry guilt by association plays in here… same game different candidate.

    Why is the MSM giving McCain a free pass here??? is it because they are really the “corporate media” and they favor McCain???

    http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/38133-mccain-s-spiritual-guide-wants-america-to-destroy-islam

    by the way he accepted support of Haggee too another nut case preacher.

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  11. Scott says: 111

    Thanks Aye, I thought you were referring to my comments. LOL, gotta love the email voice. No harm or foul.

    Look, all, when it comes to the Wright gig or any wacko affiliations to a candidate, what matters is the depth of the candidate’s reflection or parity with the wacko. Does McCain really buy into one guy’s dogma or another? I doubt the Maverick does. Does Obama? It seems he more of a panderer than anything else (but I can be called “bitter” in my disheartened views of Sen Obama). The whole thing is a distraction from what really matters: economy, war, and America’s future. Can McCain or Obama make the American economy boom with oil skyrocketing and looking to skyrocket more with numerous international crisis’ re oil developing? I’m skeptical-particularly given the power that the WH has over the US economy…or lack of power is a better description. Can Obama talk his way to pacifying Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, and Al Queda? Yeah, right. Can McCain scare them to peace and pacification? Doubt it, but at least the fiery little veteran can deter them for a while and make them think twice.

    The world sits on the precipice of an incredibly explosive moment not very dissimilar to the pre-American Revolutionary war period or the time before WWI, WWII, or before the Cuban Missile Crisis. This time, I believe it’s a challenge between the leaders of civilization and the leaders of death cults preaching Islamic martydom. Can the leaders of civilization find it within themselves to identify, recognize, and address the threat, or will civilization’s leaders seek personal power and blow off anything else that doesn’t support their power positions?

    Reverend Wright, or Jackson or Sharpton or any from the right too all just serve as distractions from bigger problems, harder problems, scarier problems that we’d rather not think about let alone plan to confront or even dare to confront.

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  12. Aye Chihuahua says: 112

    Scott,

    No problem.

    I refreshed the thread and saw your response and said “Wait a second….how did I offend Scott”.

    I typed out a brief response to you, posted it, and then realized that maybe you were not even talking to me. So I edited it.

    Sky,

    Again, I will remind you that words matter. You have a bad habit of misinterpreting, adding, and deleting words where they matter most. This most recent incident is a perfect example. “My spiritual adviser” carries an entirely different meaning and connotation than the actual quote.

    Either by accident or by design that habit is misleading and/or deceitful.

    As I have told you before, you will be challenged here when you engage in that sort of behavior. This is not an echo chamber.

    I do find it rather interesting that you never insert/delete/misinterpret words in a way that would make the Obamessiah look bad.

    Hmmm…. I wonder why that is.

    Personally, I have a hard time believing it is accidental.

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  13. MataHarley says: 113

    While everyone battles it out over Wright/Obama vs various Christian pastors’/McCain support, I’m going to take the opinion of one who doesn’t give a flying fart about the associations themselves.

    What I *do* care about is if those associations have permeated the candidate’s opinions and thought patterns enough to influence policy.

    Obama and Michelle have aptly demonstrated, by their own words, that they believe this country has shafted them and others because of race. BHO himself forms policy based on correcting this perceived “shaft”.

    And this, in a nutshell, is the victim mentality preached by Wright and ilk to such great success. Firmly embedded and embodied in the man who would be POTUS and his My “Fair Weather” First Lady. Did this come from Wright? Who knows, and who cares. What is important is that they share his victim mentality. And they have raised their children to believe the same.

    Barack: “… your dreams do not have to come at the expense of my dreams”

    Barack: “In the white community, the path to a more perfect union means acknowledging that what ails the African-American community does not just exist in the minds of black people; that the legacy of discrimination – and current incidents of discrimination, while less overt than in the past – are real and must be addressed. Not just with words, but with deeds.”

    Michelle: “For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change.”

    Michelle: “We should be at a point in time right now when every child in this nation, regardless of their race or their gender or their parents’ political party or their station in life or their region, they should be able to dream huge dreams for themselves.”

    …….. I ask this. Just who is stopping anyone in this country from success, or from dreaming these “huge dreams” for themselves? The govt? The nation Michelle so blames, yet to the same owes her own privileged success?

    As long as the nation’s leadership continues to address and treat we citizens as victims and places limitations on success (i.e. *too* rich)…

    … as long as DNC candidates continue to promote Marxist notions of “From each according to their ability, to each according to their need” – i.e. the divide between rich and poor must be corrected…

    … we will do nothing but destroy the spirit of achievement in America, and nuture more demanding victims as the next generation of leaders.

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  14. Aye Chihuahua says: 114

    The NY Times acknowledges the Obamessiah’s Muslim birth.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/12/opinion/12luttwak.html?_r=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin

    Obama proven to be a liar once again.

    Lefty twitching and twisting in 3,2,1…..

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  15. sky55110 says: 115

    Aye Aye Aye:

    he was not raised Muslim.. end of story… go away with your BS

    Senator Obama is not a Muslim. He chose to become a Christian, and indeed has written convincingly to explain how he arrived at his choice and how important his Christian faith is to him.

    end of story…

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  16. Aye Chihuahua says: 116

    Predictably, you failed to read the article.

    You only pulled out the lines that suited your agenda and missed the entire point. Isn’t that what you lefties call “cherry picking”?

    ***

    Senator Obama may see himself as a Christian but the Muslims do not.

    Not raised Muslim?

    Really?

    Can you prove that?

    I can and have proven otherwise.

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  17. sky55110 says: 117

    i don’t think you can…… 1-3rd grade… attended Catholic School… then a public school….
    so when did this happen.. before 1st grade??? do you remember before first grade???

    are you relying on Daniel Pipes????? he really slings the crap….

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  18. Henry says: 118

    WHEN WILL THIS BREAKOUT? AT THE CONVENTION IN DENVER? . . . . DURING THE PRES. CAMPAIGN? THE NOVEMBER ELECTION?, OR THE JANUARY INAUGURATION?

    Take a listen to this bilingual audio from LaKalle Miami radio . . . . . . You be the judge as to the tone of credibility in the tone of voice of the subject being interviewed!

    http://www.enriqueyjoe.com/LARRY_SINCLAIR_.shtml

    LARRY SINCLAIR ON E&J SHOW (STRONG LANGUAGE) LISTEN TO AUDIO

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