But John McCain will get a free pass from the media because he is a “Straight Talker” who cannot be bought. And I know that makes him no different from the Democratic Candidates, I just wonder about the fact that our supposedly “tough” reporters fawn all over him. They also do it to a lesser degree with Barak Obama, and go in a negative direction with Hillary Clinton (even when she doesn’t deserve it (which does happen occasionally, but you could never tell it from the press).

It used to be that media bias could be categorized as “Liberal” or “Conservative”. And, while you still have your FoxNewses out there, now it appears that reporters will fall over for anyone who is “someone they would like to have a beer with”. (to quote my favorite villian” Chris Mathews).

In that kind of environment, those who supposedly report the news, instead of being “Left” or “Right” become just plain old gullible.

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McCain is a felon!He stole from  older americans and made himself rich in the Savings & Loan blunder in the late 80′s. Check his voting record!  It’s closer to Obama & Clinton than a Republican. Watch old video of the Amnesty battle last summer. He made it very clear he didn’t care what the people of his state wanted. It was what “He” wanted.  He is above all… Face it! There are 3 Democrats – All Socialists – Running for President in 2008!

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Re: " make your own way, don’t rely on government to do it for you."

Conservatives LOVE Conservative President George W. Bush, who backed 100% the largest increase in a domestic entitlements since Lyndon Johnson. 

Of course that was, as always DIFFERENT, since I notice that all the complaints here about government giveaways are directed at Democratic politicians. 

(Of course now that I have pointed it out, the standard Conservative, "of course we disagree with Republicans….") line will be trotted out as the usual disclaimer.  My point is, and has been, that no Conservative will EVER start their complaints about "Big Government" talking about Republican accountability.  Conservatives will ALWAYS finger the Democrats first, then bring in a token, one line, comment about "Republicans too" when called on it.

That is why I assert that Conservatives, unlike Liberals who have defected (Nader) from party loyalty, are nothing but shills for the Republican party.  Now and forever.

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Re: “So, does that mean that my Federally-guaranteed VA home loan has me ’suckling at her leathern teat?’ ”
Accourding to “luva the scissors” you’re next for dinner.

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Re: “Why doesn’t “personal responsibility” extend up to the bigwigs who made the disastrous decision(s) at Bear Stearns and the other financial houses that have gobbled up $260 billion in special, low-interest Fed loans since December? ”

Because the Banks and Brokerage houses have given traditionally more than 75% of their political contribtuions to Republicans. that is why. And the “independent” John McCain is not about to endanger that gravy train (And, yes I fully admit that Democrats can, and are, bought as well. But we are talking about the “independent” John McCain here, who can’t be bought by anyone, remember?)

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And to add my opinion, “yes” we are going to have to shell out borrowed federal money to bail out most of these financial institutins, while their super rich executives walk away with fortunes. Because they have managed to set up a situation where they can hold our economy hostage, and too many people will suffer if the fund managers are not bailed out of their malfesance. There is, and will be no accountability here: At least not at the levels where this disaster was created. And, by the way, every conservative I know is also outraged by this.

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Sweet mother government, let me suckle at your leathern teat!

So, does that mean that my Federally-guaranteed VA home loan has me ‘suckling at her leathern teat?’  (That guarantee has never been at risk of invocation, incidentally…)

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Sweet mother government, let me suckle at your leathern teat!

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If you listen to McCain, he told two very different stories in his recent speech on the mortgage crisis.  To the bankers, he said that any government intervention should be directed solely toward "preventing systemic risk that would endanger the entire financial system and the economy."  To me, that says, "don’t worry; if you screw up badly enough, we’ll be there to bail you out."  (It should be noted that the Bear Stearns bailout was specifically discussed in terms of systemic risk, e.g. "what happens if we don’t?" and the ‘ripple effect.’)  To the individuals, he basically preached personal responsibility, to the point of citing people who work second jobs or forgo vacations.  Other than that, he gave a few nebulous calls for meetings and "industry action" to clean things up.

Why doesn’t "personal responsibility" extend up to the bigwigs who made the disastrous decision(s) at Bear Stearns and the other financial houses that have gobbled up $260 billion in special, low-interest Fed loans since December?  (Oh, and keep in mind that the Fed invoked a Depression-era law to extend those loans beyond banks to ‘financial institutions’ like the brokerage houses.)

I’m torn on this one, to be honest.  Speculators are a big chunk of the group being hit with potential foreclosures (one media report suggested that 45% of mortgages in foreclosure or delinquency are NOT tied to primary residences), and those folks shouldn’t get a dime.  (But…the big financial houses were all speculating too, so there’s an inconsistency there.)   What can government reasonably do to those in genuine need?   Well, if we’re going to issue loan guarantees to business, why not some smaller guarantees (say, half the value of the loan) for individuals? 

It’s something of a Pandora’s Box scenario, but the problem is that we’ve already cracked the lid…

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You can talk political theory all you want, but when it comes time to pull the lever in the voting booth, there are going to be lots and lots of people in mortgage trouble who will be looking for a hand (or a handout, or however you want to see it).  I understand your point–it is their own damn fault–but since when do people generally say, "Well, I guess I’d better take my medicine on this one"?

You can laugh, Curt, but the candidate who at least pretends to have some ideas along these lines is going to pick up a lot of votes from people who aren’t as stringently libertarian as you might hope.

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Re: "Vote the Democrat Party…the party of the dependent,"

Then again, if you are the CEO of Bear Sterns, paying yourself $10 million+ a year and run the firm into the ground through bad business decision, the Republican White House appears to be pretty good at aaking care of you as well.

Or is that DIFFERENT?

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There are better candidates, you just have to look a little further than the MSM to find them.   And the only way they’re going to make it into office, to try and make a difference, is through our support.   If we can’t do this, i.e., kick those out of office that have forgot who and what it is they were elected into office for, then I see little or no hope for this country.

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Best bit I’ve seen so far was when MSNBC Foreign Affair correspondent Andrea Mitchell did a bit on how bad the economy is.  She’s married to Alan Greenspan who ran the economy forever.  Did she talk about how his promotion of sub-prime lending did this?  Nope.  Did she talk about Foreign Affairs?  Nope.  Then…why was she reporting on this?  Oh yeah, that’s right.  MSNBC, fair and balanced mouthpiece for the American Socialist Party.  Sorry, forgot

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