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	<title>Comments on: Saddam’s Files, They Show Terror Plots, But Raise New Questions About Some Media Claims</title>
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		<title>By: Mark E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still a great post.</description>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; New Year&#8217;s Best/Worst/Predictions from FA Authors!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; New Year&#8217;s Best/Worst/Predictions from FA Authors!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pentagon Report Confirms Saddam&#8217;s Regime Supported al Qaida Saddam&#8217;s Files, They Show Terror Plots, But Raise New Questions About Some Media Claims [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might be a few more days of waiting for that new post Mata.  I got some detainee transcripts (declassified) from Gitmo, and I want to read through, compare what they say with the Iraq docs, my timeline, and some notes.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Might be a few more days of waiting for that new post Mata.  I got some detainee transcripts (declassified) from Gitmo, and I want to read through, compare what they say with the Iraq docs, my timeline, and some notes.   </p>
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		<title>By: Friends of Mark Fuhrman - A lie told often enough becomes the truth. &#187; BREAKING - Iraqi Documents Show al-Qaida Ties</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friends of Mark Fuhrman - A lie told often enough becomes the truth. &#187; BREAKING - Iraqi Documents Show al-Qaida Ties</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 05:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why aren&#8217;t other MSM outlets following the WSJ&#8217;s lead?  BTW Scott now has the blow by blow update at Flopping [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Curt sez

&lt;blockquote&gt;Bush and the WH has done its best to get it out but the MSM ignores it. With bloggers, we only have so much pull. The MSM ignores us also since they view us as nothing more then pajama clad, unsophisticated, amateurs….they are the holders of the key you see.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Perhaps I missed something this past week, Curt.  I didn&#039;t hear the WH make apeep on this latest report.  Instead the media lie from the start was that the WH and Pentagon were trying to hide it by not making it available online.  Uh huh....  McCain also ignored it, which doesn&#039;t bode well either.  

But I shall disagree.  The power of blogs (and talk radio) to force media response has grown immeasurably.  When blogs talk up something enmass,  it eventually makes it&#039;s way to the talking heads shows.  So my suggestion is to keep the report very much alive and pertinent... as you are doing.

Uh, Scott?  Choir here... :0)   I have an entire section of my blog devoted to the category of &quot;media rants&quot;.  I furiously typed out my own &quot;rant&quot; on the 13th of March on that report, livid and frothing at the mouth by lies in the coverage.

and I&#039;m a&#039;waiting for that new post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Mr. Curt sez</p>
<blockquote><p>Bush and the WH has done its best to get it out but the MSM ignores it. With bloggers, we only have so much pull. The MSM ignores us also since they view us as nothing more then pajama clad, unsophisticated, amateurs….they are the holders of the key you see.</p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps I missed something this past week, Curt.  I didn&#8217;t hear the WH make apeep on this latest report.  Instead the media lie from the start was that the WH and Pentagon were trying to hide it by not making it available online.  Uh huh&#8230;.  McCain also ignored it, which doesn&#8217;t bode well either.  </p>
<p>But I shall disagree.  The power of blogs (and talk radio) to force media response has grown immeasurably.  When blogs talk up something enmass,  it eventually makes it&#8217;s way to the talking heads shows.  So my suggestion is to keep the report very much alive and pertinent&#8230; as you are doing.</p>
<p>Uh, Scott?  Choir here&#8230; :0)   I have an entire section of my blog devoted to the category of &#8220;media rants&#8221;.  I furiously typed out my own &#8220;rant&#8221; on the 13th of March on that report, livid and frothing at the mouth by lies in the coverage.</p>
<p>and I&#8217;m a&#8217;waiting for that new post.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Eichenlaub</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Eichenlaub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.weeklystandard.com/Weblogs/TWSFP/TWSFPView.asp#5114
Tom Joscelyn just did a pretty good smackdown of this NEWSWEEK piece here.</description>
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Tom Joscelyn just did a pretty good smackdown of this NEWSWEEK piece here.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mata, they all make my skin crawl is a better way of describing it.  What gets under my skin is when leftist lemmings take their half-quote talking points and treat them as full truths not the half truths they are.  United, this nation can put men on the moon for fun and make it look easy.  Deliberately fractured, and we can&#039;t get a convoy of trucks to a flooded city like New Orleans given 5 days warning and a week of effort after the fact.

Curt&#039;s deadnuts on the money.  The WH should be reading FA and the rest of the blogs (as well as the report!), and shouting it from the rooftops!  There is no spinning the final conclusions of the report:
1) Saddam was and did work with radical islamic terrorists
2) Saddam&#039;s regime did work with groups that were part of the Al Queda network of terrorist groups before the invasion
3) Saddam was a terrorist threat (conclusion V in vol1 of the report btw)

Just wait....Curt and a few others know I found something interesting in the report, and I&#039;m gonna post it soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Mata, they all make my skin crawl is a better way of describing it.  What gets under my skin is when leftist lemmings take their half-quote talking points and treat them as full truths not the half truths they are.  United, this nation can put men on the moon for fun and make it look easy.  Deliberately fractured, and we can&#8217;t get a convoy of trucks to a flooded city like New Orleans given 5 days warning and a week of effort after the fact.</p>
<p>Curt&#8217;s deadnuts on the money.  The WH should be reading FA and the rest of the blogs (as well as the report!), and shouting it from the rooftops!  There is no spinning the final conclusions of the report:<br />
1) Saddam was and did work with radical islamic terrorists<br />
2) Saddam&#8217;s regime did work with groups that were part of the Al Queda network of terrorist groups before the invasion<br />
3) Saddam was a terrorist threat (conclusion V in vol1 of the report btw)</p>
<p>Just wait&#8230;.Curt and a few others know I found something interesting in the report, and I&#8217;m gonna post it soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The WH should be shouting it from the roof tops. Bloggers should be making sure it gets enough attention in cyberspace to force major networks into broadcast time.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Gotta disagree Mata...Bush and the WH has done its best to get it out but the MSM ignores it.  With bloggers, we only have so much pull.  The MSM ignores us also since they view us as nothing more then pajama clad, unsophisticated, amateurs....they are the holders of the key you see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>The WH should be shouting it from the roof tops. Bloggers should be making sure it gets enough attention in cyberspace to force major networks into broadcast time.</p></blockquote>
<p>Gotta disagree Mata&#8230;Bush and the WH has done its best to get it out but the MSM ignores it.  With bloggers, we only have so much pull.  The MSM ignores us also since they view us as nothing more then pajama clad, unsophisticated, amateurs&#8230;.they are the holders of the key you see.</p>
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		<title>By: MataHarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>MataHarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This one really got under your skin, eh Scott?  Remind me never to get to that &quot;woodshed&quot; status with you.  :0)

I swear, nothing about the media&#039;s blatant lack of objectivity, and aversion to research, that surprises me anymore.  

What has me scratching my head is complacency by the Bush WH and conservative bloggers.  The WH should be shouting it from the roof tops.  Bloggers should be making sure it gets enough attention in cyberspace to force major networks into broadcast time.  

But noooo... conservatives say &quot;we knew this&quot;, and pass it by with nary a glance.  They fear any attempt to reverse years of  media misindoctrination.  Instead they all focus on the Hillary/Obama soap.   Very disheartening.  No fight in conservative America anymore.  Now if the Ace&#039;rs could replace our lazy GOP in Congress, we might get somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>This one really got under your skin, eh Scott?  Remind me never to get to that &#8220;woodshed&#8221; status with you.  :0)</p>
<p>I swear, nothing about the media&#8217;s blatant lack of objectivity, and aversion to research, that surprises me anymore.  </p>
<p>What has me scratching my head is complacency by the Bush WH and conservative bloggers.  The WH should be shouting it from the roof tops.  Bloggers should be making sure it gets enough attention in cyberspace to force major networks into broadcast time.  </p>
<p>But noooo&#8230; conservatives say &#8220;we knew this&#8221;, and pass it by with nary a glance.  They fear any attempt to reverse years of  media misindoctrination.  Instead they all focus on the Hillary/Obama soap.   Very disheartening.  No fight in conservative America anymore.  Now if the Ace&#8217;rs could replace our lazy GOP in Congress, we might get somewhere.</p>
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		<description>It seems talk radio is the new dinosaur media, as they are just now finally picking up on what Scott and Curt red flagged right away when the McClatchy article came out ahead of the Report release.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120631495290958169.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Wall Street Journal&lt;/a&gt; is also now talking about it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>It seems talk radio is the new dinosaur media, as they are just now finally picking up on what Scott and Curt red flagged right away when the McClatchy article came out ahead of the Report release.</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120631495290958169.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks" rel="nofollow">The Wall Street Journal</a> is also now talking about it.</p>
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