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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/03/18/obama-admits-lying-in-philadelphia-speech/#comment-37520</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is pandering to black people!! 
Obama forgot to mention while going on about his white grandmother who worked on a bomber assembly line at Fort Leavenworth.  He forgot tto mention evidently not during a war, that white granny was a Bank Vice President (Like Mr Drysdale on Beverly Hillbillys)...they make huge money...hardly so humble as he portrays.  His black father and the Kenya thing, Obama&#039;s father was dead by the time he was two..I doubt he even knew him........and Obama had never been to Kenya until the 1980&#039;s 
The poor old black granny who lives in a hut in Kenya..was one of his fathers 3 wives the third one...she wasn&#039;t even related to him.   She is the one Sarah  who lied about the muslim thing saying she wasn&#039;t a muslim she was christian!!....only it had already been in a Times article that she claimed in her own words she was a devout muslim.  
So I agree with the hiding of this muslim part of his life in Indonesia...that is where his memories and formative years would be  living with his mother and stepfather (a muslim)  from 6yrs to 10yrs old when he went to the Wahabbist Madrassa, and then moving to Hawaii with his white mothers parents after 10 through high school.   So why all the talk about Kenya...is just to relate to black people for political purposes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Obama is pandering to black people!!<br />
Obama forgot to mention while going on about his white grandmother who worked on a bomber assembly line at Fort Leavenworth.  He forgot tto mention evidently not during a war, that white granny was a Bank Vice President (Like Mr Drysdale on Beverly Hillbillys)&#8230;they make huge money&#8230;hardly so humble as he portrays.  His black father and the Kenya thing, Obama&#8217;s father was dead by the time he was two..I doubt he even knew him&#8230;&#8230;..and Obama had never been to Kenya until the 1980&#8242;s<br />
The poor old black granny who lives in a hut in Kenya..was one of his fathers 3 wives the third one&#8230;she wasn&#8217;t even related to him.   She is the one Sarah  who lied about the muslim thing saying she wasn&#8217;t a muslim she was christian!!&#8230;.only it had already been in a Times article that she claimed in her own words she was a devout muslim.<br />
So I agree with the hiding of this muslim part of his life in Indonesia&#8230;that is where his memories and formative years would be  living with his mother and stepfather (a muslim)  from 6yrs to 10yrs old when he went to the Wahabbist Madrassa, and then moving to Hawaii with his white mothers parents after 10 through high school.   So why all the talk about Kenya&#8230;is just to relate to black people for political purposes</p>
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		<title>By: The Baltimore Reporter</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/03/18/obama-admits-lying-in-philadelphia-speech/#comment-29091</link>
		<dc:creator>The Baltimore Reporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 03:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bloggers brought it up, Mike even labeled it what it was&#8230;a lie. As Rick pointed out, the man can be deceitful when the times require [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ChrisG</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/03/18/obama-admits-lying-in-philadelphia-speech/#comment-27941</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 04:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Or maybe just anti-black hatred?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I may have been gone a few days Doc, but in light of your quote above, you might want to rethink your above post.  Also, read Mikes original post.  I believe it answers your question in the first two quotes from Obama.</description>
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<p>I may have been gone a few days Doc, but in light of your quote above, you might want to rethink your above post.  Also, read Mikes original post.  I believe it answers your question in the first two quotes from Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Washboard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc Washboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/03/18/obama-admits-lying-in-philadelphia-speech/#comment-27892</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice try Doc. But if a &quot;Doc&quot; can&#039;t cure a LAME analogy, there is no hope.

You want to be the class fool, fine by me.

You have my vote.

Your next insult on this thread will be deleted. Have fun writing the Huffington Post and telling them what a hero you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Nice try Doc. But if a &#8220;Doc&#8221; can&#8217;t cure a LAME analogy, there is no hope.</p>
<p>You want to be the class fool, fine by me.</p>
<p>You have my vote.</p>
<p>Your next insult on this thread will be deleted. Have fun writing the Huffington Post and telling them what a hero you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Washboard</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/03/18/obama-admits-lying-in-philadelphia-speech/#comment-27890</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Washboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
I’d be interested in you telling me which of the two sentences you’ve juxtaposed up above is the lie.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Your continued silence on this issue says volumes about your inability to think your way out of a wet paper bag.

Remember:  the reason that the guy snarled, &quot;I don&#039;t got to show you no stinkin&#039; badges,&quot; is because he had no badges to show.  A lot of what you post here has the same hollow bluster to it.</description>
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I’d be interested in you telling me which of the two sentences you’ve juxtaposed up above is the lie.
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<p>Your continued silence on this issue says volumes about your inability to think your way out of a wet paper bag.</p>
<p>Remember:  the reason that the guy snarled, &#8220;I don&#8217;t got to show you no stinkin&#8217; badges,&#8221; is because he had no badges to show.  A lot of what you post here has the same hollow bluster to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;For the eleventeenth time, I encourage you to find out. &quot; Sorry Doc, but you&#039;ve shown a REMARKABLE ability to ignore anything that the rest of us have learned. Are you SO completely ill-equipped to get the answers to these questions?

I PERSONALLY confronted John McCain with the weak points of his appeal to conservatives. I would think you would want to do the same for Obama, but obviously you do not care.

Transparently, you&#039;ll swallow the Kool Aid you are served.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&#8220;For the eleventeenth time, I encourage you to find out. &#8221; Sorry Doc, but you&#8217;ve shown a REMARKABLE ability to ignore anything that the rest of us have learned. Are you SO completely ill-equipped to get the answers to these questions?</p>
<p>I PERSONALLY confronted John McCain with the weak points of his appeal to conservatives. I would think you would want to do the same for Obama, but obviously you do not care.</p>
<p>Transparently, you&#8217;ll swallow the Kool Aid you are served.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Washboard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc Washboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
I would think that you would be eager to ask the question: “What did Obama hear and when did he hear it” but I don’t imagine you really care about the answer.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For the eleventeenth time, I encourage you to find out.  For the sake of the overall political discourse, however, I wish that you&#039;d stick to the facts as you do it.  It may very well be that Obama is lying his ass off about this and every other topic he addresses.  He probably is; he&#039;s a politician.  But just taking two quotes, sticking them side by side and calling them evidence of lying--when, taken together, they are not proof of lying--is intellectually dishonest.  

It&#039;s like one of those teachers who suspends a kid for something he knows the kid didn&#039;t do, but he rationalizes it by telling himself, &quot;Well, I&#039;m sure that the kid did things in the past that I didn&#039;t catch, so I&#039;m not really doing anything wrong.&quot;

I&#039;d be interested in you telling me which of the two sentences you&#039;ve juxtaposed up above is the lie.

In other news, I didn&#039;t vote for Clinton in my primary, either.  What conceivable part of what I&#039;ve written shows that I&#039;ve &quot;sipped the Clinton Kool Aid?&quot;  The part about where I chastise you for your Obama Derangement Syndrome?  In one thread, you take me from mindlessly following Obama to mindlessly following Clinton. The very suggestion shows that you either know nothing at all about the Clinton/Obama dynamic, or you are another one of those Internet scribblers who chooses a catchphrase from a list of talking points--in this case, &quot;Sipping the Kool-Aid&quot;--wedges it into your post, and calls it a day. Maybe you should think before you hit the &quot;send&quot; button, MA.

Oh, and you&#039;re going to ignore my petty insults?  Big of you, pal, after what you&#039;ve called me here and elsewhere.  You&#039;re a real standup guy.</description>
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I would think that you would be eager to ask the question: “What did Obama hear and when did he hear it” but I don’t imagine you really care about the answer.
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<p>For the eleventeenth time, I encourage you to find out.  For the sake of the overall political discourse, however, I wish that you&#8217;d stick to the facts as you do it.  It may very well be that Obama is lying his ass off about this and every other topic he addresses.  He probably is; he&#8217;s a politician.  But just taking two quotes, sticking them side by side and calling them evidence of lying&#8211;when, taken together, they are not proof of lying&#8211;is intellectually dishonest.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s like one of those teachers who suspends a kid for something he knows the kid didn&#8217;t do, but he rationalizes it by telling himself, &#8220;Well, I&#8217;m sure that the kid did things in the past that I didn&#8217;t catch, so I&#8217;m not really doing anything wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested in you telling me which of the two sentences you&#8217;ve juxtaposed up above is the lie.</p>
<p>In other news, I didn&#8217;t vote for Clinton in my primary, either.  What conceivable part of what I&#8217;ve written shows that I&#8217;ve &#8220;sipped the Clinton Kool Aid?&#8221;  The part about where I chastise you for your Obama Derangement Syndrome?  In one thread, you take me from mindlessly following Obama to mindlessly following Clinton. The very suggestion shows that you either know nothing at all about the Clinton/Obama dynamic, or you are another one of those Internet scribblers who chooses a catchphrase from a list of talking points&#8211;in this case, &#8220;Sipping the Kool-Aid&#8221;&#8211;wedges it into your post, and calls it a day. Maybe you should think before you hit the &#8220;send&#8221; button, MA.</p>
<p>Oh, and you&#8217;re going to ignore my petty insults?  Big of you, pal, after what you&#8217;ve called me here and elsewhere.  You&#8217;re a real standup guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You really have sipped the Clinton Kool Aid Doc. And I&#039;ll ignore your petty insults.

I would think that you would be eager to ask the question: &quot;What did Obama hear and when did he hear it&quot; but I don&#039;t imagine you really care about the answer.

You really are what we call a &quot;time waster.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>You really have sipped the Clinton Kool Aid Doc. And I&#8217;ll ignore your petty insults.</p>
<p>I would think that you would be eager to ask the question: &#8220;What did Obama hear and when did he hear it&#8221; but I don&#8217;t imagine you really care about the answer.</p>
<p>You really are what we call a &#8220;time waster.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Washboard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc Washboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The words &quot;spin&quot; and &quot;foolish&quot; apparently don&#039;t mean what you think they mean.  Could it be that you&#039;ve been blinded by Obama Derangement Syndrome?  Or maybe just anti-black hatred?  The way that you&#039;re fabricating your &quot;proof,&quot; I&#039;d guess that it is the latter.

Is this the same kind of thinking you did when you were in the Reagan Administration (if that&#039;s true)?  No wonder it was such a bowl full of losers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>The words &#8220;spin&#8221; and &#8220;foolish&#8221; apparently don&#8217;t mean what you think they mean.  Could it be that you&#8217;ve been blinded by Obama Derangement Syndrome?  Or maybe just anti-black hatred?  The way that you&#8217;re fabricating your &#8220;proof,&#8221; I&#8217;d guess that it is the latter.</p>
<p>Is this the same kind of thinking you did when you were in the Reagan Administration (if that&#8217;s true)?  No wonder it was such a bowl full of losers.</p>
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