Steve: The problems of pastor Hagee, and many other religions of today, are largely due to the apostasy, i.e., the falling away of the institutional church from the true Gospel of our Lord and Saviour, to include Wright’s church. They’ve become far to worldly.

The problem Obama has is his credibility, his judgment if you will. . . . What kind of judgment has been exercised in staying in a church like this and exposing his family to the hate tirades coming from the pulpit of Wright’s church. And if he uses such poor judgment in this small thing, how much more should you be concerned as an American, i.e., if you are an American, that he brings this kind of judgment to the White House.

No, I’d much rather seek the edorsement of a Hagee who unknowingly misleads a congregation, than a Wright that knowingly fans the fires of hatred to and of a congregation for their fellow man.

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However Candidate mcCain actively sought out his endorsement for president

Source please.

Only because you have a nasty habit of talking out of your ass down there in Mommy’s basement.

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Curt: Do we need to take up a collection for Philly Steve to have an eye exam? In comment #14 I used LARGE TYPE to make that exact same point.

And as for “I will both complimentary and negative things about whomever the Democratic Party nominates. Not one single Conservative here will be allowed to do so” perhaps he’s not been paying attention. We’ve all been among McCain’s sharpest critics and McCain PERSONALLY told me that if my “blogging friends” didn’t like his position on x,y or z we shouldn’t vote for him the primaries and we did not.

Though most of us pledged to vote for the eventual GOP nominee and I intend to honor that pledge but not even Wordsmithistan the enforcer will keep me from bashing McCain when he makes a mess of things or says something with which I disagree.

And as for Philly Steve’s vaunted objectivity in criticizing his parties candidates, I’m reminded of this advertising classic:

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Same reply to you as in the last thread you commented on:

Hagee said “God damn America?”

Nope.

Is McCain a member of his church, nope.
Was McCain married by him, nope
Was McCain’s children christened by him, nope.

Answer is yes on all accounts for Obama and Wright tho.

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Re: “Pastor Hagee has his faults as well.”

However Candidate mcCain actively sought out his endorsement for president, stood on the podium shoulder-to-shourlder with him, but Conservatives consider it only “minor”. And got a free pass for it from ever Conservative on this site.

That is bacuse you are 100% loyal Republican who, I predicted months ago, would lock arms with whomever the Republicans nominated. This despite all those avowed “I’ll stay home if McCain….” posts. And I was subjected to torrents of abuse when I pointed this out.

From now through November, we will see 100% Republican loyalty commetns from the Conservatives here, like a stream from the White House/McCain campiagn talking points. Then, come January 2009, we will start to hear the “McCain is no Conservative” chant as Conservative, to a person, pretend that they never voted for McCain.

I will both complimentary and negative things about whomever the Democratic Party nominates. Not one single Conservative here will be allowed to do so, other than in the most mild form (“While I may have one or two tiny differences…”)

That is not “hate” like the Hillary Clinton thread. That is just a prediction.

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Ditto buddy. I’ve always enjoyed your posts. Sorry if I was unclear. I’ll try to improve on that.

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Chet: If I misunderstood you, I apologize. Something you won’t get from a lib.

I’m not a fan of McCain either, but I will defend him when he is wrongfully attacked.

You did not do that and again, my apology.

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Sorry Mike, you’ve lost me. Other than in response to your post, I haven’t mentioned McCain once today. As far as a moral equivalence argument, I don’t think there’s any moral equivalence between Wright or Hagee, and I didn’t indicate there was, other than to say Hagee has problems/faults of his own. Which is a seperate argument in and of itself.

As far as McCain is concerned, I’m not a fan, and don’t proclaim to be, and certainly won’t be voting for him come election time, as he’s to moderate for my liking.

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“Now that I’ve brought you up to snuff. . . .”

I think I’ve snuffed that moral equvialence argument already Chet. There’s no reason to bring McCain into this other than to water down any accountability for Obama’s 20 year relationship with this hatemonger.

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My remark “It still speaks to his jugdment. . . . . Something that must concern you as an American,” was in response to Philly Steve, in regards to Obama, that it speaks of his (Obama’s judgment).

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