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		<title>By: Igor R.</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/03/05/what-a-shocking-poll/#comment-22920</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the time the newly-energized Hillary is done with Hussein even the young idealists will turn on him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>By the time the newly-energized Hillary is done with Hussein even the young idealists will turn on him.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/03/05/what-a-shocking-poll/#comment-22911</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No big surprise here. And, it wouldn&#039;t be surprising if this poll was recycled from 2000 and 2004.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>No big surprise here. And, it wouldn&#8217;t be surprising if this poll was recycled from 2000 and 2004.</p>
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		<title>By: Philadelphia Steve</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/03/05/what-a-shocking-poll/#comment-22902</link>
		<dc:creator>Philadelphia Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never said that Democrats are innocent:  Claiming that one&#039;s own political party is incapable of sin is the province or Republicans.

What I did say, or at least imply, was that anything that came from Senator Clinton&#039;s campaign is miniscule compared to the smears that will come from Conservatives in the Fall.  The party that spread rumours about John McCain fathering illegitimate (African American) children after he dared to challenge George W. Bush will not stop at anything when it comes time to aim their mud throwers at those outside of The Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I never said that Democrats are innocent:  Claiming that one&#8217;s own political party is incapable of sin is the province or Republicans.</p>
<p>What I did say, or at least imply, was that anything that came from Senator Clinton&#8217;s campaign is miniscule compared to the smears that will come from Conservatives in the Fall.  The party that spread rumours about John McCain fathering illegitimate (African American) children after he dared to challenge George W. Bush will not stop at anything when it comes time to aim their mud throwers at those outside of The Party.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidE</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/03/05/what-a-shocking-poll/#comment-22897</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding my previous comment,  there are certainly more 65+ people in the country now than there are 18-29 year olds or 30-39 year olds. So they are going to make up more of the vote. For example, life expectancy of women is about 83. There are more 50-64 year olds (baby boom generation) than 18-29 year old citizens of this country.  

If age weren&#039;t a factor in voting patterns, then this wouldn&#039;t be a problem. But age has been a major factor in the Obama/Clinton race and would be in the event of an Obama/McCain race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Regarding my previous comment,  there are certainly more 65+ people in the country now than there are 18-29 year olds or 30-39 year olds. So they are going to make up more of the vote. For example, life expectancy of women is about 83. There are more 50-64 year olds (baby boom generation) than 18-29 year old citizens of this country.  </p>
<p>If age weren&#8217;t a factor in voting patterns, then this wouldn&#8217;t be a problem. But age has been a major factor in the Obama/Clinton race and would be in the event of an Obama/McCain race.</p>
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		<title>By: (the other) Scott</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/03/05/what-a-shocking-poll/#comment-22880</link>
		<dc:creator>(the other) Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 16:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(the first) Scott (6), you are touching on a subject that needs a lot more attention: what happens when one of the Dems win: 1/2 the party is unhappy.

Suppose Obama wins.  Will Hispanics migrate to McCain?  After all, we are assured by the media that Hispanics are Hillary&#039;s firewall, which is read: Hispanics don&#039;t like blacks.  Is it simply the racism of the Clinton campaign, or is it correct?  Obama loses a big chunk of the vote.  If the border issue is as important to Hispanics as the polls seem to think it is, then McCain already has big props with them.

Suppose Clinton wins.  Blacks are completely unhappy.  Some might even decide to vote Republican.  Most will stay home &quot;on the plantation&quot; like Hillary told them to do.  That oh-so vital under 30 vote?  Hung down and brung down.  It&#039;s just politics as usual.  The enthusiasm is gone.

It looks bad for the Dems.

Steve from Philadelphia, what a maroon you are!  You want racism and slime?  Look in the Clinton campaign.  Major case of projection here, bud.  But, hey, it&#039;s all about the narrative, right.  Fake but true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>(the first) Scott (6), you are touching on a subject that needs a lot more attention: what happens when one of the Dems win: 1/2 the party is unhappy.</p>
<p>Suppose Obama wins.  Will Hispanics migrate to McCain?  After all, we are assured by the media that Hispanics are Hillary&#8217;s firewall, which is read: Hispanics don&#8217;t like blacks.  Is it simply the racism of the Clinton campaign, or is it correct?  Obama loses a big chunk of the vote.  If the border issue is as important to Hispanics as the polls seem to think it is, then McCain already has big props with them.</p>
<p>Suppose Clinton wins.  Blacks are completely unhappy.  Some might even decide to vote Republican.  Most will stay home &#8220;on the plantation&#8221; like Hillary told them to do.  That oh-so vital under 30 vote?  Hung down and brung down.  It&#8217;s just politics as usual.  The enthusiasm is gone.</p>
<p>It looks bad for the Dems.</p>
<p>Steve from Philadelphia, what a maroon you are!  You want racism and slime?  Look in the Clinton campaign.  Major case of projection here, bud.  But, hey, it&#8217;s all about the narrative, right.  Fake but true.</p>
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		<title>By: stix1972</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/03/05/what-a-shocking-poll/#comment-22878</link>
		<dc:creator>stix1972</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 16:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He shouldbe talking about theClinton Slime Machine,  they hav already put outthe memo that Obama is a Muslim, he is unfit tobe dog catcher andevenmadehim darkerina campaign video.

You need to look to the Left for all the smears. When the Republicans produce evidence and truth about a candidate that is called being slimed, hardly.   Just look at the Swift Boats, they have not been refuted, but being Swiftboated is a bad thing.  Well , Hells Bells, I thought telling the Truth was a good thing. But not if it is about a Democrat. Because you  know they do everything for the children and never do anything wrong.  theyare complete angels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>He shouldbe talking about theClinton Slime Machine,  they hav already put outthe memo that Obama is a Muslim, he is unfit tobe dog catcher andevenmadehim darkerina campaign video.</p>
<p>You need to look to the Left for all the smears. When the Republicans produce evidence and truth about a candidate that is called being slimed, hardly.   Just look at the Swift Boats, they have not been refuted, but being Swiftboated is a bad thing.  Well , Hells Bells, I thought telling the Truth was a good thing. But not if it is about a Democrat. Because you  know they do everything for the children and never do anything wrong.  theyare complete angels.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisG</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/03/05/what-a-shocking-poll/#comment-22858</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

Looking in the mirror and projecting as usual.  It is not the &quot;GOP slime machine&quot; which has to do anything.  The Clinton and Obama &quot;slime Machines&quot; will do it for them. 

Your predictions have already happened, but not as your typical two minutes hate against conservatives wispers in your ear.  It is not the RNC that unleashed the emails/photos/insinuations, but the campaigns of Clinton and Obama tearing at each other.

Will you develope leftist &quot;amnesia&quot; (to use your own words from another post) and forget the Democratic primaries with their superdelegates/disenfranchised votes/attacks and blame it all on us &quot;evil conservatives&quot; who love to torture children?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Steve,</p>
<p>Looking in the mirror and projecting as usual.  It is not the &#8220;GOP slime machine&#8221; which has to do anything.  The Clinton and Obama &#8220;slime Machines&#8221; will do it for them. </p>
<p>Your predictions have already happened, but not as your typical two minutes hate against conservatives wispers in your ear.  It is not the RNC that unleashed the emails/photos/insinuations, but the campaigns of Clinton and Obama tearing at each other.</p>
<p>Will you develope leftist &#8220;amnesia&#8221; (to use your own words from another post) and forget the Democratic primaries with their superdelegates/disenfranchised votes/attacks and blame it all on us &#8220;evil conservatives&#8221; who love to torture children?</p>
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		<title>By: Philadelphia Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philadelphia Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take no &quot;comfort&quot; from these polls.  The GOP slime machine has not kicked into high gear yet, and we all know how effective it is.  Wait until the &quot;Obama is Osmam&quot; ads start gushing from TV&#039;s all over the country, and the internet rumours of &quot;Obama is a secret Muslim terrorist&quot; e-mails start goign out on a dialy basis.

When enough dirt flows out, some of it always sticks.  Lee Atwater knew it, and that lesson has not been lost on a single Republican since then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I take no &#8220;comfort&#8221; from these polls.  The GOP slime machine has not kicked into high gear yet, and we all know how effective it is.  Wait until the &#8220;Obama is Osmam&#8221; ads start gushing from TV&#8217;s all over the country, and the internet rumours of &#8220;Obama is a secret Muslim terrorist&#8221; e-mails start goign out on a dialy basis.</p>
<p>When enough dirt flows out, some of it always sticks.  Lee Atwater knew it, and that lesson has not been lost on a single Republican since then.</p>
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		<title>By: IndependentReason</title>
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		<dc:creator>IndependentReason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ramussen has McCain ahead daily since the NYT story.   However they also show there has been a big shift of self identified Democrats.   But that will only matter for Congress not the Presidential election. 

Nobody wins through their party votes alone.  Independents put people into office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Ramussen has McCain ahead daily since the NYT story.   However they also show there has been a big shift of self identified Democrats.   But that will only matter for Congress not the Presidential election. </p>
<p>Nobody wins through their party votes alone.  Independents put people into office.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, polls don&#039;t matter a lot right now for the Dems.  What they&#039;ve got to look forward to overcoming is the internal party divide, the complete failure of their congressional candidates (something that has only started to be touched on for their Presidential senators), and the focus on their Presidential candidates once they get around to picking one.  If it&#039;s Hillary, you can bet cash money that every single bad thing that happened in the Clinton years, every scandal, every fubar, every unflattering video and audio is gonna be brought back from hiding.  If it&#039;s Obama, he&#039;s gonna have to explain how he can be more bi-partisan and unifying than McCain despite the fact that their political records clearly show the opposite.

No matter what, 1/4 Floridians are gonna be pissed about how the DNC resolves their delegates, and that is all that is needed to give the state to a Republican.

No matter what, 1/2 Democrats is not gonna be happy with the Presidential nominee

No matter what, every Republican running to unseat a Democrat in Congress will be able to run comparison/contrast commercials showing the Democrat&#039;s 2006 promises, and their failures.

These problems grow bigger every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Look, polls don&#8217;t matter a lot right now for the Dems.  What they&#8217;ve got to look forward to overcoming is the internal party divide, the complete failure of their congressional candidates (something that has only started to be touched on for their Presidential senators), and the focus on their Presidential candidates once they get around to picking one.  If it&#8217;s Hillary, you can bet cash money that every single bad thing that happened in the Clinton years, every scandal, every fubar, every unflattering video and audio is gonna be brought back from hiding.  If it&#8217;s Obama, he&#8217;s gonna have to explain how he can be more bi-partisan and unifying than McCain despite the fact that their political records clearly show the opposite.</p>
<p>No matter what, 1/4 Floridians are gonna be pissed about how the DNC resolves their delegates, and that is all that is needed to give the state to a Republican.</p>
<p>No matter what, 1/2 Democrats is not gonna be happy with the Presidential nominee</p>
<p>No matter what, every Republican running to unseat a Democrat in Congress will be able to run comparison/contrast commercials showing the Democrat&#8217;s 2006 promises, and their failures.</p>
<p>These problems grow bigger every day.</p>
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