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	<title>Comments on: Obama Channels Defense Secretary Gates</title>
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		<title>By: ChrisG</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/03/01/obama-channels-defense-secretary-gates/comment-page-1/#comment-21971</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregory hit the nail on the head.  Most EU nations do not even have enough helo support to move their troops around for combat ops.  They rely on US assets to move, supply, support and care for their troops.

This is becoming an issue as US helos are returned to depots for overhauls and upgrades.  NATO also relys on US air transports (C5/C17/C130/Sherpa) for resupply.

In addition, most of the EU nations, by not spending enough to maintain their militaries and relying on the US and UK for the bulk of their support, will be hard pressed to expand their forces.  This is especially true considering the lion&#039;s share of their government budgets go to wasteful, and VERY expensive socialist programs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Gregory hit the nail on the head.  Most EU nations do not even have enough helo support to move their troops around for combat ops.  They rely on US assets to move, supply, support and care for their troops.</p>
<p>This is becoming an issue as US helos are returned to depots for overhauls and upgrades.  NATO also relys on US air transports (C5/C17/C130/Sherpa) for resupply.</p>
<p>In addition, most of the EU nations, by not spending enough to maintain their militaries and relying on the US and UK for the bulk of their support, will be hard pressed to expand their forces.  This is especially true considering the lion&#8217;s share of their government budgets go to wasteful, and VERY expensive socialist programs.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Dittman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregory Dittman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 09:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pigs do fly:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/shotlivephoto/80644079/

Obama has no economic history on Europe.  He can&#039;t ask for troops that don&#039;t exist.  Europe has put so much effort into their socialism that they can&#039;t afford to have a military.  For instance the Dutch have 25,000 in their military and have the money to send 2,000 for a long term commitment. Put 300 guys (total) on two ships, 1,500 in the  province of Uruzgan (already deployed), maybe 300 in the former Yugoslavia and presto the Dutch are tapped out.

The French are in several countries including securing the Lebanese Southern boarder. The French have 259,050 active troops (largest in Europe, 13th largest per number) with 36,000 (almost 14%) already on missions.  They spend 2.6% of their GNP, yet it&#039;s still the second most expensive force in the world! 

Germany has 250,000 on active duty, they spend 1.3% of their GNP. 7,551 (3%) are already on missions.  In manpower, they could probably spare 27,400 to be on par with France, but somebody else will probably have to foot the bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Pigs do fly:<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/shotlivephoto/80644079/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/shotlivephoto/80644079/</a></p>
<p>Obama has no economic history on Europe.  He can&#8217;t ask for troops that don&#8217;t exist.  Europe has put so much effort into their socialism that they can&#8217;t afford to have a military.  For instance the Dutch have 25,000 in their military and have the money to send 2,000 for a long term commitment. Put 300 guys (total) on two ships, 1,500 in the  province of Uruzgan (already deployed), maybe 300 in the former Yugoslavia and presto the Dutch are tapped out.</p>
<p>The French are in several countries including securing the Lebanese Southern boarder. The French have 259,050 active troops (largest in Europe, 13th largest per number) with 36,000 (almost 14%) already on missions.  They spend 2.6% of their GNP, yet it&#8217;s still the second most expensive force in the world! </p>
<p>Germany has 250,000 on active duty, they spend 1.3% of their GNP. 7,551 (3%) are already on missions.  In manpower, they could probably spare 27,400 to be on par with France, but somebody else will probably have to foot the bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Igor R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Igor R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 04:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Marxist Monster has created the fiction that Afghanistan is the only true threat to the United States because that&#039;s where Al Qaeda is and that&#039;s the only place where everyone needs to look for it.  Now he is sounding tough on that one true enemy.  This dangerous narcissist is playing with the security of the US as if the only thing that matters is his election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>The Marxist Monster has created the fiction that Afghanistan is the only true threat to the United States because that&#8217;s where Al Qaeda is and that&#8217;s the only place where everyone needs to look for it.  Now he is sounding tough on that one true enemy.  This dangerous narcissist is playing with the security of the US as if the only thing that matters is his election.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathie said:&lt;em&gt;&quot;The Dems might just discover that Bush has done one heck of a job under the circumstances not only with the GWOT but with the economy too.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;img src=&quot;http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j191/mikesamerica/pigfly_o.gif&quot;/&gt;When pigs fly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Kathie said:<em>&#8220;The Dems might just discover that Bush has done one heck of a job under the circumstances not only with the GWOT but with the economy too.&#8221;</em></p>
<p><img src="http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j191/mikesamerica/pigfly_o.gif"/>When pigs fly!</p>
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		<title>By: kathie</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait just one minute.......the Germans are going to hate us if we call them &quot;Old Europe&quot; so are the Spaniards, the Italians, the French are coming along. He is sounding just like Rummy. But Rummy didn&#039;t tic off the Canadians. How is the world going to love us if we tell them to pull their own weight. Well, well, well maybe Bush just asked people to full fill their pledge!  How shameful! The Dems might just discover that Bush has done one heck of a job under the circumstances not only with the GWOT but with the economy too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Wait just one minute&#8230;&#8230;.the Germans are going to hate us if we call them &#8220;Old Europe&#8221; so are the Spaniards, the Italians, the French are coming along. He is sounding just like Rummy. But Rummy didn&#8217;t tic off the Canadians. How is the world going to love us if we tell them to pull their own weight. Well, well, well maybe Bush just asked people to full fill their pledge!  How shameful! The Dems might just discover that Bush has done one heck of a job under the circumstances not only with the GWOT but with the economy too.</p>
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		<title>By: Elroy Jetson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elroy Jetson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meet the new lib, same as the old lib.</description>
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		<title>By: jainphx</title>
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		<dc:creator>jainphx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 01:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama threaten to bomb them, that will move them.</description>
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		<title>By: Pros and Cons &#187; This is a phenomally good translation, and other Afghan news</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pros and Cons &#187; This is a phenomally good translation, and other Afghan news</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 01:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Aces notes that the Junior Senator from Illinois, Barak Hussein Obama, has attacked yet another US ally, this time with some justification. He finally has noticed that Germany&#8217;s contribution to our Afghan mission is laughable. [...]</description>
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