[...] “strong reprimands”, with military action (although unstated) off the tables. The IAEA appears inept at preventing illegal nuclear proliferation. Sanctions did not deter the nuclear ambitions of [...]

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[...] IAEA is a joke: The IAEA is useless. It failed to stop Saddam from pursuing nuclear weapons, and in 1981 the [...]

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[...] IAEA is a joke: The IAEA is useless. It failed to stop Saddam from pursuing nuclear weapons, and in 1981 the [...]

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“Them us, it’s all the same.” I beg to differ. American soldiers and Marines are not the same people as the Republican Guard or Fedeyeen Saddam.

Chris V, you’re mistaken in a grand way if you think that the US was the primary supplier for Saddam. Please read up and come back

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I always found it extremely hipocritical that the Bush administration wouldn’t name its source as to the W.M.D. hunt in Iraq. Oh guess they did’t want everyone to remember that it was his fathers C.I.A. that supplied it to them to fight Iran. Guess thats why Isreal had to sit back and take it over that one. Its amazing that we have had to sacrafice how many american soldiers because of the greed and lack of vision to the future the Bush family has. and amazingly they were able to snow the american public, no make that continue to snow the american idiot public into financing there personal interests. WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Wow! Lots and lots of stuff out there. Thanks to all for point me towards all the articles. It seems you can find contradictions between all of them (some even within the write-up). I guess we all chose to believe what we need to believe. I still and will forever believe that killing people to get your way just doesn’t work. Until human beings decide to look each other in the eye and see themselves looking back, we will continue to blame the other for the “bad stuff”. I don’t buy it. It all comes down to the money/power and the ability to enslave or defeat others for comfort. This is our one world. No others. It’s not God or the boogie man doing the killing. It is human beings choosing to believe something that makes them feel alright with killing another. No different than the junkie in the 7-11. Just a bigger store and weapons. Them us, it’s all the same.

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Robert, I believe you have your calenders mixed up. The 12,000+ page declaration was given by Iraq in December 2002, but 3 months later on March 6, 2003 the UN inspectors (UNMOVIC, led by Dr Hans Blix) presented the UN with the list of Unresolved Disarmament Issues (ie, WMD). That report listed 129 pages of issues commonly described as “WMD”, but it was more than just WMD. It also listed at least 5 different ways for Iraq to prove it had disarmed (as the onus was on Iraq to prove its disarmament according to the UN). Those 5 ways ranged from merely writing a report on what had happened to the specific “wmd” issue, to actually providing evidence of destruction. The inspectors were not weapons hunters, but there to Monitor Observe and Verify Iraq’s disarmament claims. Iraq didn’t even bother to write a fictional story in most cases, and after so many years it was clear that inspections just weren’t going to work. So, the President told the inspectors and Saddam to leave. I strongly urge you to read Dr Blix’ Unresolved Disarmament Issues report as it clearly shows the 12,000 page declaration you put so much stock in was nowhere near complete. It was a farce-according to the UN.

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“I just like the fact you didn’t argue that it was actually Bush who threw the weapons inspectors out, and not Saddam.”

After they had been thrown out for years by Saddam, and after it was apparent that he was pulling the exact same dog and pony show as before.

“stating exactly what happened to the WMDs (the US gave him) on 12/7/2002?”

US gave Saddam no WMDs. You’ll want to look towards the Europeans for Saddam’s Bio/Chem Weapons.

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I just like the fact you didn’t argue that it was actually Bush who threw the weapons inspectors out, and not Saddam. Nice of you to acknowledge the truth after 5+ years.
In another 5 years, will you admit that Saddam gave the UN a 12,000+ page report stating exactly what happened to the WMDs (the US gave him) on 12/7/2002?

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I think T Ray lapsed into a moment of truthfullness when he said : “Well I honestly don’t know”

And the rest of the time when he claims to know, I wonder if he’s being honest!

P.S. You have to get T-Ray on the Obama/Afghanistan thread:

http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/21/obama-on-afghanistan/#comment-19955

We’re running low on moonbat gas!

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