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		<title>By: Tony Blair Says WMD Not The Only Reason For Iraq War, As Did Bush&#8230;..Both Were Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Blair Says WMD Not The Only Reason For Iraq War, As Did Bush&#8230;..Both Were Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for the WMD&#8217;s. That same Senate report above concludes that while he may have not had any major amounts of WMD he DID have the intent and capabilities of reconstituting those WMD programs within a short amount [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>[...] for the WMD&#8217;s. That same Senate report above concludes that while he may have not had any major amounts of WMD he DID have the intent and capabilities of reconstituting those WMD programs within a short amount [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Davey</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/02/23/4075/#comment-251122</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>January 26,2006 the New York Sun reported that Georges Sada a former Iraqi Air Force general, had stated in an interview that the vast majority of WMD had been moved from Iraq to Syria in the months prior to the Iraq War II.  The had clandestinely removed the seats from commercial airliners and coverted them to cargo planes for the specific intent of avoiding suspicion and possible investigation.
The same basic story was carried by the Middle East Quarterly in the Fall issue of 2005.  In the same article the Quarterly reported that Ariel Sharon, the late PM of Israel, had stated on December 2002 at the Israeli TV channel 2 studios that all the CW and Bio wepons had been moved into Syria prior to the war.  He also expressed extreme concern that the Syrians might be tempted to use them against Israel.
These stories and others like them have circulated in the media for years, but there&#039;s a lot to be said for the power of invincible ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>January 26,2006 the New York Sun reported that Georges Sada a former Iraqi Air Force general, had stated in an interview that the vast majority of WMD had been moved from Iraq to Syria in the months prior to the Iraq War II.  The had clandestinely removed the seats from commercial airliners and coverted them to cargo planes for the specific intent of avoiding suspicion and possible investigation.<br />
The same basic story was carried by the Middle East Quarterly in the Fall issue of 2005.  In the same article the Quarterly reported that Ariel Sharon, the late PM of Israel, had stated on December 2002 at the Israeli TV channel 2 studios that all the CW and Bio wepons had been moved into Syria prior to the war.  He also expressed extreme concern that the Syrians might be tempted to use them against Israel.<br />
These stories and others like them have circulated in the media for years, but there&#8217;s a lot to be said for the power of invincible ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/02/23/4075/#comment-21089</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Iraqi leaders say &#039;Chemical Ali&#039; will be executed&quot;
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/29/mideast/iraq.php</description>
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		<title>By: &#187; Saddam’s WMD Program &#38; Site 555 NoisyRoom.net: Courage is the price that Life exacts for granting peace. Amelia Earhart</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Saddam’s WMD Program &#38; Site 555 NoisyRoom.net: Courage is the price that Life exacts for granting peace. Amelia Earhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Flopping Aces (Hat Tip: Rocket&#8217;s Brain [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/02/23/4075/#comment-19616</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t really surprising. Here are some other items for your consideration -

ITEM: In Dec 2002/Jan2003, it&#039;s reported the Saddam government contacts Finnish government with regard to anthrax decontamination. When the Finnish refuses to provide information on those decontamination methods, they make the same request of Sweden. (The AP, APF, and Reuters articles on the Iraqi request cannot be found in their current archives.) Why would they need to know about anthrax decontamination? We certainly weren&#039;t going to be using bioweapons.

ITEM: In the push to Baghdad, elements of the 101st Airborne Division find warehouses full of new, empty artillery shells next door to a chemical plant. It&#039;s reported by CNN, FOXNews, AP, and Reuters that the shells had appeared to have been steam cleaned a few hours before the arrival of US troops at the chemical/warehouse complex.

ITEM: In northern Iraq, in May 2003, US troops discover an underground oil refinery complex built into the side of a mountain. The technology found in the complex had indicated it was built in the 1990s.

ITEM: July 2003, a US Army patrol heading west out of Baghdad into Anbar province makes a refueling stop. It&#039;s during this stop, some soldiers notice something sticking out from the ground. They discover it&#039;s a tail fin of an advanced MiG-29 fighter. A full excavation of the site reveals several MiG-29s have been buried.  Once the dig is completed, it&#039;s reported 40-50 planes were recovered.

ITEM: August 2003, a buried stockpile of Russian made and Soviet-era air to air missiles are discovered. Since the Russian and Soviet equivalent of the US-made Sidewinder do not have proximity detectors, they rely on a small ball of weapons grade uranium to serve as part of the detector assembly and fuse assembly. The amount of uranium in each missile is enough for use in a radiological weapon. The missiles are removed and shipped back to the US for disposal.

And, this is only a small snippet of finds that were reported in the media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>This isn&#8217;t really surprising. Here are some other items for your consideration -</p>
<p>ITEM: In Dec 2002/Jan2003, it&#8217;s reported the Saddam government contacts Finnish government with regard to anthrax decontamination. When the Finnish refuses to provide information on those decontamination methods, they make the same request of Sweden. (The AP, APF, and Reuters articles on the Iraqi request cannot be found in their current archives.) Why would they need to know about anthrax decontamination? We certainly weren&#8217;t going to be using bioweapons.</p>
<p>ITEM: In the push to Baghdad, elements of the 101st Airborne Division find warehouses full of new, empty artillery shells next door to a chemical plant. It&#8217;s reported by CNN, FOXNews, AP, and Reuters that the shells had appeared to have been steam cleaned a few hours before the arrival of US troops at the chemical/warehouse complex.</p>
<p>ITEM: In northern Iraq, in May 2003, US troops discover an underground oil refinery complex built into the side of a mountain. The technology found in the complex had indicated it was built in the 1990s.</p>
<p>ITEM: July 2003, a US Army patrol heading west out of Baghdad into Anbar province makes a refueling stop. It&#8217;s during this stop, some soldiers notice something sticking out from the ground. They discover it&#8217;s a tail fin of an advanced MiG-29 fighter. A full excavation of the site reveals several MiG-29s have been buried.  Once the dig is completed, it&#8217;s reported 40-50 planes were recovered.</p>
<p>ITEM: August 2003, a buried stockpile of Russian made and Soviet-era air to air missiles are discovered. Since the Russian and Soviet equivalent of the US-made Sidewinder do not have proximity detectors, they rely on a small ball of weapons grade uranium to serve as part of the detector assembly and fuse assembly. The amount of uranium in each missile is enough for use in a radiological weapon. The missiles are removed and shipped back to the US for disposal.</p>
<p>And, this is only a small snippet of finds that were reported in the media.</p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; &#187; Saddam’s WMD Program &#38; Site 555, Part II</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; &#187; Saddam’s WMD Program &#38; Site 555, Part II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Continuing the story about the CIA officer who had found a possible underground nuclear site in Iraq: The man running the site was an Iraqi general, identified in the Company X report as PEAIR/13. According to the Eastern Europeans who had worked with him, he was &#8220;not young, but looked younger then he was.&#8221; He wore a military uniform &#8220;with no indication of rank on it; he was also a senior member of the Baath party who often traveled by helicopter.&#8221; Later the Eastern European project manager identified him as &#8220;Saddam&#8217;s cousin.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>[...] Continuing the story about the CIA officer who had found a possible underground nuclear site in Iraq: The man running the site was an Iraqi general, identified in the Company X report as PEAIR/13. According to the Eastern Europeans who had worked with him, he was &#8220;not young, but looked younger then he was.&#8221; He wore a military uniform &#8220;with no indication of rank on it; he was also a senior member of the Baath party who often traveled by helicopter.&#8221; Later the Eastern European project manager identified him as &#8220;Saddam&#8217;s cousin.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SealPatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>SealPatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually John Ryan, you ought to read Chris G&#039;s &quot;Why Iraq&quot; post, and see for yourself that you are wrong about how noone from the world press wrote about WMD&#039;s being found in Iraq. I would hardly consider China Daily, and the U.K. Sunday Times as not being apart of the world press.

In fact, a lot of sources from Chris&#039;s post are news websites as well as military documents that were released for distibution to the public, why noone reports on them? I honestly don&#039;t know. 

At the same time, four dollars a month is not a little bit of money. If you are poor, then that wage would be worth it. To top it all off, you may not have a choice and even if you did, your other options may not be better. Also, Vietnam owns some of Iraq&#039;s oil fields nowadays, they had purchased them sometime in the early eighties.

How do you know that these Vietnamese people weren&#039;t forced into participating in this project through business liasons? As shown by many VietnAmericans, the Viets do not exactly have freedom to make their own decisions. After all, their country has sweat shops in total abundance, which is the modern version of slavery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Actually John Ryan, you ought to read Chris G&#8217;s &#8220;Why Iraq&#8221; post, and see for yourself that you are wrong about how noone from the world press wrote about WMD&#8217;s being found in Iraq. I would hardly consider China Daily, and the U.K. Sunday Times as not being apart of the world press.</p>
<p>In fact, a lot of sources from Chris&#8217;s post are news websites as well as military documents that were released for distibution to the public, why noone reports on them? I honestly don&#8217;t know. </p>
<p>At the same time, four dollars a month is not a little bit of money. If you are poor, then that wage would be worth it. To top it all off, you may not have a choice and even if you did, your other options may not be better. Also, Vietnam owns some of Iraq&#8217;s oil fields nowadays, they had purchased them sometime in the early eighties.</p>
<p>How do you know that these Vietnamese people weren&#8217;t forced into participating in this project through business liasons? As shown by many VietnAmericans, the Viets do not exactly have freedom to make their own decisions. After all, their country has sweat shops in total abundance, which is the modern version of slavery.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/04/06/wpois06.xml&amp;sSheet=/news/2003/04/06/ixnewstop.html


&lt;blockquote&gt;Mustard gas and cyanide have been found in river water in the Iraqi city of Nasiriyah, coalition forces said yesterday.

The poisonous substances are believed to have been dumped in the Euphrates either by Iraqi soldiers fleeing from American troops or local factories that produced weapons of mass destruction.

A spokesman for the United States marines, based just outside the city, described the quantities of chemical agents found as &quot;significant&quot; and claimed that it was further evidence that Saddam Hussein has produced weapons of mass destruction.
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He said yesterday: &quot;I think this discovery shows what kind of guy is running this country.

&quot;This stuff is just dumped in the Euphrates without any concern for the many people who drink and wash with water from the river.&quot;

The poisons were discovered by the marines&#039; scientists who were testing the quality of water taken from the Euphrates before purifying it and distributing it to the residents of Nasiriyah, a city of 250,000 people.

It follows the discovery of hundreds of gas masks and chemical warfare suits at a military base near the city.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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<blockquote><p>Mustard gas and cyanide have been found in river water in the Iraqi city of Nasiriyah, coalition forces said yesterday.</p>
<p>The poisonous substances are believed to have been dumped in the Euphrates either by Iraqi soldiers fleeing from American troops or local factories that produced weapons of mass destruction.</p>
<p>A spokesman for the United States marines, based just outside the city, described the quantities of chemical agents found as &#8220;significant&#8221; and claimed that it was further evidence that Saddam Hussein has produced weapons of mass destruction.<br />
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<p>He said yesterday: &#8220;I think this discovery shows what kind of guy is running this country.</p>
<p>&#8220;This stuff is just dumped in the Euphrates without any concern for the many people who drink and wash with water from the river.&#8221;</p>
<p>The poisons were discovered by the marines&#8217; scientists who were testing the quality of water taken from the Euphrates before purifying it and distributing it to the residents of Nasiriyah, a city of 250,000 people.</p>
<p>It follows the discovery of hundreds of gas masks and chemical warfare suits at a military base near the city.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Aye Chihuahua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aye Chihuahua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 13:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who say &quot;we haven&#039;t found them&quot; could you tell me how long the Amber Room has been missing?  

Sometime in the 1940&#039;s right?

Did you see what was in the news this week?

That&#039;s right....they believe that they have found the hiding place for the Amber Room and tons of Nazi gold.

Things not located may continue to exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>For those who say &#8220;we haven&#8217;t found them&#8221; could you tell me how long the Amber Room has been missing?  </p>
<p>Sometime in the 1940&#8242;s right?</p>
<p>Did you see what was in the news this week?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s right&#8230;.they believe that they have found the hiding place for the Amber Room and tons of Nazi gold.</p>
<p>Things not located may continue to exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 13:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard.  That was a good point.  I&#039;ve several CNN articles saying the same thing, and there&#039;s a History Channel show on modern day bunkers (part of a series) that actually goes inside the Yugoslavian bunker AND Saddam&#039;s.  It was amazing.

To those who say Saddam had no WMD, I submit one question: where did the WMD that he declared to the UN in 1998 (which the UN in turn agreed he had) go, and remember, the entire idea behind a WMD is that it is a weapon of mass destruction; a single wmd warhead is equal to hundreds of conventional warheads so vast warehouses aren&#039;t needed?

&quot;[I]t is possible to turn to biological attack, where a small can, not bigger than the size of a hand, can be used to release viruses that affect everything...&quot;
Babil, September 20, 2001 (State-controlled newspaper)

&quot;The United States must get a taste of its own poison...&quot;
Babil, October 8, 2001 (State-controlled newspaper)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Richard.  That was a good point.  I&#8217;ve several CNN articles saying the same thing, and there&#8217;s a History Channel show on modern day bunkers (part of a series) that actually goes inside the Yugoslavian bunker AND Saddam&#8217;s.  It was amazing.</p>
<p>To those who say Saddam had no WMD, I submit one question: where did the WMD that he declared to the UN in 1998 (which the UN in turn agreed he had) go, and remember, the entire idea behind a WMD is that it is a weapon of mass destruction; a single wmd warhead is equal to hundreds of conventional warheads so vast warehouses aren&#8217;t needed?</p>
<p>&#8220;[I]t is possible to turn to biological attack, where a small can, not bigger than the size of a hand, can be used to release viruses that affect everything&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Babil, September 20, 2001 (State-controlled newspaper)</p>
<p>&#8220;The United States must get a taste of its own poison&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Babil, October 8, 2001 (State-controlled newspaper)</p>
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