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		<title>By: suek</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/02/11/environazis-exposed/#comment-16441</link>
		<dc:creator>suek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Looks like a lot of dramatic footage of what *would* happen if the temperature rose,...&gt;&gt;

Given that the latest thing is the possibility of global cooling, I wonder if they&#039;ll do a reciprocal show on what would happen if the average global temperature _dropped_ the same six degrees.  I suspect the effects would be much worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&gt;&gt;Looks like a lot of dramatic footage of what *would* happen if the temperature rose,&#8230;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Given that the latest thing is the possibility of global cooling, I wonder if they&#8217;ll do a reciprocal show on what would happen if the average global temperature _dropped_ the same six degrees.  I suspect the effects would be much worse.</p>
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		<title>By: bbartlog</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/02/11/environazis-exposed/#comment-16398</link>
		<dc:creator>bbartlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;wasn’t that done under the 1972 Clean Water Act&lt;/i&gt;

Yup. Democracy at work. I can imagine other ways it might have been done that I would have liked even better, but it looks like a success story for our system of governance. I&#039;m not hostile to all environmental initiatives, just stupid ones.

&lt;i&gt;Six Degrees Could Change The World&lt;/i&gt;

Seen the ads for it. Looks like a lot of dramatic footage of what *would* happen if the temperature rose, and not much discussion of *whether* we&#039;re making the temperature rise. Though as I said I&#039;ve only seen trailers, so who knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><i>wasn’t that done under the 1972 Clean Water Act</i></p>
<p>Yup. Democracy at work. I can imagine other ways it might have been done that I would have liked even better, but it looks like a success story for our system of governance. I&#8217;m not hostile to all environmental initiatives, just stupid ones.</p>
<p><i>Six Degrees Could Change The World</i></p>
<p>Seen the ads for it. Looks like a lot of dramatic footage of what *would* happen if the temperature rose, and not much discussion of *whether* we&#8217;re making the temperature rise. Though as I said I&#8217;ve only seen trailers, so who knows.</p>
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		<title>By: Dirck the Noorman</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/02/11/environazis-exposed/#comment-16287</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirck the Noorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There will always be a segment of society that thinks our affairs should be managed by some self-appointed elites. Everyone else will have to accept mass death and poverty, and its for their own good. 

Ever wonder why the Global Warming Movement took off right around the time the Soviet Union collapsed? Marxism was such an obvious failure (100MM dead? 200MM dead?) they had to move onto something else. 

Global Warmingism is just the latest iteration of absolute statist collectivism.

http://tinyurl.com/22hy4u</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>There will always be a segment of society that thinks our affairs should be managed by some self-appointed elites. Everyone else will have to accept mass death and poverty, and its for their own good. </p>
<p>Ever wonder why the Global Warming Movement took off right around the time the Soviet Union collapsed? Marxism was such an obvious failure (100MM dead? 200MM dead?) they had to move onto something else. </p>
<p>Global Warmingism is just the latest iteration of absolute statist collectivism.</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/22hy4u" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/22hy4u</a></p>
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		<title>By: ChrisG</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/02/11/environazis-exposed/#comment-16273</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

Considering the hippie leftist have been wrong on every other dire prediction, why should their new-age religion prophecy on Man-Made Global Warming (based itself on disproved data and political expediency) be any different?

And as I keep telling our other resident leftist.  Conservatives do not go out destroying the environment like some Captain Planet &quot;villain&quot;.  Socialists nations, on the other hand, have a very poor track record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>John,</p>
<p>Considering the hippie leftist have been wrong on every other dire prediction, why should their new-age religion prophecy on Man-Made Global Warming (based itself on disproved data and political expediency) be any different?</p>
<p>And as I keep telling our other resident leftist.  Conservatives do not go out destroying the environment like some Captain Planet &#8220;villain&#8221;.  Socialists nations, on the other hand, have a very poor track record.</p>
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		<title>By: John Ryan</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/02/11/environazis-exposed/#comment-16265</link>
		<dc:creator>John Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course the hippie leftists MUST be wrong about global climate change. Their being correct on anything is just to frightening to imagine.
National Geographic Channel is showing Six Degrees Could Change The World on Feb 14th
Don&#039;t let  your kids watch it, they may be brainwashed. 
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/sixdegrees/videos_1.html?nav=NGC-sixdegrees-one

As for cleaning up Lake Erie wasn&#039;t that done under the 1972 Clean Water Act, more hippie propaganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Of course the hippie leftists MUST be wrong about global climate change. Their being correct on anything is just to frightening to imagine.<br />
National Geographic Channel is showing Six Degrees Could Change The World on Feb 14th<br />
Don&#8217;t let  your kids watch it, they may be brainwashed.<br />
<a href="http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/sixdegrees/videos_1.html?nav=NGC-sixdegrees-one" rel="nofollow">http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/sixdegrees/videos_1.html?nav=NGC-sixdegrees-one</a></p>
<p>As for cleaning up Lake Erie wasn&#8217;t that done under the 1972 Clean Water Act, more hippie propaganda.</p>
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		<title>By: bbartlog</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/02/11/environazis-exposed/#comment-16216</link>
		<dc:creator>bbartlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The author manages to be wrong twice: first in touting the Chinese (or any other Communists) as some sort of benefit for the environment, and second in acting as if our society needs radical reorganization in order to deal with environmental challenges. Look at the damage the Soviets did to Lake Baikal or the Aral Sea, or look at China&#039;s air and water pollution... they&#039;ve matched the worst excesses we had during the 19th and early 20th century, but lack the democratic institutions to fix their problems. 
We cleaned up Pittsburgh&#039;s air and Lake Erie&#039;s water without having to resort to fascism. There are still some corporate villains who could stand to be brought to heel, but overall we&#039;re doing pretty well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>The author manages to be wrong twice: first in touting the Chinese (or any other Communists) as some sort of benefit for the environment, and second in acting as if our society needs radical reorganization in order to deal with environmental challenges. Look at the damage the Soviets did to Lake Baikal or the Aral Sea, or look at China&#8217;s air and water pollution&#8230; they&#8217;ve matched the worst excesses we had during the 19th and early 20th century, but lack the democratic institutions to fix their problems.<br />
We cleaned up Pittsburgh&#8217;s air and Lake Erie&#8217;s water without having to resort to fascism. There are still some corporate villains who could stand to be brought to heel, but overall we&#8217;re doing pretty well.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisG</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/02/11/environazis-exposed/#comment-16190</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sitting here in Michigan with a high of 12 degF (yesterday was a balmy 8 degsF).  It might even get to the mid 20s during the warming period this week.  Even at the worst doom and gloom from the very rich and profitable &quot;man made&quot; global warming industry, it might eventually rise 1-2 deg F.  Considering that each period of cyclic warming since 5,000 BC has resulted in a boom in human civilization (and it was much warmer then than now), I have to wonder what the downside is also.

We even have a few more storms worth of that white stuff the Church of Gore said was going away forever coming in.  Meanwhile, it is so cold that one of my house&#039;s windows cracked from the temperature difference last night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I am sitting here in Michigan with a high of 12 degF (yesterday was a balmy 8 degsF).  It might even get to the mid 20s during the warming period this week.  Even at the worst doom and gloom from the very rich and profitable &#8220;man made&#8221; global warming industry, it might eventually rise 1-2 deg F.  Considering that each period of cyclic warming since 5,000 BC has resulted in a boom in human civilization (and it was much warmer then than now), I have to wonder what the downside is also.</p>
<p>We even have a few more storms worth of that white stuff the Church of Gore said was going away forever coming in.  Meanwhile, it is so cold that one of my house&#8217;s windows cracked from the temperature difference last night.</p>
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		<title>By: Fasternu426</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fasternu426</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Global warming sure makes sitting in a deer stand a lot more tolerable.... :)</description>
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		<title>By: Fasternu426</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fasternu426</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m here in Texas. It&#039;s 73 degrees outside right now. I&#039;m looking for a downside to this global warming thing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I&#8217;m here in Texas. It&#8217;s 73 degrees outside right now. I&#8217;m looking for a downside to this global warming thing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>global warming is just left wing cow flops there is nothing that we can do or don&#039;t do that will effect the tempture of planet earth.global warming=piltown man you have proof you say wellgo to junkscience.com show your proof and collect a $125,000 prize.</description>
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