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	<title>Comments on: Bolton &amp; Fred On McCain</title>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/02/09/bolton-fred-on-mccain/#comment-15906</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 14:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom the Redhunter, you are correct for the most part.  His lifetime rating with the American Conservative Union is misleading, in that he voted mostly conservative early in his career but moved left as the years passed.  This gives him a rating that does not reflect current reality.

My point is that the Republican party no longer represents the conservative movement, but expects us to fall in line when we are needed.  I make a lot of noise, but I will probably suck it up and do my part to prevent a Democrat (dhimmocrat?) from moving into the White House, but I will neither like it or continue to do so.  

At sometime, though, the Republicans (who are looking more like a big government party every year) are going to have to learn that they can no longer take a large block of their voters for granted.  Either start delivering, or relegate themselves to being Democrat light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Tom the Redhunter, you are correct for the most part.  His lifetime rating with the American Conservative Union is misleading, in that he voted mostly conservative early in his career but moved left as the years passed.  This gives him a rating that does not reflect current reality.</p>
<p>My point is that the Republican party no longer represents the conservative movement, but expects us to fall in line when we are needed.  I make a lot of noise, but I will probably suck it up and do my part to prevent a Democrat (dhimmocrat?) from moving into the White House, but I will neither like it or continue to do so.  </p>
<p>At sometime, though, the Republicans (who are looking more like a big government party every year) are going to have to learn that they can no longer take a large block of their voters for granted.  Either start delivering, or relegate themselves to being Democrat light.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom the Redhunter</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/02/09/bolton-fred-on-mccain/#comment-15815</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom the Redhunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 03:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh boy

Let&#039;s go through this

As a conservative yes McCain has annoyed me at times over the years.  I hate the McCain-Feingold bill.  etc etc.

So yes I can understand that a lot of conservatives think that McCain is now just telling us what he thinks we want to hear.  And yes I really do understand the frustration with not having a better GOP candidate.

But if you listen to certain radio talk show hosts - Laura Ingraham, Glenn Beck, Mark Levin - you&#039;d think McCain was a wild-eyed liberal.  This is insane.  He&#039;s got an 82.3% lifetime rating from the American Conservative Union, for pete&#039;s sake.  Not the best but it certainly puts him in conservative ranks.  

It&#039;s also somewhat like the war in Iraq; complain as you will about our mistakes in the early years, but we are where we are.   We&#039;ve got McCain and that&#039;s the way it is.  

So it&#039;s him or Clinton/Obama.  As Curt said in an earlier post, if you can&#039;t see the difference between McCain and the democrats you&#039;re willfully deluding yourself.    

Lastly, do you think the Democrats have liked all of their candidates over the years?  Half of them couldn&#039;t stand John Kerry and were appalled that he won their nomination, but they united and came within a nose hair of winning the election, as you&#039;ll recall.  

So yes I too am disappointed it&#039;s McCain.  But he&#039;s lightyears better than any Democrat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Oh boy</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s go through this</p>
<p>As a conservative yes McCain has annoyed me at times over the years.  I hate the McCain-Feingold bill.  etc etc.</p>
<p>So yes I can understand that a lot of conservatives think that McCain is now just telling us what he thinks we want to hear.  And yes I really do understand the frustration with not having a better GOP candidate.</p>
<p>But if you listen to certain radio talk show hosts &#8211; Laura Ingraham, Glenn Beck, Mark Levin &#8211; you&#8217;d think McCain was a wild-eyed liberal.  This is insane.  He&#8217;s got an 82.3% lifetime rating from the American Conservative Union, for pete&#8217;s sake.  Not the best but it certainly puts him in conservative ranks.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s also somewhat like the war in Iraq; complain as you will about our mistakes in the early years, but we are where we are.   We&#8217;ve got McCain and that&#8217;s the way it is.  </p>
<p>So it&#8217;s him or Clinton/Obama.  As Curt said in an earlier post, if you can&#8217;t see the difference between McCain and the democrats you&#8217;re willfully deluding yourself.    </p>
<p>Lastly, do you think the Democrats have liked all of their candidates over the years?  Half of them couldn&#8217;t stand John Kerry and were appalled that he won their nomination, but they united and came within a nose hair of winning the election, as you&#8217;ll recall.  </p>
<p>So yes I too am disappointed it&#8217;s McCain.  But he&#8217;s lightyears better than any Democrat.</p>
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		<title>By: RHJunior</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/02/09/bolton-fred-on-mccain/#comment-15796</link>
		<dc:creator>RHJunior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 02:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Worse is better&quot; implies that there would be a lick&#039;s worth of difference between a RINO presidency and a Democrat one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&#8220;Worse is better&#8221; implies that there would be a lick&#8217;s worth of difference between a RINO presidency and a Democrat one.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Sear</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/02/09/bolton-fred-on-mccain/#comment-15795</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Sear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 02:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain/Feingold.  McCain/Kennedy.  Gang of 14 (I closed my checkbook to the Republicans after this disgrace).  McCain/Lieberman.

Conservatives are being told to sit down and shut up.  We have been taken for granted for too long.  A Democrat in the White House would be a disaster, but McCain has taken joy in poking his own party in the eye for too long.  I think that it is the ultimate in chutzpah for this man to now hope that we will fall in behind him.  The fact that this is the best that the Republicans can do should cause all of us some sleepless nights.  

To paraphrase a former president: I did not leave the Republicans, they left me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>McCain/Feingold.  McCain/Kennedy.  Gang of 14 (I closed my checkbook to the Republicans after this disgrace).  McCain/Lieberman.</p>
<p>Conservatives are being told to sit down and shut up.  We have been taken for granted for too long.  A Democrat in the White House would be a disaster, but McCain has taken joy in poking his own party in the eye for too long.  I think that it is the ultimate in chutzpah for this man to now hope that we will fall in behind him.  The fact that this is the best that the Republicans can do should cause all of us some sleepless nights.  </p>
<p>To paraphrase a former president: I did not leave the Republicans, they left me.</p>
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		<title>By: Wordsmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 01:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://ponderingpenguin.blogspot.com/2008/02/thompson-and-bolton-speak.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Interesting&lt;/a&gt;...

&lt;blockquote&gt;Sam Stein reports from the CPAC convention on John Bolton&#039;s speech before the group on Friday. &quot;Revealing information that he said had never before been made public, Bolton discussed how McCain secretly tried to shepherd his nomination to the United Nations - a nomination that was held up in the Congress over Bolton&#039;s controversial anti-UN statements and policies.&quot;

&quot;He was very active behind the scenes,&quot; said Bolton who was ultimately sent to the UN via a presidential recess appointment. &quot;He thought I was the type of ambassador that ought to represent the United States at the United Nations.&quot;, Bolton said.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><a href="http://ponderingpenguin.blogspot.com/2008/02/thompson-and-bolton-speak.html" rel="nofollow">Interesting</a>&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Sam Stein reports from the CPAC convention on John Bolton&#8217;s speech before the group on Friday. &#8220;Revealing information that he said had never before been made public, Bolton discussed how McCain secretly tried to shepherd his nomination to the United Nations &#8211; a nomination that was held up in the Congress over Bolton&#8217;s controversial anti-UN statements and policies.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;He was very active behind the scenes,&#8221; said Bolton who was ultimately sent to the UN via a presidential recess appointment. &#8220;He thought I was the type of ambassador that ought to represent the United States at the United Nations.&#8221;, Bolton said.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Fasternu426</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fasternu426</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;do you see any difference between the three candidates McCain, Hillary or Obama?&quot;

Uh, yes. Plenty. Socialism and dhimmitude versus just being a squishy headed horses ass. McCain is (in my book) a C- student. Obama and Hillary are not even in the class room. McCain is not even my 8th choice for president, but he will not pull victorious troops out of a theatre of war and let the enemy take the field. Obama and Hillary WILL do their best to knife them in the back. If &quot;teaching a lesson&quot; is the answer then the question is dicked up. Country over party. 


Got Roaches? Burn the house down.... stupid, stupid stupid!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&#8220;do you see any difference between the three candidates McCain, Hillary or Obama?&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, yes. Plenty. Socialism and dhimmitude versus just being a squishy headed horses ass. McCain is (in my book) a C- student. Obama and Hillary are not even in the class room. McCain is not even my 8th choice for president, but he will not pull victorious troops out of a theatre of war and let the enemy take the field. Obama and Hillary WILL do their best to knife them in the back. If &#8220;teaching a lesson&#8221; is the answer then the question is dicked up. Country over party. </p>
<p>Got Roaches? Burn the house down&#8230;. stupid, stupid stupid!</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I had not hear that Fred endorsed Fred, but I supposed it had to happen. They are friends.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sigh....

If the reason he endorsed him was because they were friends they why did he not do it the minute after he dropped out?

No, he endorsed him because he is the nominee.  He would of endorsed whomever to the nomination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>I had not hear that Fred endorsed Fred, but I supposed it had to happen. They are friends.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sigh&#8230;.</p>
<p>If the reason he endorsed him was because they were friends they why did he not do it the minute after he dropped out?</p>
<p>No, he endorsed him because he is the nominee.  He would of endorsed whomever to the nomination.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/02/09/bolton-fred-on-mccain/#comment-15733</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had not hear that Fred endorsed Fred, but I supposed it had to happen.  They are friends.

The only thing McCain can do to try and redeem himself and win over Conservative voter, would be to choose a TRULY CONSERVATIVE VP that we could get behind as a president in waiting.  I don&#039;t see McCain winning a second term, if he wins the first one that is.  We need some hope for the future and a truly conservative VP is something we could support.  Just my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I had not hear that Fred endorsed Fred, but I supposed it had to happen.  They are friends.</p>
<p>The only thing McCain can do to try and redeem himself and win over Conservative voter, would be to choose a TRULY CONSERVATIVE VP that we could get behind as a president in waiting.  I don&#8217;t see McCain winning a second term, if he wins the first one that is.  We need some hope for the future and a truly conservative VP is something we could support.  Just my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Yes</p>
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		<title>By: John Ryan</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/02/09/bolton-fred-on-mccain/#comment-15720</link>
		<dc:creator>John Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if all of the conservatives DO support McCain can he be elected ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Even if all of the conservatives DO support McCain can he be elected ?</p>
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