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		<title>By: Curt</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/02/06/2008-national-intelligence-estimate-vindicates-bush-foreign-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-15094</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 22:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Printing the thing out now to read it through....thx Scott.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Printing the thing out now to read it through&#8230;.thx Scott.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Islamic Holy Warriors&quot; probably fits best.  &quot;Fundamentalist, Militant Islamists&quot; I found today might be too long and confusing.  And yes, I second that these &quot;warriors&quot; love the Western Left.  Dhimmis were always loved by jihadists during the expansions of Islam.  Then they are subjegated and eventually made extinct.

As for the NIE, my eye caught on the cyber warfare threats.  We are under attack hourly from Chinese and Russian cyber attacks.  China is the most prevalent, but the Russian &quot;Storm&quot; worm/bot may be even more devestating in the end.  Every day, the US Defense networks are attacked by Chinese hackers seeking holes in our security.  China itself has cited cyber war as a primary means of attacking us.

For a &quot;universe&quot; that has no physical being, the internet is a very dangerous place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&#8220;Islamic Holy Warriors&#8221; probably fits best.  &#8220;Fundamentalist, Militant Islamists&#8221; I found today might be too long and confusing.  And yes, I second that these &#8220;warriors&#8221; love the Western Left.  Dhimmis were always loved by jihadists during the expansions of Islam.  Then they are subjegated and eventually made extinct.</p>
<p>As for the NIE, my eye caught on the cyber warfare threats.  We are under attack hourly from Chinese and Russian cyber attacks.  China is the most prevalent, but the Russian &#8220;Storm&#8221; worm/bot may be even more devestating in the end.  Every day, the US Defense networks are attacked by Chinese hackers seeking holes in our security.  China itself has cited cyber war as a primary means of attacking us.</p>
<p>For a &#8220;universe&#8221; that has no physical being, the internet is a very dangerous place.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/02/06/2008-national-intelligence-estimate-vindicates-bush-foreign-policy/comment-page-1/#comment-15033</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Word, I prefer Islamic Holy Warriors as the best way of describing the enemy.  It&#039;s simple enough that their political allies on the left can understand, and make no bones about it, Islamic Holy Warriors (oxymoron alert for a &quot;religion of peace&quot;) LOVE Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Word, I prefer Islamic Holy Warriors as the best way of describing the enemy.  It&#8217;s simple enough that their political allies on the left can understand, and make no bones about it, Islamic Holy Warriors (oxymoron alert for a &#8220;religion of peace&#8221;) LOVE Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, an excellent summary of the NIE.

As opposed to the previous NIE, this particular document is quite devoid of the politics. It gives a clear and concise presentation and analysis of the situation in a professional manner.

Indeed, the concern here at home, is whether the BDS crowd have allowed themselves to be transformed into AQ sympathizers and facilitators. Many of the talking points of the BDS crowd and AQ are shared viewpoints. Whether the BDS crowd would act to facilitate and act in accordance with the AQ network, that&#039;s a tough call. However, in other times, their conduct would have certainly constituted sedition.

In a side observation, the morning news from our local FOX affiliate showed a snippet from the Senate public testimony on the NIE. The senators present, both Democrat and Republicans, seemed very disinterested in what the DNI was saying. I suspect this NIE document being quite professional in character had something to do with the lack of interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Scott, an excellent summary of the NIE.</p>
<p>As opposed to the previous NIE, this particular document is quite devoid of the politics. It gives a clear and concise presentation and analysis of the situation in a professional manner.</p>
<p>Indeed, the concern here at home, is whether the BDS crowd have allowed themselves to be transformed into AQ sympathizers and facilitators. Many of the talking points of the BDS crowd and AQ are shared viewpoints. Whether the BDS crowd would act to facilitate and act in accordance with the AQ network, that&#8217;s a tough call. However, in other times, their conduct would have certainly constituted sedition.</p>
<p>In a side observation, the morning news from our local FOX affiliate showed a snippet from the Senate public testimony on the NIE. The senators present, both Democrat and Republicans, seemed very disinterested in what the DNI was saying. I suspect this NIE document being quite professional in character had something to do with the lack of interest.</p>
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		<title>By: Wordsmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This message has always been targeted at Muslims around the world in much the same manner as WWII NAZIs presented the repetitive “stabbed in the back” and “enemy among us” message about German-Jews; us vs them. It’s classic propaganda, but now the US intelligence community’s 17 different entities confirm that this message is resonating with Americans, and terrorism inside the US is now a growing threat-not because of a growth in Al Queda infiltration, but because of the increased infiltration of Al Queda’s propaganda-Muslims are being oppressed by the Bush Administration.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As Curt and Mike know, I&#039;ve been backing off from the &quot;Islamo-fascism/Islamo-Nazism/Jihad&quot; labeling, in favor of &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/06/03/one-muslims-jihad-is-another-m/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;hirab&lt;/a&gt;&quot;.  If for nothing else, for counter-propaganda purposes.

I think some of the rhetoric coming from the right only throws kindling on the flames of al-Qaeda propaganda.  Crapping on Islam as a whole, rather than distinguish

1)criticism of the salafi and wahhabi fundamentalists
2)war with the militant radicals who engage in terrorist activities
3)the millions of peaceful Muslims who just want to go about their business

There is a difference.  

I&#039;ve been looking at Dick Cheney&#039;s transcripts for another topic, and the notion that the Bush Administration is engaging in a war against Muslims, is just hogwash (to the consternation of the &quot;Islam is a religion of hate&quot; conservative crowd):

From &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whitehouse.gov/vicepresident/news-speeches/speeches/vp20010916.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Meet the Press&lt;/a&gt;, September 16, 2001, five days after the events of 9/11:

&lt;blockquote&gt;MR. RUSSERT: Mr. Vice President, how difficult and delicate is it to send this message that we&#039;re going to uproot terrorism and Osama bin Laden and some other cells, but that this is not a war against Islam and not a war against all Arab people?

VICE PRES. CHENEY: &lt;b&gt;We have to continually remind folks of that. The president has been very clear, and it would be a huge mistake for we as Americans to assume that this represents some kind of--or should lead us to some kind of condemnation of Islam. It&#039;s clearly not the case. This is a perversion, if you will, of some of these religious beliefs by an extremist group. We have extremists associated with, you know, every imaginable religion in the world. But this is by no means a war against Islam. We&#039;ve got a great many Arab Americans, for example, who are first class, loyal American citizens. We need to make certain that we don&#039;t make the mistake of assuming that everybody who comes from a certain ethnic group or certain religious background is somehow to be blamed for this. Clearly, that&#039;s not the case. They are as appalled by it as we are.&lt;/b&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>This message has always been targeted at Muslims around the world in much the same manner as WWII NAZIs presented the repetitive “stabbed in the back” and “enemy among us” message about German-Jews; us vs them. It’s classic propaganda, but now the US intelligence community’s 17 different entities confirm that this message is resonating with Americans, and terrorism inside the US is now a growing threat-not because of a growth in Al Queda infiltration, but because of the increased infiltration of Al Queda’s propaganda-Muslims are being oppressed by the Bush Administration.</p></blockquote>
<p>As Curt and Mike know, I&#8217;ve been backing off from the &#8220;Islamo-fascism/Islamo-Nazism/Jihad&#8221; labeling, in favor of &#8220;<a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/06/03/one-muslims-jihad-is-another-m/" rel="nofollow">hirab</a>&#8220;.  If for nothing else, for counter-propaganda purposes.</p>
<p>I think some of the rhetoric coming from the right only throws kindling on the flames of al-Qaeda propaganda.  Crapping on Islam as a whole, rather than distinguish</p>
<p>1)criticism of the salafi and wahhabi fundamentalists<br />
2)war with the militant radicals who engage in terrorist activities<br />
3)the millions of peaceful Muslims who just want to go about their business</p>
<p>There is a difference.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been looking at Dick Cheney&#8217;s transcripts for another topic, and the notion that the Bush Administration is engaging in a war against Muslims, is just hogwash (to the consternation of the &#8220;Islam is a religion of hate&#8221; conservative crowd):</p>
<p>From <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/vicepresident/news-speeches/speeches/vp20010916.html" rel="nofollow">Meet the Press</a>, September 16, 2001, five days after the events of 9/11:</p>
<blockquote><p>MR. RUSSERT: Mr. Vice President, how difficult and delicate is it to send this message that we&#8217;re going to uproot terrorism and Osama bin Laden and some other cells, but that this is not a war against Islam and not a war against all Arab people?</p>
<p>VICE PRES. CHENEY: <b>We have to continually remind folks of that. The president has been very clear, and it would be a huge mistake for we as Americans to assume that this represents some kind of&#8211;or should lead us to some kind of condemnation of Islam. It&#8217;s clearly not the case. This is a perversion, if you will, of some of these religious beliefs by an extremist group. We have extremists associated with, you know, every imaginable religion in the world. But this is by no means a war against Islam. We&#8217;ve got a great many Arab Americans, for example, who are first class, loyal American citizens. We need to make certain that we don&#8217;t make the mistake of assuming that everybody who comes from a certain ethnic group or certain religious background is somehow to be blamed for this. Clearly, that&#8217;s not the case. They are as appalled by it as we are.</b>
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