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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/02/04/the-left-their-conspiracies-about-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-14829</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 12:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, I thought for sure I&#039;d have drawn a moonbat with that post.  I&#039;ll have to save it for later use ;p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>wow, I thought for sure I&#8217;d have drawn a moonbat with that post.  I&#8217;ll have to save it for later use ;p</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Romano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Romano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Philly Steve -- always the reactionary leftist.  Read the posts carefully and stop trying to make a mountain out of a molehill (I know that&#039;s hard to do as an emotionally driven lefty, but at least try).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Oh Philly Steve &#8212; always the reactionary leftist.  Read the posts carefully and stop trying to make a mountain out of a molehill (I know that&#8217;s hard to do as an emotionally driven lefty, but at least try).</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisG</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/02/04/the-left-their-conspiracies-about-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-14761</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Conservative hate America (among other things)&quot;... Was that not one of your early Mantras Steve?

Considering Rockefeller had Memo-Gate and Leahy was embarrassed by his leaks (but not thrown from congress), Ted Kennedy&#039;s office leaks like a open window, and democrat talking points are repeated by the islamofascists (or is it the other way around?), one would think the left has some serious issues.

But not you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&#8220;Conservative hate America (among other things)&#8221;&#8230; Was that not one of your early Mantras Steve?</p>
<p>Considering Rockefeller had Memo-Gate and Leahy was embarrassed by his leaks (but not thrown from congress), Ted Kennedy&#8217;s office leaks like a open window, and democrat talking points are repeated by the islamofascists (or is it the other way around?), one would think the left has some serious issues.</p>
<p>But not you.</p>
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		<title>By: Philadelphia Steve</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/02/04/the-left-their-conspiracies-about-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-14721</link>
		<dc:creator>Philadelphia Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;One thing for sure, everything a democrat is briefed on is now in the hands of the enemy.&quot;

Are you saying that to be a member of the Democratic Party is to be a traitor to the United States of America?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Re: &#8220;One thing for sure, everything a democrat is briefed on is now in the hands of the enemy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you saying that to be a member of the Democratic Party is to be a traitor to the United States of America?</p>
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		<title>By: Scrapiron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scrapiron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing for sure, everything a democrat is briefed on is now in the hands of the enemy. Was Leaky Leahy in on the briefing, he has the enemy (any enemy) on speed dial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>One thing for sure, everything a democrat is briefed on is now in the hands of the enemy. Was Leaky Leahy in on the briefing, he has the enemy (any enemy) on speed dial.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The effort to paint President Bush and VP Cheney as Pinky and The Brain will never end-even if Democrats take control of the entire Federal govt, it will not end.  The half truths, lies, and distortions must continue lest the Democratic Party&#039;s leadership be held accountable for those lies, for deliberately dividing a nation in time of war, and for misleading so many so grossly.  It&#039;s easier to market the idea that tonight Bushco will try to do the same thing they do every night (try to take over the worrrrrrrrrrld) than it is to accept that the left&#039;s political talking points re Iraq are political-not patriotic-in their intent, presentation, and substance (I use the term substance very loosely here).

I respect people who seek the truth.
I do not respect people who deliberately work hard to ignore it.  

No regime ties to AQ-based on half truth, half quote, spun facts, and flies in the face of thousands of dead AQ bodies left in the USMC advance on Baghdad back in 2003

No WMD threat-based on lack of photo op of stockpiles as if stockpiles are the only possible threat, supported by half quotes, and incomplete denial of professional WMD inspectors&#039; assessment that there was in fact a WMD threat...just not a threat in the form of stockpiles

distorted casualty counts-based on politically-motivated studies that have no basis in substance and are as many as 20x higher than the number of bodies reported

distorted atrocities-US atrocities (Abu Ghraib) exaggerated in quantity and quality while enemy atrocities go completely unreported despite being downright medieval (Vlad the impailer would blush!)

distorted cost-opponents of the war NEVER have a problem exaggerating the cost of the war by combining the cost of the global war on terror, the war in Afghanistan, and the war in Iraq THEN, if that combined number (presented as the cost of the Iraq War) isn&#039;t strong enough propaganda, they fund some &quot;study&quot; as is done for casualty figures, and the new cost presented is as much as 4x as high as the combined cost of the entire war on terror (global, Iraq, and Afghanistan).

The cover up of a cover up of a cover up of a cover up of a cover up of a cover up of a cover up theory-the idea that President Bush somehow knew everything about Saddam&#039;s WMD and ties to AQ before the war, but ignored it, then post-war covered up this fact in not one, not two, not three, not four, but as many as a dozen different bi-partisan investigations.

visual denial-even when Zarqawi admitted to fleeing into Iraq in 2002 in a video, it&#039;s dismissed.  When tapes of Saddam ordering WMD strikes are presented as proof that he was willing to use wmd, they&#039;re dismissed.  When dozens of video and audio tapes of Bin laden have him flat out saying that the Iraq is the central front in their war against the US, the idea that Iraq is the central front is denied, and the very presence of AQ in Iraq is denied.  Zawahiri tries the same thing with his video and audio tapes, and opponents ignore it.  Izzat Ibrahim al Douri does it too, and it&#039;s denied.  Freelance reporters and photographers go to Fallujah, report security is breaking out all over Iraq, it&#039;s ignored, dismissed, and even denied.

No, this pattern of post-war cherry-picking of open source intel is disgusting, and it is purely political...not at all patriotic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>The effort to paint President Bush and VP Cheney as Pinky and The Brain will never end-even if Democrats take control of the entire Federal govt, it will not end.  The half truths, lies, and distortions must continue lest the Democratic Party&#8217;s leadership be held accountable for those lies, for deliberately dividing a nation in time of war, and for misleading so many so grossly.  It&#8217;s easier to market the idea that tonight Bushco will try to do the same thing they do every night (try to take over the worrrrrrrrrrld) than it is to accept that the left&#8217;s political talking points re Iraq are political-not patriotic-in their intent, presentation, and substance (I use the term substance very loosely here).</p>
<p>I respect people who seek the truth.<br />
I do not respect people who deliberately work hard to ignore it.  </p>
<p>No regime ties to AQ-based on half truth, half quote, spun facts, and flies in the face of thousands of dead AQ bodies left in the USMC advance on Baghdad back in 2003</p>
<p>No WMD threat-based on lack of photo op of stockpiles as if stockpiles are the only possible threat, supported by half quotes, and incomplete denial of professional WMD inspectors&#8217; assessment that there was in fact a WMD threat&#8230;just not a threat in the form of stockpiles</p>
<p>distorted casualty counts-based on politically-motivated studies that have no basis in substance and are as many as 20x higher than the number of bodies reported</p>
<p>distorted atrocities-US atrocities (Abu Ghraib) exaggerated in quantity and quality while enemy atrocities go completely unreported despite being downright medieval (Vlad the impailer would blush!)</p>
<p>distorted cost-opponents of the war NEVER have a problem exaggerating the cost of the war by combining the cost of the global war on terror, the war in Afghanistan, and the war in Iraq THEN, if that combined number (presented as the cost of the Iraq War) isn&#8217;t strong enough propaganda, they fund some &#8220;study&#8221; as is done for casualty figures, and the new cost presented is as much as 4x as high as the combined cost of the entire war on terror (global, Iraq, and Afghanistan).</p>
<p>The cover up of a cover up of a cover up of a cover up of a cover up of a cover up of a cover up theory-the idea that President Bush somehow knew everything about Saddam&#8217;s WMD and ties to AQ before the war, but ignored it, then post-war covered up this fact in not one, not two, not three, not four, but as many as a dozen different bi-partisan investigations.</p>
<p>visual denial-even when Zarqawi admitted to fleeing into Iraq in 2002 in a video, it&#8217;s dismissed.  When tapes of Saddam ordering WMD strikes are presented as proof that he was willing to use wmd, they&#8217;re dismissed.  When dozens of video and audio tapes of Bin laden have him flat out saying that the Iraq is the central front in their war against the US, the idea that Iraq is the central front is denied, and the very presence of AQ in Iraq is denied.  Zawahiri tries the same thing with his video and audio tapes, and opponents ignore it.  Izzat Ibrahim al Douri does it too, and it&#8217;s denied.  Freelance reporters and photographers go to Fallujah, report security is breaking out all over Iraq, it&#8217;s ignored, dismissed, and even denied.</p>
<p>No, this pattern of post-war cherry-picking of open source intel is disgusting, and it is purely political&#8230;not at all patriotic.</p>
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