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		<title>By: Wordsmith</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/31/the-primary-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-14238</link>
		<dc:creator>Wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 08:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;McCain is a dimwitted clueless old fart who doesn’t really believe in free speech&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I guess I&#039;ll feign and play &lt;a href=&quot;http://hammeringsparksfromtheanvil.blogspot.com/2008/02/mccain-derangement-syndrome-issue-1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;devil&#039;s advocate&quot;&lt;/a&gt; (or more precisely, the contrarian, Michael Medved, will).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>McCain is a dimwitted clueless old fart who doesn’t really believe in free speech</p></blockquote>
<p>I guess I&#8217;ll feign and play <a href="http://hammeringsparksfromtheanvil.blogspot.com/2008/02/mccain-derangement-syndrome-issue-1.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;devil&#8217;s advocate&#8221;</a> (or more precisely, the contrarian, Michael Medved, will).</p>
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		<title>By: bbartlog</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/31/the-primary-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-14201</link>
		<dc:creator>bbartlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 03:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;weakness in the sector of the electorate relied upon most heavily to actually do the grunt work&lt;/i&gt;

Yes - this is why McCain has done poorly in almost every caucus so far: shut out in Wyoming, third in Nevada, fourth in Iowa... early reports suggest he&#039;s not doing so hot in Hawaii or Maine either. In Louisiana he had some friends in the LAGOP that allowed him to list his delegates on the fusion ticket (pro-family/pro-life) they put together, which allowed him to do well there - but it wasn&#039;t because he had a big organizational effort of his own, he just had connections that allowed him to piggyback. Which is why you need to stop buying into this aura of inevitability that he&#039;s trying to construct...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><i>weakness in the sector of the electorate relied upon most heavily to actually do the grunt work</i></p>
<p>Yes &#8211; this is why McCain has done poorly in almost every caucus so far: shut out in Wyoming, third in Nevada, fourth in Iowa&#8230; early reports suggest he&#8217;s not doing so hot in Hawaii or Maine either. In Louisiana he had some friends in the LAGOP that allowed him to list his delegates on the fusion ticket (pro-family/pro-life) they put together, which allowed him to do well there &#8211; but it wasn&#8217;t because he had a big organizational effort of his own, he just had connections that allowed him to piggyback. Which is why you need to stop buying into this aura of inevitability that he&#8217;s trying to construct&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/31/the-primary-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-14199</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 02:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of us have already taken the pledge to support the eventual nominee of the  party.

The fact that so many would even consider not voting for the nominee documents the weakness in the sector of the electorate relied upon most heavily to actually do the grunt work, donate the money, make the phone calls, put up the yard signs etc.

One of my lib commenters today suggested that McCain was a strong candidate because he and some of his lib buddies might actually &quot;consider&quot; voting for McCain. I asked if he was going to do the grunt work and have received no answer.

P.S.&lt;b&gt; the idea of a super primary is NOT a good idea. &lt;/b&gt; Candidates would only campaign in big states and tailor their message to big city voting blocks. We&#039;d have even MORE liberals shoved down our throats.

It&#039;s a shame we can&#039;t have a rotating primary with changing sets of the smaller states (less than ten electoral votes) being selected to go first, second third before we get to the big states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Most of us have already taken the pledge to support the eventual nominee of the  party.</p>
<p>The fact that so many would even consider not voting for the nominee documents the weakness in the sector of the electorate relied upon most heavily to actually do the grunt work, donate the money, make the phone calls, put up the yard signs etc.</p>
<p>One of my lib commenters today suggested that McCain was a strong candidate because he and some of his lib buddies might actually &#8220;consider&#8221; voting for McCain. I asked if he was going to do the grunt work and have received no answer.</p>
<p>P.S.<b> the idea of a super primary is NOT a good idea. </b> Candidates would only campaign in big states and tailor their message to big city voting blocks. We&#8217;d have even MORE liberals shoved down our throats.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame we can&#8217;t have a rotating primary with changing sets of the smaller states (less than ten electoral votes) being selected to go first, second third before we get to the big states.</p>
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		<title>By: Igor R.</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/31/the-primary-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-14170</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;/blockquote&gt;In the meantime, while we wait for our “purification process” Hillary will have appointed maybe three liberal Supreme Court justice’s —– try explaining that to your grand-kids.&lt;blockquote&gt;

Other than the demographic problem I described, I don&#039;t view what is likely to happen in case of Hillary&#039;s victory as a predictable sequence of events, something like her gradually appointing liberal justices and then the subsequent generation having to deal with the mess they would create.  Explaining THAT to the grand-kids will be the least of our problems.

My only point was that if McCain is elected, a Hillary/Obama character coming to power is pretty much a matter of certainty, barring a nuclear device being exploded somewhere in the US in the meantime.  And then it&#039;s exactly the same scenario.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>In the meantime, while we wait for our “purification process” Hillary will have appointed maybe three liberal Supreme Court justice’s —– try explaining that to your grand-kids.<br />
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<p>Other than the demographic problem I described, I don&#8217;t view what is likely to happen in case of Hillary&#8217;s victory as a predictable sequence of events, something like her gradually appointing liberal justices and then the subsequent generation having to deal with the mess they would create.  Explaining THAT to the grand-kids will be the least of our problems.</p>
<p>My only point was that if McCain is elected, a Hillary/Obama character coming to power is pretty much a matter of certainty, barring a nuclear device being exploded somewhere in the US in the meantime.  And then it&#8217;s exactly the same scenario.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Rovin</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/31/the-primary-madness/comment-page-1/#comment-14164</link>
		<dc:creator>Rovin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Also, if McCain is the nominee, the illegals will be legalized by either of the three remaining front-runners.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Try explaining this &quot;philosophy&quot; to Bush or McCain after the what happened last summer.  They both recieved a rude awakening from a majority of the public that had their representatives running for cover like squirrels down the hole.

In the meantime, while we wait for our &quot;purification process&quot; Hillary will have appointed maybe three liberal Supreme Court justice&#039;s ----- try explaining &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt;  to your grand-kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>Also, if McCain is the nominee, the illegals will be legalized by either of the three remaining front-runners.</p></blockquote>
<p>Try explaining this &#8220;philosophy&#8221; to Bush or McCain after the what happened last summer.  They both recieved a rude awakening from a majority of the public that had their representatives running for cover like squirrels down the hole.</p>
<p>In the meantime, while we wait for our &#8220;purification process&#8221; Hillary will have appointed maybe three liberal Supreme Court justice&#8217;s &#8212;&#8211; try explaining <em>that</em>  to your grand-kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Igor R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Igor R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A better, or a parallel, goal to work towards would be to (1) eliminate &quot;independent&quot; voters from voting in the Republican primaries (2) prohibit party switches for some period of time prior to the primaries.

While any of these solutions may &quot;work&quot;, I think all of this is missing the point (or two points): there IS a power structure that wants the party to move towards the left and proposing &quot;solutions&quot; to the after-effects of that imposed will is trying to treat the symptoms not the root cause.  You don&#039;t think that Crist and Arnold endorsed McCain simply because he was the front-runner of the moment, do you?  Also, if McCain is the nominee, the illegals will be legalized by either of the three remaining front-runners.  It&#039;s academic to argue how the Republican party will be fixed when sooner or later the resultant demographics will make it impossible to have ANY Republican (or a Conservative) to win the nomination for at least two generations after all the &quot;family reunification&quot; is over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>A better, or a parallel, goal to work towards would be to (1) eliminate &#8220;independent&#8221; voters from voting in the Republican primaries (2) prohibit party switches for some period of time prior to the primaries.</p>
<p>While any of these solutions may &#8220;work&#8221;, I think all of this is missing the point (or two points): there IS a power structure that wants the party to move towards the left and proposing &#8220;solutions&#8221; to the after-effects of that imposed will is trying to treat the symptoms not the root cause.  You don&#8217;t think that Crist and Arnold endorsed McCain simply because he was the front-runner of the moment, do you?  Also, if McCain is the nominee, the illegals will be legalized by either of the three remaining front-runners.  It&#8217;s academic to argue how the Republican party will be fixed when sooner or later the resultant demographics will make it impossible to have ANY Republican (or a Conservative) to win the nomination for at least two generations after all the &#8220;family reunification&#8221; is over.</p>
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		<title>By: Rovin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rovin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 18:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;(btw, I received a thank you letter and an email from his campaign.)&quot;

I have to attempt to take a bit of credit for &quot;your letter&quot; Curt.  I wrote the Thompson Headquarters (3 times a week for two months) linking your site and reminding them of the support here.  I guess &quot;Santa&quot; just forgot the little bloggers. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&#8220;(btw, I received a thank you letter and an email from his campaign.)&#8221;</p>
<p>I have to attempt to take a bit of credit for &#8220;your letter&#8221; Curt.  I wrote the Thompson Headquarters (3 times a week for two months) linking your site and reminding them of the support here.  I guess &#8220;Santa&#8221; just forgot the little bloggers. <img src='http://floppingaces.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Rovin.  Not with the anger at Fred because Fred had no choice to drop out.  The earlier primaries in those states ensured he had no momentum and when he came in 3rd in a state that a real conservative should have no problem in he and his campaign knew it had big problems.  While I hate he had to drop out I understand it.  (btw, I received a thank you letter and an email from his campaign.)

Writing him in would only do as Rovin said, it would take votes away from Mitt and give them to McCain.  

No way I can call for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I have to agree with Rovin.  Not with the anger at Fred because Fred had no choice to drop out.  The earlier primaries in those states ensured he had no momentum and when he came in 3rd in a state that a real conservative should have no problem in he and his campaign knew it had big problems.  While I hate he had to drop out I understand it.  (btw, I received a thank you letter and an email from his campaign.)</p>
<p>Writing him in would only do as Rovin said, it would take votes away from Mitt and give them to McCain.  </p>
<p>No way I can call for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Rovin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rovin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Will you take the pledge? Will you to Write-in Fred Dalton Thompson in your state’s primary and force the Republican Party the remember that we are a party of principles and conservatism? Leave your comment below and let’s take back our party and remind everyone that there was only one true conservative in the race.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

While your principals and your heart may be in the right place delburd, (and so was mine), I gave everything I could afford to the Thompson campaign, (including money), and when Thompson dropped out----so did the direct emails----no thanks, plans, kiss my butt, NOTHING!

So, let me ask you delburd?  What&#039;s the purpose and the motivation other than a &quot;fashion statement&quot;?  Of course, for every write in for Thompson would certainly take more votes away from McCain than Romney.  Further fracture the party and elect Hillary Clinton for eight years?

NO THANKS AND NICE TRY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>Will you take the pledge? Will you to Write-in Fred Dalton Thompson in your state’s primary and force the Republican Party the remember that we are a party of principles and conservatism? Leave your comment below and let’s take back our party and remind everyone that there was only one true conservative in the race.</p></blockquote>
<p>While your principals and your heart may be in the right place delburd, (and so was mine), I gave everything I could afford to the Thompson campaign, (including money), and when Thompson dropped out&#8212;-so did the direct emails&#8212;-no thanks, plans, kiss my butt, NOTHING!</p>
<p>So, let me ask you delburd?  What&#8217;s the purpose and the motivation other than a &#8220;fashion statement&#8221;?  Of course, for every write in for Thompson would certainly take more votes away from McCain than Romney.  Further fracture the party and elect Hillary Clinton for eight years?</p>
<p>NO THANKS AND NICE TRY</p>
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		<title>By: delburd</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will you stand strong for our Party ??

Conservatives are in agreement; there was no other truly conservative candidate for the nomination of the Presidency in 2008 than Fred Dalton Thompson. The Republican Party is leaving us with its big government candidates who don’t believe in restrained spending or federalism. Our nation is at a crucial crossroads with threats at home and abroad. If we are going to protect our nation’s identity and our sovereignty, then we must force the Republican Party to return to the conservative prinicples that will lead us forward. It is with that in mind that we urge all conservatives to VOTE FOR FRED DALTON THOMPSON during your state’s primpary. And if he isn’t on the ballot, WRITE-IN FRED THOMPSON. It is imperative that we sent a message to our party and our nation, that it is time to return to ideals of our founders and our constitution. Its time we send a message to our party and the media that this should once again become a serious process among professionals who are serious about the task at hand and not just looking for power and prestige. Its time we return to citizen servants who seek to further the cause of democracy and not just their self interests.

Will you take the pledge? Will you to Write-in Fred Dalton Thompson in your state&#039;s primary and force the Republican Party the remember that we are a party of principles and conservatism? Leave your comment below and let&#039;s take back our party and remind everyone that there was only one true conservative in the race.

http://www.writeinfred.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Will you stand strong for our Party ??</p>
<p>Conservatives are in agreement; there was no other truly conservative candidate for the nomination of the Presidency in 2008 than Fred Dalton Thompson. The Republican Party is leaving us with its big government candidates who don’t believe in restrained spending or federalism. Our nation is at a crucial crossroads with threats at home and abroad. If we are going to protect our nation’s identity and our sovereignty, then we must force the Republican Party to return to the conservative prinicples that will lead us forward. It is with that in mind that we urge all conservatives to VOTE FOR FRED DALTON THOMPSON during your state’s primpary. And if he isn’t on the ballot, WRITE-IN FRED THOMPSON. It is imperative that we sent a message to our party and our nation, that it is time to return to ideals of our founders and our constitution. Its time we send a message to our party and the media that this should once again become a serious process among professionals who are serious about the task at hand and not just looking for power and prestige. Its time we return to citizen servants who seek to further the cause of democracy and not just their self interests.</p>
<p>Will you take the pledge? Will you to Write-in Fred Dalton Thompson in your state&#8217;s primary and force the Republican Party the remember that we are a party of principles and conservatism? Leave your comment below and let&#8217;s take back our party and remind everyone that there was only one true conservative in the race.</p>
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