Comments on: Hillary, Illegals, & The Debate http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/31/hillary-illegals-the-debate/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=hillary-illegals-the-debate Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:54:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: zorro http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/31/hillary-illegals-the-debate/#comment-14187 zorro Sat, 02 Feb 2008 00:13:59 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/31/hillary-illegals-the-debate/#comment-14187 The Political Analysis, the Democratic debate. Both Democratic candidates are very good. Obama or Hillary has “the ability” to become President. Obama has a very interesting charisma that is very likable. Hillary, has fifteen years at least of Media slam to over come historically what many consider is likeable with a brilliant career. Hillary is a person I grew up with and watched in the public arena regardless of the media or political analyst. The one thing that is most striking in the negatives is Hillary will definitely change the direction of money flow in the country which is precisely what the Neo-Con doesn’t want. And for Bill to have a second chance with the hind sight and extraordinary time with experience as a previous president an ideal that is historically presented as an incredible opportunity that very well would change the dynamics of the Democratic movement. Moreover, across the Board, most of the Media, takes the silly position to cry about the ideal that there is not considerably more money to be made within a Clinton economic approach than the current Neo-Con Bush/war approach. Which Clinton’s is very likely to be better. Also, it should be injected that a huge opportunity to redeem himself, Bill Clinton, for poor personal judgments made with his involvement with Lewinski. Here the Evangelist may vote for him to give him the chance, they are forgiving but would like responsible action on abortion and same sex marriage which is possible. They both are great politicians to support, but Obama is so new I needed some way to get to know him. Because with that said Obama has little experience in the ways of power and money, were in a lot of ways the Clinton’s out rank Obama enormously. So, I bought Obama’s book called “Audacity of Hope” to get some ideal of what is in Obama’s head. There are a few surprises which are a disappointment that I will share with you, but read it for your self, likely you all my come away with a different point of view, but that’s life. My view takes a trip into this ideal were Obama is on a rant along with media that supports Obama and his stand against the war in Iraq. There is a huge gap in the understanding and the thought process of real time experience here. Especially displayed by Huffington her descriptions and that other fellow, forgot his name, and actually who answered his own question. Making claim Hillary had no good reason to support her argument in her vote for the war. Sheesh, indeed the whole intelligence system had been manipulated, massaged, tweaked, and cooked very well to confuse not only the electorate, but the representatives. How could anyone make the right choice at that time? And, here, the media constantly asking for an apology from Hillary because of her choice in voting for the resolution with the majority, all the while dismissing the ideal we know now the execution to get the job done was horrible, and still the media continues to talk about that ? Amazing. The real high light is the fact that Obama did not officially act as a Senator till “after” all this voting was done on the Iraq War resolution. An extremely important place in time to dismiss. From my point of view this adds a great deal of irresponsibility to not only Obama but to those in the media that completely ignore the fact Obama did not have to participate in the stress, evaluation, person interactions, and real record in a recorded vote glaringly by the majority of the Senate. Here, Obama did not have to buckle up in the Senate seat to make the historic vote and have it recorded for posterity. Obama can just express his opinion, make speeches, and reject the war in Iraq. Sorry but that’s easy for anyone to do. For those who see this in that penetrating way, like I do, it’s sad for a man to use his influence this way, especially as a presidential candidate. That’s scary.

The Political Analysis, the Democratic debate.
Both Democratic candidates are very good. Obama or Hillary has “the ability” to become President. Obama has a very interesting charisma that is very likable. Hillary, has fifteen years at least of Media slam to over come historically what many consider is likeable with a brilliant career. Hillary is a person I grew up with and watched in the public arena regardless of the media or political analyst.

The one thing that is most striking in the negatives is Hillary will definitely change the direction of money flow in the country which is precisely what the Neo-Con doesn’t want. And for Bill to have a second chance with the hind sight and extraordinary time with experience as a previous president an ideal that is historically presented as an incredible opportunity that very well would change the dynamics of the Democratic movement.

Moreover, across the Board, most of the Media, takes the silly position to cry about the ideal that there is not considerably more money to be made within a Clinton economic approach than the current Neo-Con Bush/war approach. Which Clinton’s is very likely to be better. Also, it should be injected that a huge opportunity to redeem himself, Bill Clinton, for poor personal judgments made with his involvement with Lewinski. Here the Evangelist may vote for him to give him the chance, they are forgiving but would like responsible action on abortion and same sex marriage which is possible.

They both are great politicians to support, but Obama is so new I needed some way to get to know him. Because with that said Obama has little experience in the ways of power and money, were in a lot of ways the Clinton’s out rank Obama enormously. So, I bought Obama’s book called “Audacity of Hope” to get some ideal of what is in Obama’s head. There are a few surprises which are a disappointment that I will share with you, but read it for your self, likely you all my come away with a different point of view, but that’s life.

My view takes a trip into this ideal were Obama is on a rant along with media that supports Obama and his stand against the war in Iraq. There is a huge gap in the understanding and the thought process of real time experience here. Especially displayed by Huffington her descriptions and that other fellow, forgot his name, and actually who answered his own question. Making claim Hillary had no good reason to support her argument in her vote for the war.
Sheesh, indeed the whole intelligence system had been manipulated, massaged, tweaked, and cooked very well to confuse not only the electorate, but the representatives. How could anyone make the right choice at that time? And, here, the media constantly asking for an apology from Hillary because of her choice in voting for the resolution with the majority, all the while dismissing the ideal we know now the execution to get the job done was horrible, and still the media continues to talk about that ? Amazing.

The real high light is the fact that Obama did not officially act as a Senator till “after” all this voting was done on the Iraq War resolution. An extremely important place in time to dismiss. From my point of view this adds a great deal of irresponsibility to not only Obama but to those in the media that completely ignore the fact Obama did not have to participate in the stress, evaluation, person interactions, and real record in a recorded vote glaringly by the majority of the Senate.

Here, Obama did not have to buckle up in the Senate seat to make the historic vote and have it recorded for posterity. Obama can just express his opinion, make speeches, and reject the war in Iraq. Sorry but that’s easy for anyone to do. For those who see this in that penetrating way, like I do, it’s sad for a man to use his influence this way, especially as a presidential candidate. That’s scary.

Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
]]> By: Scott http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/31/hillary-illegals-the-debate/#comment-14098 Scott Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:29:11 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/31/hillary-illegals-the-debate/#comment-14098 For illegal DLs, now against it HotAir has a nice clip of Senator Clinton saying she's against drivers licenses for illegal aliens, AND they have the contrasting clip from an earlier debate showing she was originally supportive of giving drivers licenses to illegal aliens. Even Dems can't keep track of her positions sometimes. Recall that this was the subject of a Sen Edwards ad immediately after her first positions on the issue.

For illegal DLs, now against it

HotAir has a nice clip of Senator Clinton saying she’s against drivers licenses for illegal aliens, AND
they have the contrasting clip from an earlier debate showing she was originally supportive of giving drivers licenses to illegal aliens.

Even Dems can’t keep track of her positions sometimes. Recall that this was the subject of a Sen Edwards ad immediately after her first positions on the issue.

Like or Dislike: Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0
]]>