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As time passes, Steve’s rantings etc are becoming so canned, and so easily debunked that we might as well respond with links to rebuttals he’s ignored (as I did in #36). I sometimes wonder if his real name might be Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf

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Scott,

Do you not know that Steve is a “military genius” in addition to an elite progressive? I swear, he could write for The People’s Cube. He is that blindly dedicated to the left.

Even me with 14 years and counting of active service must not know anything compared to Steve and his progressive, all knowing sources.

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“Hersh’s reporting has been the best of the war. Far ahead of the cheerleaders at FoxNews and the stenographers at the New York Times.”

-So, you’re saying we should believe an opponent of the war reporting from the US 6yrs ago using anonymous sources rather than books from 2006 written by the actual people who were there in Afghanistan?

“And, by “more informed”, you mean “Party Approved”, don’t you?”

-Please show me where I have once cited Fox…just once. So far, you’ve done nothing but provide biased sources, sources that aren’t news sources, sources that don’t even carry the stories you describe because they’re so outdated, and sources that you apparently don’t even read yourself because they contradict your own positions.

“More documentation about the diversion of assets from the Hunt for bin Laden that Conservaties re not permitted to know.”

-Actually Steve, I mentioned this one particular group to you directly in a previous conversation (which you must have ignored?), and by having done so completely destroy your vain attempt at suggesting I or anyone here knows less than you or knows only politically approved facts.

link
““the diversion of efforts from capturing Osama bin Laden,”
-Classic deception and distraction. This article has nothing to do with the hunt for Osama Bin Laden, and the only military unit “diverted” for the invasion of Iraq was the 5th Special Forces Group which ironically was sent to Northern Iraq to fight Al Queda in Iraq which was working as Saddam’s strong arm in the Kurdish territories”
-post#8; 23 Jan 2008

Oh, and btw, the 5th SFG wasn’t rotated out until the end of March 2002, over 100days after UBL escaped into Pakistan, but they were replaced by different forces which were suited for the new mission scope (see also battle of the whale’s ridge). ALSO, the 5th SFG was not/is not a conventional unit-the kind one uses for an invasion. Quite the opposite. The unique aspect of the 5th is that it was the most experienced military unit in the world when it came to regime change through the use of indigenous forces RATHER than invasion. These are the guys who went into Afghanistan in small groups, called in air strikes, and worked with the Northern Alliance so that the Afghans could retake their country with just US support rather than a US invasion (it was called the Downing Plan in terms of Iraq). The very nature of the unit you list debunks your own claim.

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Hersh’s reporting has been the best of the war. Far ahead of the cheerleaders at FoxNews and the stenographers at the New York Times.

Because we cite only news from FOX and NYT. We don’t read Michael Yon, Bill Roggio, Michael Totten, nor a variety of other sources. We’ve never linked to sources in our post, other than from FOX and the NYTs to support our positions. You got us good, Steve.

Hersh has the best reporting in the eyes of the moonbat left. Since you get to cite Seymour Lies, how about I cite Jed Babbin’s account on the Legend of Tora Bora?

Most of the al Qaeda leadership got away,

I was told by FOXNews, NYT (WTF?), Rush, Coulter, and the Right Wing Talking Points Memo that 2/3rds of the al Qaeda leadership at that time, had been killed or captured.

But not one single Conservative is allowed to hold George W. Bush accoutable for those results, because president Bush must be protected from accountability, at all costs.

Steve…tell me, truthfully: Each time you type that out at the end of every comment, you click your heels 3 times, don’t you? It’s ok to admit. We’re all friends here.

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Oh Stevie….

I see you’re hangin’ around this thread an awful lot but totally ignoring the difficult, specific questions that were posed to you on this thread:

http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/30/mukasey-to-dems-waterboarding-not-clearly-illegal/#comments

It will probably be more than a bit embarrassing (even for you) for all of us to see additional proof (again) that you are talking out of your ass but facing your problem is the first step toward getting help.

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Re: ” Try finding something newer, fresher, and more up to date; more informed.”

Hersh’s reporting has been the best of the war. Far ahead of the cheerleaders at FoxNews and the stenographers at the New York Times.

And, by “more informed”, you mean “Party Approved”, don’t you?

More documentation about the diversion of assets from the Hunt for bin Laden that Conservaties re not permitted to know.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2004-03-28-troop-shifts_x.htm

WASHINGTON — In 2002, troops from the 5th Special Forces Group who specialize in the Middle East were pulled out of the hunt for Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan to prepare for their next assignment: Iraq. Their replacements were troops with expertise in Spanish cultures.

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You are spamming again Steve, and your fanatical hatred is showing. How long before you go off the deep end and demand our silent obedience to your masters or our deaths?

The only fanatic hater here is YOU. My vote is that you are wearing out your welcome with your lies, fanatical hate, spam posting, and arrogant ignorance. If any of use posted like you do at a leftist blog, we would last about 2 posts before being banned.

And having been to Iraq, I will gladly keep refuting your lies and hate.

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re: “Most of the al Qaeda leadership got away, and we all know that, had President Bush pursued al Qaeda, instead of diverting assets to hisplanned invasion of iraq,”

Really, so you’re saying that the Bush Admin diverted assets from Afghanistan to build up and invade Iraq in December 2001? Before Sept 2002? Simply didn’t happen, and either you’re a liar or you’re an incompetent fool (trending towards the latter given your continued repetition of debunked talking points)

FYI, your New Yorker talking point is so old even they don’t post the article anymore, and Hersh’s article (based on hearsay and anonymous sources per a heavily biased source, Hersh) is wrong. Kunduz fell on 11/26/01, and his own article says that the flights took off with US help 3wks before 12/13/01. US forces-even special forces and specifically CIA units per Gary Bernsten who led the US CIA ops at the time-weren’t there until December. I submit that Hersh was misled specifically because there’s no way that he was in contact with Delta Force guys in NYC or DC two months after those same guys were in Afghanistan. Bersten’s book, JAWBREAKER, as well as three corroborating books confirm that such CIA assets were still in Afghanistan until they started being rotated out and replaced by fresh CIA units and US Special Operations command in Feb/Mar 2002….which is of course AFTER Hersh wrote his fiction. Ya know, using 6yr old talking points is pretty easy to debunk. Try finding something newer, fresher, and more up to date; more informed.

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