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	<title>Comments on: Peggy Noonans Absurd Bush Rant</title>
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		<title>By: Missy</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/25/peggy-noonans-absurd-bush-rant/#comment-287350</link>
		<dc:creator>Missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Bush is a traitor, plain and simple. He attacked a country based entirely upon his own lies, slaughtering 400,000 innocent people, including 5,300 Americans.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

IMHO, the &quot;traitor&quot; moniker should be hung around your neck.  There has been plenty of time for you to do due diligence,  you instead choose to foolishly perpetrate &quot;the lie&quot; in the &lt;em&gt;oh so familiar, extreme, lefty fashion.&lt;/em&gt;  Lazy, BDS or just too easy to fall back on discredited talking points?  :roll: 

You&#039;ve landed in the wrong spot to deliver your extreme, ugly rant about President Bush, not only have the FA authors studied the WOT from the beginning, they have also poured through every intel, commission, Senate and House report, and then  kindly shared their work with the FA community.

There&#039;s much in the archives, as was Noonan&#039;s &quot;absurd Bush rant&quot;............here&#039;s just a tiny taste of what else is archived, just to put the shame to your faulty comment:

http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/24/media-awash-in-reports-that-pres-bush-did-not-lie-about-threat-from-saddam/

&lt;blockquote&gt;The recent “report” from the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence has a number of conclusions and amendments. Often, when these reports are released, many people don’t have the time or tenacity to read the entire report. Instead, they literally jump to the conclusions and argue their political talking points from there. I’ve taken the time to go through this latest “report,” cut out the conclusions, and added any amendments to those conclusions whenever possible. Readers are encouraged to read the actual report (particularly the “Additional Views” and “Amendments” sections). &lt;strong&gt;It appears that there are at least 150 examples in this report where Democrats have deliberately misled the American people. Examples range from false quotes, blaming Bush Administration officials for making statements not supported by intelligence when the intelligence report cited came out months or even years after the statement in question, misleading wording, and much more. It’s for this reason that the amendments are added to the following Key points/conclusions of the report. By including the amendments and putting them right next to the conclusion that is misleading, readers will see first hand that the report is fictional, distorted, inept, and written with incredibly poor ethical standards of fact-checking to say nothing of the political bias.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Also see the actual amended SSCI committee conclusions:

http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/11/key-points-senate-select-committee-on-intelligence-phase-ii-investigation-report-on-pre-war-intelligence-regarding-saddams-iraq/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>Bush is a traitor, plain and simple. He attacked a country based entirely upon his own lies, slaughtering 400,000 innocent people, including 5,300 Americans.</p></blockquote>
<p>IMHO, the &#8220;traitor&#8221; moniker should be hung around your neck.  There has been plenty of time for you to do due diligence,  you instead choose to foolishly perpetrate &#8220;the lie&#8221; in the <em>oh so familiar, extreme, lefty fashion.</em>  Lazy, BDS or just too easy to fall back on discredited talking points?  <img src='http://floppingaces.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>You&#8217;ve landed in the wrong spot to deliver your extreme, ugly rant about President Bush, not only have the FA authors studied the WOT from the beginning, they have also poured through every intel, commission, Senate and House report, and then  kindly shared their work with the FA community.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s much in the archives, as was Noonan&#8217;s &#8220;absurd Bush rant&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;here&#8217;s just a tiny taste of what else is archived, just to put the shame to your faulty comment:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/24/media-awash-in-reports-that-pres-bush-did-not-lie-about-threat-from-saddam/" rel="nofollow">http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/24/media-awash-in-reports-that-pres-bush-did-not-lie-about-threat-from-saddam/</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The recent “report” from the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence has a number of conclusions and amendments. Often, when these reports are released, many people don’t have the time or tenacity to read the entire report. Instead, they literally jump to the conclusions and argue their political talking points from there. I’ve taken the time to go through this latest “report,” cut out the conclusions, and added any amendments to those conclusions whenever possible. Readers are encouraged to read the actual report (particularly the “Additional Views” and “Amendments” sections). <strong>It appears that there are at least 150 examples in this report where Democrats have deliberately misled the American people. Examples range from false quotes, blaming Bush Administration officials for making statements not supported by intelligence when the intelligence report cited came out months or even years after the statement in question, misleading wording, and much more. It’s for this reason that the amendments are added to the following Key points/conclusions of the report. By including the amendments and putting them right next to the conclusion that is misleading, readers will see first hand that the report is fictional, distorted, inept, and written with incredibly poor ethical standards of fact-checking to say nothing of the political bias.</strong><strong></strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Also see the actual amended SSCI committee conclusions:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/11/key-points-senate-select-committee-on-intelligence-phase-ii-investigation-report-on-pre-war-intelligence-regarding-saddams-iraq/" rel="nofollow">http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/06/11/key-points-senate-select-committee-on-intelligence-phase-ii-investigation-report-on-pre-war-intelligence-regarding-saddams-iraq/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Carlyle</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/25/peggy-noonans-absurd-bush-rant/#comment-287344</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Carlyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 04:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reagan was a human being who was loyal to this country, but he wanted peope to like him, so he did the disastrous amnesty. Bush is a traitor, plain and simple. He attacked a country based entirely upon his own lies, slaughtering 400,000 innocent people, including 5,300 Americans.
This was thousands of times worse than Clinton affair or Nixon&#039;s nothing scandals, yet Bush was protected, and was not even investigated or impeached. His amnesty of 15 million illegals, 5 times the amount Reagan amnestied, would have wrecked thsi country. Thank God the Congress defeated it twice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Reagan was a human being who was loyal to this country, but he wanted peope to like him, so he did the disastrous amnesty. Bush is a traitor, plain and simple. He attacked a country based entirely upon his own lies, slaughtering 400,000 innocent people, including 5,300 Americans.<br />
This was thousands of times worse than Clinton affair or Nixon&#8217;s nothing scandals, yet Bush was protected, and was not even investigated or impeached. His amnesty of 15 million illegals, 5 times the amount Reagan amnestied, would have wrecked thsi country. Thank God the Congress defeated it twice.</p>
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		<title>By: Harvey</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/25/peggy-noonans-absurd-bush-rant/#comment-278287</link>
		<dc:creator>Harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 03:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting essay on Reagan, who I believe is the most influential figure in the last 1,000 years.  I am not joking.  His sins on amnesty and tax increases are forgiven many times over given his achievement in facing down the USSR at an epic moment in history (Adropov ascendant, the USA hobbled and weakened by Liberal self-doubt and decay, two superpowers whose armaments threatened the human race with extinction...).

The five-hour Frontline documentary is among the best I&#039;ve seen on Reagan&#039;s iron will and backbone in pursuit of America&#039;s victory.

Godspeed to the Great One, and may we be blessed with a leader with even 1/10th what he brought to the Office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Interesting essay on Reagan, who I believe is the most influential figure in the last 1,000 years.  I am not joking.  His sins on amnesty and tax increases are forgiven many times over given his achievement in facing down the USSR at an epic moment in history (Adropov ascendant, the USA hobbled and weakened by Liberal self-doubt and decay, two superpowers whose armaments threatened the human race with extinction&#8230;).</p>
<p>The five-hour Frontline documentary is among the best I&#8217;ve seen on Reagan&#8217;s iron will and backbone in pursuit of America&#8217;s victory.</p>
<p>Godspeed to the Great One, and may we be blessed with a leader with even 1/10th what he brought to the Office.</p>
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		<title>By: Smarty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot how he want&#039;s to let illegal aliens who stole people&#039;s identities collect the social security earned in those false identities. Who arbitrates when the citizen claims the income as their own? Is the illegal assumed to be just as honest as the citizen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I forgot how he want&#8217;s to let illegal aliens who stole people&#8217;s identities collect the social security earned in those false identities. Who arbitrates when the citizen claims the income as their own? Is the illegal assumed to be just as honest as the citizen?</p>
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		<title>By: Smarty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush took away many of the conservative arguments for supporting the GOP. Not that it means one should support the dems, but it makes it hard to make a case.

His Generals and his JAGs are going after our own troops.
Our guards in Gitmo and our troops are fighting with one hand tied behind their backs. 
He is overspending like crazy. Cutting taxes, yes, but handing over the deficit as a talking point to the dems.
He is pandering to Mexico. We have border agents in jail for shooting illegal alien drug runners. Those runners get Mexican legal aid and US immunity to testify. We are convicting agents SOLElY on testimony from Illegals.
He allows increased immigration and visas from muslim countries.
He has allowed women to continue to serve in harm&#039;s way.
His military has puffed up females in combat situations that didn&#039;t deserve it. AA is alive and well in the armed forces.
He supports castrating Israel.
He gives money to terrorists in Palestine.
He kept on liberal morons like George Tenet, and got screwed.
He hires asshats like Colin Powell who screwed him too.
McCain-Feingold is unconstitutional.
We continue to give the Chinese intelligence coups.
He is letting central america go socialist, a la Jimmy Carter.
He is about to screw Mushariff over and let Pakistan go crazy a la Carter, only this time, the Paki&#039;s have nukes.

So when I try to argue with a liberal that the dems are bad for us, they have plenty of ammo to use against me that I agree with.

Noonan is right, Bush has broken the GOP. The RINOs own it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Bush took away many of the conservative arguments for supporting the GOP. Not that it means one should support the dems, but it makes it hard to make a case.</p>
<p>His Generals and his JAGs are going after our own troops.<br />
Our guards in Gitmo and our troops are fighting with one hand tied behind their backs.<br />
He is overspending like crazy. Cutting taxes, yes, but handing over the deficit as a talking point to the dems.<br />
He is pandering to Mexico. We have border agents in jail for shooting illegal alien drug runners. Those runners get Mexican legal aid and US immunity to testify. We are convicting agents SOLElY on testimony from Illegals.<br />
He allows increased immigration and visas from muslim countries.<br />
He has allowed women to continue to serve in harm&#8217;s way.<br />
His military has puffed up females in combat situations that didn&#8217;t deserve it. AA is alive and well in the armed forces.<br />
He supports castrating Israel.<br />
He gives money to terrorists in Palestine.<br />
He kept on liberal morons like George Tenet, and got screwed.<br />
He hires asshats like Colin Powell who screwed him too.<br />
McCain-Feingold is unconstitutional.<br />
We continue to give the Chinese intelligence coups.<br />
He is letting central america go socialist, a la Jimmy Carter.<br />
He is about to screw Mushariff over and let Pakistan go crazy a la Carter, only this time, the Paki&#8217;s have nukes.</p>
<p>So when I try to argue with a liberal that the dems are bad for us, they have plenty of ammo to use against me that I agree with.</p>
<p>Noonan is right, Bush has broken the GOP. The RINOs own it.</p>
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		<title>By: thinklets</title>
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		<dc:creator>thinklets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Give George a Break...&lt;/strong&gt;

I alternately pray and then stare at the television’s repeating images of airplanes turning into fireballs and buildings collapsing. All commercial flights are grounded. The economy is in shambles – the stock market closed indefinitely. And nobody ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><strong>Give George a Break&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I alternately pray and then stare at the television’s repeating images of airplanes turning into fireballs and buildings collapsing. All commercial flights are grounded. The economy is in shambles – the stock market closed indefinitely. And nobody &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 05:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your joking right? Are you seriously trying to excuse the bill he pushed through? Did you read his writings on the subject in which he was almost in sync with GWB&#039;s feelings on the subject?

As I said, Reagan was a great President but in no way shape or form was he perfect. Neither is Bush. But both are great Presidents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Your joking right? Are you seriously trying to excuse the bill he pushed through? Did you read his writings on the subject in which he was almost in sync with GWB&#8217;s feelings on the subject?</p>
<p>As I said, Reagan was a great President but in no way shape or form was he perfect. Neither is Bush. But both are great Presidents.</p>
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		<title>By: jpm100</title>
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		<dc:creator>jpm100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 05:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly the illegal alien count at the time of Reagan&#039;s amnesty was about 3 million. A far less intimidating number than we have today. Reagan&#039;s amnesty came with enforcement attached. In fact many of the unenforced laws that could be used to protect the border exist because of Reagan.

Reagan&#039;s amnesty with enforcement was a one-shot deal that was expected to end the issue once and for all. It failed. Its why we know to reject amnesty (even if it has a few trivial penalties to make it not amnesty, technically).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Firstly the illegal alien count at the time of Reagan&#8217;s amnesty was about 3 million. A far less intimidating number than we have today. Reagan&#8217;s amnesty came with enforcement attached. In fact many of the unenforced laws that could be used to protect the border exist because of Reagan.</p>
<p>Reagan&#8217;s amnesty with enforcement was a one-shot deal that was expected to end the issue once and for all. It failed. Its why we know to reject amnesty (even if it has a few trivial penalties to make it not amnesty, technically).</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peggy Noonan lost it many years ago, and this latest column confirms it even more.

On the morning of the President&#039;s inaugural in 2005, she praised his address that morning on FoxNews. She continued to praise his speech later in the day. However, in a column the next day, she said the address was all nonsense with no direction. &quot;A mighty disappointment,&quot; paraphrasing her. What happened overnight? Was it envy that she didn&#039;t write the address, which was well received? Or, that she had become another has been speechwriter?

I think we already know the answer to these questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Peggy Noonan lost it many years ago, and this latest column confirms it even more.</p>
<p>On the morning of the President&#8217;s inaugural in 2005, she praised his address that morning on FoxNews. She continued to praise his speech later in the day. However, in a column the next day, she said the address was all nonsense with no direction. &#8220;A mighty disappointment,&#8221; paraphrasing her. What happened overnight? Was it envy that she didn&#8217;t write the address, which was well received? Or, that she had become another has been speechwriter?</p>
<p>I think we already know the answer to these questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/25/peggy-noonans-absurd-bush-rant/#comment-13106</link>
		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] along with the rumors of a McCain endorsement, in the event that Fred endorse anyone at all? Would Ronald Reagan be &#8220;conservative enough&#8221; for the harsh crowd today, who populate the &#8220;angry-as-hell&#8221; fellowship of right-wingers [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>[...] along with the rumors of a McCain endorsement, in the event that Fred endorse anyone at all? Would Ronald Reagan be &#8220;conservative enough&#8221; for the harsh crowd today, who populate the &#8220;angry-as-hell&#8221; fellowship of right-wingers [...]</p>
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