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	<title>Comments on: A Sad Day for Fred Heads</title>
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		<title>By: bbartlog</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/22/a-sad-day-for-fred-heads/#comment-12877</link>
		<dc:creator>bbartlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of endorsements, did you see that Hunter just endorsed Huckabee? Strange indeed - but then I think and endorsement for any of the others would also have been strange, just in a different way...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Speaking of endorsements, did you see that Hunter just endorsed Huckabee? Strange indeed &#8211; but then I think and endorsement for any of the others would also have been strange, just in a different way&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/22/a-sad-day-for-fred-heads/#comment-12860</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s unfortunate that Fred dropped out. He probably could have stayed through Super Tuesday. And, stay away from the debates. They do little for voters anyway. If you need a debate to help you make up your mind ...

As to CentFla&#039;s premise that it&#039;s the President&#039;s fault for the disarray in the GOP, I think not. The larger problem for the party is that it didn&#039;t stay true to the core value of keeping the budget items, particularly the non-military items, under tighter control. They spent foolishly. It&#039;s more the Congressional Republicans squandering the President&#039;s capital coming off the 2004 victory. 

The other part is the lack of Republican bench strength. Beyond the President, Jeb Bush, Rudy, and Fred, there isn&#039;t much left. Better to say, those who are willing to step up, state their beliefs, stick with those beliefs, and forget the polls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>It&#8217;s unfortunate that Fred dropped out. He probably could have stayed through Super Tuesday. And, stay away from the debates. They do little for voters anyway. If you need a debate to help you make up your mind &#8230;</p>
<p>As to CentFla&#8217;s premise that it&#8217;s the President&#8217;s fault for the disarray in the GOP, I think not. The larger problem for the party is that it didn&#8217;t stay true to the core value of keeping the budget items, particularly the non-military items, under tighter control. They spent foolishly. It&#8217;s more the Congressional Republicans squandering the President&#8217;s capital coming off the 2004 victory. </p>
<p>The other part is the lack of Republican bench strength. Beyond the President, Jeb Bush, Rudy, and Fred, there isn&#8217;t much left. Better to say, those who are willing to step up, state their beliefs, stick with those beliefs, and forget the polls.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/22/a-sad-day-for-fred-heads/#comment-12801</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 05:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have heard he will not be endorsing anyone nor does he want office of any kind including VP or a cabinet position.  Right now, with TN&#039;s primary 2 weeks away, I&#039;d say Fred&#039;s name is already on the ballot, I&#039;m still going to vote for him.  Come November, when all the knee jerk reaction is over I&#039;ll vote whomever is on the Republican ticket, maybe not.  I just feel that it&#039;s going to be another 8 years of Clinton&#039;omics on estrogen regardless of who the republican candidate is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I too have heard he will not be endorsing anyone nor does he want office of any kind including VP or a cabinet position.  Right now, with TN&#8217;s primary 2 weeks away, I&#8217;d say Fred&#8217;s name is already on the ballot, I&#8217;m still going to vote for him.  Come November, when all the knee jerk reaction is over I&#8217;ll vote whomever is on the Republican ticket, maybe not.  I just feel that it&#8217;s going to be another 8 years of Clinton&#8217;omics on estrogen regardless of who the republican candidate is.</p>
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		<title>By: SoCal Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoCal Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a sad day for America.  I don&#039;t regret for one second my support for Fred Thompson, and am proud to have done so.  

I also appreciate how much Flopping Aces did for Fred Thompson...thank you is not enough to say.

I, personally, could not ever endorse Romney, Huckabee, or McCain to anyone, nor could I vote for them.  I think that leaves Rudy.  He was my pick before Fred entered the race, and so am now leaning his way.  I believe Fred Thompson raised the bar on conservative principles, so pray that Rudy will follow suit.

Godspeed to you, Fred, and look forward to seeing you again soon!

Thank you, again, Flopping Aces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>It is a sad day for America.  I don&#8217;t regret for one second my support for Fred Thompson, and am proud to have done so.  </p>
<p>I also appreciate how much Flopping Aces did for Fred Thompson&#8230;thank you is not enough to say.</p>
<p>I, personally, could not ever endorse Romney, Huckabee, or McCain to anyone, nor could I vote for them.  I think that leaves Rudy.  He was my pick before Fred entered the race, and so am now leaning his way.  I believe Fred Thompson raised the bar on conservative principles, so pray that Rudy will follow suit.</p>
<p>Godspeed to you, Fred, and look forward to seeing you again soon!</p>
<p>Thank you, again, Flopping Aces.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/22/a-sad-day-for-fred-heads/#comment-12781</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CentFla: You can deny that the underlying motive of the global warming scam is to promote the agenda of worldwide socialism, but that would only indicate you are either unaware of what underlies much of the issue or choose to ignore it.

And I would ask you to re-read the last line of my comment at #26: &quot;Global warming is the mask for world socialism and McCain would be their patsy!&quot; In no way do I accuse McCain of being an agent of worldwide socialism. Merely their patsy!

Again, you are doing an artful job of trying to spin my words into something I did not say.

That doesn&#039;t inspire or encourage me to support McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>CentFla: You can deny that the underlying motive of the global warming scam is to promote the agenda of worldwide socialism, but that would only indicate you are either unaware of what underlies much of the issue or choose to ignore it.</p>
<p>And I would ask you to re-read the last line of my comment at #26: &#8220;Global warming is the mask for world socialism and McCain would be their patsy!&#8221; In no way do I accuse McCain of being an agent of worldwide socialism. Merely their patsy!</p>
<p>Again, you are doing an artful job of trying to spin my words into something I did not say.</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t inspire or encourage me to support McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: Indigo Red</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/22/a-sad-day-for-fred-heads/#comment-12780</link>
		<dc:creator>Indigo Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the reasons listed by Mike at 26, which I&#039;ve published at my blog, I agree with Curt at 7 that Fredheads will gravitate to Romney. I am.

Also, I have it on good authority that Fred is not endorsing anyone - a big blow to McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>For the reasons listed by Mike at 26, which I&#8217;ve published at my blog, I agree with Curt at 7 that Fredheads will gravitate to Romney. I am.</p>
<p>Also, I have it on good authority that Fred is not endorsing anyone &#8211; a big blow to McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: CentFla</title>
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		<dc:creator>CentFla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you believe the hyperbole about World wide socialism then Ron Paul has a tin hat for you Mike.  McCain wants nuclear power plants not carbon offsets.  He called ethanol a boondoggle and everybody roasted him.  He belives in energy independance, not world wide socialism.  Things like that and Aztlan and other wacko conspiracy theories don&#039;t keep me up at night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>If you believe the hyperbole about World wide socialism then Ron Paul has a tin hat for you Mike.  McCain wants nuclear power plants not carbon offsets.  He called ethanol a boondoggle and everybody roasted him.  He belives in energy independance, not world wide socialism.  Things like that and Aztlan and other wacko conspiracy theories don&#8217;t keep me up at night.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/22/a-sad-day-for-fred-heads/#comment-12773</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CentFla said:&lt;i&gt;&quot;The point is that I don&#039;t think anybody should question his viewpoints on torture quite frankly.  I think the guy gets a pass on that.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I could not possibly disagree more!

I have nothing but respect for John McCain. But to say that I can&#039;t question his position on torture because he was tortured (and it was REAL torture, not dripping water in his nose) is as ridiculous as the Chicken Hawk fallacy.

P.S. I almost forgot to remind you of that McCain has gotten sucked into the Global Warming scam in a BIG WAY! And he was too busy campaigning to even know that the latest energy bill (he missed the vote) requires us all to change to those dim compact flourescent bulbs.

Global warming is the mask for world socialism and McCain would be their patsy!

No thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>CentFla said:<i>&#8220;The point is that I don&#8217;t think anybody should question his viewpoints on torture quite frankly.  I think the guy gets a pass on that.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I could not possibly disagree more!</p>
<p>I have nothing but respect for John McCain. But to say that I can&#8217;t question his position on torture because he was tortured (and it was REAL torture, not dripping water in his nose) is as ridiculous as the Chicken Hawk fallacy.</p>
<p>P.S. I almost forgot to remind you of that McCain has gotten sucked into the Global Warming scam in a BIG WAY! And he was too busy campaigning to even know that the latest energy bill (he missed the vote) requires us all to change to those dim compact flourescent bulbs.</p>
<p>Global warming is the mask for world socialism and McCain would be their patsy!</p>
<p>No thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: CentFla</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/22/a-sad-day-for-fred-heads/#comment-12771</link>
		<dc:creator>CentFla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I respect your reasons for disagreeing with me on this.  I have told you that many times.  

I believe torture IS always an emotional issue.  But that was not my point.  The point is that I don&#039;t think anybody should question his viewpoints on torture quite frankly.  I think the guy gets a pass on that.  

Ironically the reason I am so strongly in his corner is because I too have not changed over all these years.  I will not change my positions simply because the party does.  Now many of my GOP friends will face the same questions I had when Bush beat McCain in 00.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I respect your reasons for disagreeing with me on this.  I have told you that many times.  </p>
<p>I believe torture IS always an emotional issue.  But that was not my point.  The point is that I don&#8217;t think anybody should question his viewpoints on torture quite frankly.  I think the guy gets a pass on that.  </p>
<p>Ironically the reason I am so strongly in his corner is because I too have not changed over all these years.  I will not change my positions simply because the party does.  Now many of my GOP friends will face the same questions I had when Bush beat McCain in 00.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CentFla: I don&#039;t &quot;hate&quot; McCain. If I did, I never would have gone to see him TWICE!

I do however, profoundly disagree with his approach on those issues and more. I&#039;ve been upset that President Bush compromised so much with Democrats for the sake of the new tone. McCain would compromise what I veiw as fundamental conservatives issues in a way that even Bush would never attempt.

And let&#039;s not try and make the &quot;torture&quot; question an emotional one. Not even McCain tried to play that card when I raised the issue with him.

His arguement was that military commanders did not want to use waterboarding on captured prisoners. Had I followed up, I would have pointed out that it was NOT the military that was using this technique (something which McCain knows well) but the CIA and only in at most THREE instances where the technique saved thousands of American lives.

The bottom line: I do not trust John McCain. He does what is good for John McCain, not for conservatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>CentFla: I don&#8217;t &#8220;hate&#8221; McCain. If I did, I never would have gone to see him TWICE!</p>
<p>I do however, profoundly disagree with his approach on those issues and more. I&#8217;ve been upset that President Bush compromised so much with Democrats for the sake of the new tone. McCain would compromise what I veiw as fundamental conservatives issues in a way that even Bush would never attempt.</p>
<p>And let&#8217;s not try and make the &#8220;torture&#8221; question an emotional one. Not even McCain tried to play that card when I raised the issue with him.</p>
<p>His arguement was that military commanders did not want to use waterboarding on captured prisoners. Had I followed up, I would have pointed out that it was NOT the military that was using this technique (something which McCain knows well) but the CIA and only in at most THREE instances where the technique saved thousands of American lives.</p>
<p>The bottom line: I do not trust John McCain. He does what is good for John McCain, not for conservatives.</p>
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