Comments on: More Spin On The Surge http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/20/more-spin-on-the-surge/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=more-spin-on-the-surge Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:42:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Scott http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/20/more-spin-on-the-surge/#comment-12431 Scott Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:32:05 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/20/more-spin-on-the-surge/#comment-12431 It is the premature absence of peacekeeping forces-including American forces that breeds terror. http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/01/iraq_and_911not_the_same_battl_1.html

It is the premature absence of peacekeeping forces-including American forces that breeds terror.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/01/iraq_and_911not_the_same_battl_1.html

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]]> By: jainphx http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/20/more-spin-on-the-surge/#comment-12427 jainphx Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:29:47 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/20/more-spin-on-the-surge/#comment-12427 I'm just wondering! how was the political situation under Saddam? just a question. Do you think many people died violently under his hand, Nah, couldn't have.

I’m just wondering! how was the political situation under Saddam? just a question. Do you think many people died violently under his hand, Nah, couldn’t have.

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]]> By: pagar http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/20/more-spin-on-the-surge/#comment-12424 pagar Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:11:37 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/20/more-spin-on-the-surge/#comment-12424 " both the Khmer Rouge and al Qaeda in Iraq grew because of the presence of foreign intervention including the USA in the respective countries." How does this statement explain the killing of millions in Cambodia and SE Asia after the Americans had left? How does this statement explain the deaths of thousands of Iraqis by suicide bombers? The truth is people do not want to be ruled by terrorists. The only way terrorists can rule is to kill enough of their fellow countrymen to eliminate all independent thought. One can see it in the takeover of Russia, China, Korea, Cuba, Vietnam, Cambodia Iran etc. by terrorists. But as the Korean war and Vietnam and now Iraq have proven. America and their allies can stop the terrorists with superior firepower. So how are the terrorists able to overcome this? Vietnam was the classic example, get the American leftists (a group who have never met a terrorist they did not agree with-as long as they were fighting the US) to cut off the funds that feed that firepower. Then with the hope that American support can bring freedom gone, The terrorists are free to murder their own countrymen into submission.

” both the Khmer Rouge and al Qaeda in Iraq grew because of the presence of foreign intervention including the USA in the respective countries.”

How does this statement explain the killing of millions in Cambodia and SE Asia after the Americans had left?

How does this statement explain the deaths of thousands of Iraqis by suicide bombers?

The truth is people do not want to be ruled by terrorists. The only way terrorists can rule is to kill enough of their fellow countrymen to eliminate all independent thought. One can see it in the takeover of Russia, China, Korea, Cuba, Vietnam, Cambodia Iran etc. by terrorists. But as the Korean war and Vietnam and now Iraq have proven. America and their allies can stop the terrorists with superior firepower.

So how are the terrorists able to overcome this? Vietnam was the classic example, get the American leftists (a group who have never met a terrorist they did not agree with-as long as they were fighting the US)

to cut off the funds that feed that firepower. Then with the hope that American support can bring freedom gone, The terrorists are free to murder their own countrymen into submission.

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]]> By: Scott http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/20/more-spin-on-the-surge/#comment-12422 Scott Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:38:50 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/20/more-spin-on-the-surge/#comment-12422 "both the Khmer Rouge and al Qaeda in Iraq grew because of the presence of foreign intervention including the USA in the respective countries." Or because of political opposition to US forces-forces sent to do good, to protect, to enable liberty, freedom, and in support of the idea that all men are created equal. One wonders how and why people oppose such endeavors, and why the same political opposition to doing good breeds terrorists bent on doing evil, and make no bones about it: AQ and KR are cut from the same cloth when it comes to doing evil.

“both the Khmer Rouge and al Qaeda in Iraq grew because of the presence of foreign intervention including the USA in the respective countries.”

Or because of political opposition to US forces-forces sent to do good, to protect, to enable liberty, freedom, and in support of the idea that all men are created equal. One wonders how and why people oppose such endeavors, and why the same political opposition to doing good breeds terrorists bent on doing evil, and make no bones about it: AQ and KR are cut from the same cloth when it comes to doing evil.

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]]> By: Random http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/20/more-spin-on-the-surge/#comment-12403 Random Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:23:13 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/20/more-spin-on-the-surge/#comment-12403 I look at it from the point of view that we pulled out of Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos in 1975. As a result a group with a "Radical Philosiphy" with the suport of a portion of the native population was able to take over and murder 1.5 million people in Cambodia alone. Not to mention those who died in Laos and Vietnam. In Iraq we are in a country where a certain minority segment (Al Queda) with a Radical Philosophy which in some ways mirrors the Khmer Party Line (We were once all powerful, We cn regain the Glory, he Westerners are the Cause for our misortune, Those who are not with us must die) and wishes to take power. Should we leave I expect the country to collapse, and for the extremists to take over. They would quickly institute laws that would result in the rights of millions being eliminated and the open execution of anyone they deem to be an enemy or not following there philosophy. If am not argueing weather the US by entering those regions Vietnam, OR Iraq lead to some destabalization.It's a moot point. We are there. Now it's a matter of what is best for the people, Ours and theres. Tell me what you think would happen to Iraq, and the Middle east if we started pulling out our troops? Random

I look at it from the point of view that we pulled out of Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos in 1975. As a result a group with a “Radical Philosiphy” with the suport of a portion of the native population was able to take over and murder 1.5 million people in Cambodia alone. Not to mention those who died in Laos and Vietnam.

In Iraq we are in a country where a certain minority segment (Al Queda) with a Radical Philosophy which in some ways mirrors the Khmer Party Line (We were once all powerful, We cn regain the Glory, he Westerners are the Cause for our misortune, Those who are not with us must die) and wishes to take power.

Should we leave I expect the country to collapse, and for the extremists to take over. They would quickly institute laws that would result in the rights of millions being eliminated and the open execution of anyone they deem to be an enemy or not following there philosophy.

If am not argueing weather the US by entering those regions Vietnam, OR Iraq lead to some destabalization.It’s a moot point. We are there. Now it’s a matter of what is best for the people, Ours and theres.

Tell me what you think would happen to Iraq, and the Middle east if we started pulling out our troops?

Random

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]]> By: John Ryan http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/20/more-spin-on-the-surge/#comment-12400 John Ryan Mon, 21 Jan 2008 03:53:10 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/20/more-spin-on-the-surge/#comment-12400 Well random I don't know how much time you spent there, my stay was only 2 months. However my sister has been there since 1994 she is the Dean of the only English language law school in Cambodia and from my time and her time there about the closest analogy that i can come up with is that both the Khmer Rouge and al Qaeda in Iraq grew because of the presence of foreign intervention including the USA in the respective countries.

Well random I don’t know how much time you spent there, my stay was only 2 months. However my sister has been there since 1994 she is the Dean of the only English language law school in Cambodia and from my time and her time there about the closest analogy that i can come up with is that both the Khmer Rouge and al Qaeda in Iraq grew because of the presence of foreign intervention including the USA in the respective countries.

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]]> By: Random http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/20/more-spin-on-the-surge/#comment-12398 Random Mon, 21 Jan 2008 03:28:46 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/20/more-spin-on-the-surge/#comment-12398 The Vietnam-Pol Pot analogy can NOT be stated strongly enough. I have been to Cambodia and it is a true tragedy the brutlity that the people and country have endured. The death toll in Iraq over the past 7 years would be surpassed within 3 months if we just pull out before securing the people. Random

The Vietnam-Pol Pot analogy can NOT be stated strongly enough. I have been to Cambodia and it is a true tragedy the brutlity that the people and country have endured.

The death toll in Iraq over the past 7 years would be surpassed within 3 months if we just pull out before securing the people.

Random

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]]> By: Scott http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/20/more-spin-on-the-surge/#comment-12396 Scott Mon, 21 Jan 2008 03:06:19 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/01/20/more-spin-on-the-surge/#comment-12396 Baghdad Security Improved Tenfold http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/016676.php Anti-war groups make tactical retreat on Iraq http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/01/antiwar_groups_make_tactical_r.html Transition starting in Iraq http://www.kansascity.com/news/nation/story/450069.html Five Brigades Should be Home by July, Gates Says http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=48699 Fear not. What's the worst a Democratic President can do...order a phased withdrawal in Jan 09 (14 months after one has already started)?

Baghdad Security Improved Tenfold
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/016676.php

Anti-war groups make tactical retreat on Iraq
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/01/antiwar_groups_make_tactical_r.html

Transition starting in Iraq
http://www.kansascity.com/news/nation/story/450069.html

Five Brigades Should be Home by July, Gates Says
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=48699

Fear not. What’s the worst a Democratic President can do…order a phased withdrawal in Jan 09 (14 months after one has already started)?

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