I get your point.

To put it bluntly, someone needs to examine whether or not all of his crayons have been properly sharpened; and also if the bright ones are still in the box.

I get this on a daily basis from my Conservative ciurcle (about 90% of my friends and family are Conservative Republicans, who repeat what I said above, almost word-for-word).

And either you are projecting their “hatred” onto us, constantly setting up strawmen conservatives to knock down; or, based upon what I’ve seen you write here, you are projecting your own self-delusions onto them and misinterpreting their counter-arguments.

I pray for you, Steve. I really do.

(Psst: I’m non-religious, on the right, btw)

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“I get your point.”
-If you did, then you wouldn’t have followed immediately afterwards with a demonstration of divisive polar thinking that is completely counter to the idea of the UNITED States of America, and instead you’d have followed with some sort of comment about HOW you think the United States of America could and should unite under common ground as opposed to submission to one political dogma or the other; dogmas like:

“The Republican party has been ordained by God as the most talented, enlightened political party to ever grace the face of the Earth.”

and

“All Democrats, on the other hand, were invented by Satan to promulgate his will upon the earth, and should not be permitted to exist in the presence of such holy people as Republicans”

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“The Republican party has been ordained by God as the most talented, enlightened political party to ever grace the face of the Earth.”

and

“All Democrats, on the other hand, were invented by Satan to promulgate his will upon the earth, and should not be permitted to exist in the presence of such holy people as Republicans”

Now where on here has anyone said anything even close to this you lying sack of fecal matter?

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I get your point.

The Republican party has been ordained by God as the most talented, enlightened political party to ever grace the face of the Earth.

George W. Bush’s beknighted leadership has ushered the United States into the golden age of peace and prosperity, and his noble presence will be remembered as the most wonderful presidency in the history of the world: All Americans should be on their knees every day, praying that his wisdom and impartiality will be with us forever and immediately abolish Congress and the Courts and make him President-for-Life so we may benefit even more.

All Democrats, on the other hand, were invented by Satan to promulgate his will upon the earth, and should not be permitted to exist in the presence of such holy people as Republicans.

I get this on a daily basis from my Conservative ciurcle (about 90% of my friends and family are Conservative Republicans, who repeat what I said above, almost word-for-word).

Sorry that I introduced comments that were not in line with what is supposed to by on this site.

You win.

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“As usual, the “it’s all Clinton’s fault” line comes from Conservatives, as they are required to do in every argument.”
-no one said, “it’s all Clinton’s fault” except you as a means of distracting from proof that all which is bad in the world doesn’t stem primarily or soley from neocon Bushies as has been suggested so many times by you

“this thread was originally about how meanness is permeating ourpolitical discourse.”
-which you agreed was a problem, then proceeded to immediately and ad nauseum demonstrate by arbitrarily labeling and stereotyping anyone who disagreed with you as a bible-thumping conservative who follows lock step the party line without question

“I agreed with that premise. Along the way I made a comment about what I believed to be the cost of George W. Bush’s incompetence regarding the occupation of Iraq.”
-If you agreed with the premise, then you wouldn’t have started labeling people and name calling and stereotyping, and if the occupation of Iraq has been incompetently handled you’ve failed to prove such a claim by comparing it to historically comparable operations.

“My only “insult” in return was accusing Conservatives of being subservient to dictates from the Bush White, as delivered through conduits such as FoxNews, Newsmax, or Rush Limbaugh.”
-not true at all. Again, but arbitrarily labeling people and stereotyping them you insulted people, feigned apology, then immediately and repeatedly went right back to insulting. The meme that everyone but you and/or members of the partisan left must be lemming-locked to Fox News, Limbaugh etc., is false, inaccurate, insulting, and dramatically hypocritical for this reason: your primary insult is that “conservatives” (ie, anyone who disagrees with you) ignore facts and follow partisan news sources, but in making your case, you’ve repeatedly ignored counter facts and simple logic that completely evaporated your own political talking points which you not only got from politically partisan sources which are as partisan or more than Limbaugh and Fox, but you even had the audacity/stupidity to link to them. Imagine if a “conservative” called you a treasonous communist and then cited Fox News, The Weekly Standard, or even The Washington Times? You’d scoff. And despite the fact that yes, you have been called treasonous (some things are treason ya know) no one that you’ve accused of being a “conservative” who “subservient to dictates from the Bush White, as delivered through conduits such as FoxNews, Newsmax, or Rush Limbaugh” has cited those sources or any sources which are as incredibly partisan as your own. Hypocrisy and irony as very close friends.

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Re: “Who was President of the United States when Haliburton sold civilian use only items (oil drilling equipment cannot be used to make illegal arms) to Iraq fully sanctioned under “Oil for Food”?”

As usual, the “it’s all Clinton’s fault” line comes from Conservatives, as they are required to do in every argument.

I was just posting links to where “good Conservatives’ also had close ties with Saddam, to counter your commenet about John Kerry for his “contacts”.

Everyone “meets” with representatives of countries or governments that later proide grist for attack.

I’m sure you are not proud of the autographed Bible and birthday cake that Saint Ronald Reagan gave to Ayotollah Khomennie, the holder of American hostages, are you?

But then, that would mean applying the same Conservatives standard you use to club me to your own heros. Something that no Conservative will ever do.

Besides, this thread was originally about how meanness is permeating ourpolitical discourse.

I agreed with that premise. Along the way I made a comment about what I believed to be the cost of George W. Bush’s incompetence regarding the occupation of Iraq. In retrospect that was a mistake on my part and I apologize.

Since then I have had the topics of:
Congressional authorization votes
Terry Schiavo
John Kerry’s Vietnam war protests
Bush Derangement Syndrome

And a stream of personal insults trown at me. My only “insult” in return was accusing Conservatives of being subservient to dictates from the Bush White, as delivered through conduits such as FoxNews, Newsmax, or Rush Limbaugh. (apparently hit quite a nerve with that as well). And of accusing the Republican Party of being subservient to James Dobson (with demonstrated proof, also quite a nerve).

Sorry if I offended anyone with my opinions.

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“there are horses a**’s in the Democratic party, hypocrits and even those who are incompetent. John Kerry is an example of the first.”

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Re: ” I have been to their sites, met and worked with their members and they would be livid knowing you compared the VVA to VVAW.”

You were right. I ws wrong on that one. I thought that VVAW had, after the war, shifted its focus to serving veterans and changed its name. Sorry.

However John Kerry was still not part of the Weather Underground, as you claimed.

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Steve, ever hear of Code Pink? Their website’s archives will answer the question for you on the names and dates for their aid to terrorists. Zombietime.com has photos of “anti-war” protests showing the same things.

Who was President of the United States when Haliburton sold civilian use only items (oil drilling equipment cannot be used to make illegal arms) to Iraq fully sanctioned under “Oil for Food”? If this third party trading (one party buys something and then resells it) was illegal, than why did not the Dept of State not have and End User Certificate requirement for it?

Since you are such and expert, I assume you know what an EUC is and will not get into it. I would not want to slow down your spam postings and leftist hate.

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So let me guess, Jane Fonda was not part of it either. Please prove the “lie” wrong. The FACT is that you cannot and only rely on far left sites to promote your hate and bile. I have used multiple cross referenced sites from all over in the reference post I gave you (way above). You really do prove Scott correct in this thread with every paranoid “the Christians are coming to get us” fantasy you spout. Here is a hint: I do not go to church except for weddings and funerals. That’s it. Yet to you, I seem to be some sort of “evil conservative”(tm) out to get you.

Oh, yes, as a leftist, you will believe anything your masters tell you. Does that make sense either way it is told? At NO time did I ever use a source you despise and demand CENSORED. However, since these sources offend you so, maybe I will start reading them more. It cannot be any worse that watching CNN make up a lie a block away from me while in Iraq. In fact, since it upsets your paranoia so, it must be a good source.

By the way “Vietnam Veterans of America” is in no way associated with “Vietnam Veterans Against the War” or ANY such group. THAT is a flat out lie and disgusting even for you (which is difficult to do). I have been to their sites, met and worked with their members and they would be livid knowing you compared the VVA to VVAW. The shear fact that you even suggested something SO simple to disprove makes me wonder about your hatred and bile even more.

Though I am sure you will spam post again before I am completed with this post.

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