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	<title>Comments on: Fred &amp; The NH Debate</title>
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		<title>By: JustADude</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/06/fred-the-nh-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-10544</link>
		<dc:creator>JustADude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 21:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you guys think the VP is going to come from this group?

History finds that very unlikely.

What Fred would need is someone to expand the appeal of the ticket and the geographical areas of potential support.

Working that premise I could live with a Fred/Mike Steel run.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Why do you guys think the VP is going to come from this group?</p>
<p>History finds that very unlikely.</p>
<p>What Fred would need is someone to expand the appeal of the ticket and the geographical areas of potential support.</p>
<p>Working that premise I could live with a Fred/Mike Steel run.</p>
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		<title>By: Igor R.</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/06/fred-the-nh-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-10543</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 20:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain reminded everyone about where he stands on Shamnesty.  If that doesn&#039;t do it, than nobody really cares and the almost miraculous last-minute retreat from the brink of Amnesty last summer was just a fluke.  Rudy fessed up to being not very different on the topic.

Fred demonstrated once again that he is the only true conservative in the race.  If his relatively laid-back style is what people care about, then conservatism, substance, knowledge of facts and issues don&#039;t mean a damn thing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>McCain reminded everyone about where he stands on Shamnesty.  If that doesn&#8217;t do it, than nobody really cares and the almost miraculous last-minute retreat from the brink of Amnesty last summer was just a fluke.  Rudy fessed up to being not very different on the topic.</p>
<p>Fred demonstrated once again that he is the only true conservative in the race.  If his relatively laid-back style is what people care about, then conservatism, substance, knowledge of facts and issues don&#8217;t mean a damn thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Malensek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Malensek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 20:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ha! Like this was ever even a remote possibility. *Nobody* would put Paul in a VP slot, even if he was twenty years younger. But then, the only one of the Republicans that looks like a plausible VP pick to me is Huckabee.&quot;

If he&#039;s not a remote possibility as VP, then it&#039;s equally hard to see him as any more than barely a possibility for P.

VP...I&#039;m gonna go with (in no order)
Rudy (gotta carry the big four states: Fla, NY, Ca, and TX)
Voinovich (Ohio&#039;s bigtime in play this time)
some retired general
Lieberman

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&#8220;Ha! Like this was ever even a remote possibility. *Nobody* would put Paul in a VP slot, even if he was twenty years younger. But then, the only one of the Republicans that looks like a plausible VP pick to me is Huckabee.&#8221;</p>
<p>If he&#8217;s not a remote possibility as VP, then it&#8217;s equally hard to see him as any more than barely a possibility for P.</p>
<p>VP&#8230;I&#8217;m gonna go with (in no order)<br />
Rudy (gotta carry the big four states: Fla, NY, Ca, and TX)<br />
Voinovich (Ohio&#8217;s bigtime in play this time)<br />
some retired general<br />
Lieberman</p>
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		<title>By: bbartlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>bbartlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 19:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;nixes a Ron Paul VP potential&lt;/i&gt;

Ha! Like this was ever even a remote possibility. *Nobody* would put Paul in a VP slot, even if he was twenty years younger. But then, the only one of the Republicans that looks like a plausible VP pick to me is Huckabee.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><i>nixes a Ron Paul VP potential</i></p>
<p>Ha! Like this was ever even a remote possibility. *Nobody* would put Paul in a VP slot, even if he was twenty years younger. But then, the only one of the Republicans that looks like a plausible VP pick to me is Huckabee.</p>
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		<title>By: jainphx</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 19:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, but here comes another McCain rant. His insults, then hideous snicker. He shows his serious mental problems, but nobody seems to care. The man is a serious wacko, wake up every one he&#039;s dangerous.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I&#8217;m sorry, but here comes another McCain rant. His insults, then hideous snicker. He shows his serious mental problems, but nobody seems to care. The man is a serious wacko, wake up every one he&#8217;s dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Malensek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Malensek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 16:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So true Bbart...&#039;course, that logic of yours nixes a Ron Paul VP potential.

Remember, I agree with 2 of Ron Paul&#039;s pts:
1) AQ used US war on Iraq in the 90&#039;s as excuse for 911 (happily, he even used the word &quot;excuse&quot; last night)
AND
2) The President should almost never have to take military action without seeking a Congressional declaration (shy of a nuke armageddon scenario...it takes as much time to convene Congress as it does to plan, prepare, and initiate a military action.

HOWEVER...while all the candidates looked tired last night...RP looked like nursing home or hospice potential.  Thompson may be baggy eyed, but RP&#039;s gone into the old folks home of puffy eyed.  It was sad.  When all the candidates (D/R) got together, I thought someone was going to pull him aside and ask if he was ok.  Not healthy looking at all.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>So true Bbart&#8230;&#8217;course, that logic of yours nixes a Ron Paul VP potential.</p>
<p>Remember, I agree with 2 of Ron Paul&#8217;s pts:<br />
1) AQ used US war on Iraq in the 90&#8242;s as excuse for 911 (happily, he even used the word &#8220;excuse&#8221; last night)<br />
AND<br />
2) The President should almost never have to take military action without seeking a Congressional declaration (shy of a nuke armageddon scenario&#8230;it takes as much time to convene Congress as it does to plan, prepare, and initiate a military action.</p>
<p>HOWEVER&#8230;while all the candidates looked tired last night&#8230;RP looked like nursing home or hospice potential.  Thompson may be baggy eyed, but RP&#8217;s gone into the old folks home of puffy eyed.  It was sad.  When all the candidates (D/R) got together, I thought someone was going to pull him aside and ask if he was ok.  Not healthy looking at all.</p>
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		<title>By: bbartlog</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 16:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;McCain/Thompson&lt;/i&gt;

The logic of age sinks the ticket. Everyone (including and maybe especially the VP himself) wants a veep who&#039;s young enough to be a plausible presidential candidate next time around. Anyway, to my eyes McCain is a specialist on foreign policy while Thompson is a generalist, which would make Thompson/McCain more logical - but again McCain would be too old.
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<p>The logic of age sinks the ticket. Everyone (including and maybe especially the VP himself) wants a veep who&#8217;s young enough to be a plausible presidential candidate next time around. Anyway, to my eyes McCain is a specialist on foreign policy while Thompson is a generalist, which would make Thompson/McCain more logical &#8211; but again McCain would be too old.</p>
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		<title>By: bbartlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>bbartlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 15:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Even his insults were subtly and gently constructed&lt;/i&gt;

This is an interesting observation. I would say the same thing, but I think it&#039;s a double-edged sword. On the one hand, Fred scores big points with people who get the insults - and this isn&#039;t the first debate where he&#039;s offered a comeback that I think was lost on more than half the audience. But unfortunately I think the easy zingers may win more votes.

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<p>This is an interesting observation. I would say the same thing, but I think it&#8217;s a double-edged sword. On the one hand, Fred scores big points with people who get the insults &#8211; and this isn&#8217;t the first debate where he&#8217;s offered a comeback that I think was lost on more than half the audience. But unfortunately I think the easy zingers may win more votes.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Malensek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Malensek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred was great last night.  He was the man everyone WANTED him to be months ago.  I dunno if it was Fred or McCain who &quot;won&quot; the debate last night, but Ron Paul actually managed to look even older, slower, and more exhausted than Fred on a bad day, and Mitt took it hard.  Huck didn&#039;t do too well or too bad-his most mediocre debate to date.   The sit down and discuss forum was definitely the best yet imo.

Like I said, a McCain/Thompson ticket-were they to announce it today-would seal it for them.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Fred was great last night.  He was the man everyone WANTED him to be months ago.  I dunno if it was Fred or McCain who &#8220;won&#8221; the debate last night, but Ron Paul actually managed to look even older, slower, and more exhausted than Fred on a bad day, and Mitt took it hard.  Huck didn&#8217;t do too well or too bad-his most mediocre debate to date.   The sit down and discuss forum was definitely the best yet imo.</p>
<p>Like I said, a McCain/Thompson ticket-were they to announce it today-would seal it for them.</p>
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