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	<title>Comments on: San Francisco Plans To Go Ahead With Socialized Medicine</title>
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		<title>By: ChrisG</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/12/30/san-francisco-plans-to-go-ahea/comment-page-1/#comment-10142</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

As an active duty Army officer, I can tell you socialized medicine (as Tricare is) is TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The VA system is pathetic, medicare is full of fraud waste and abuse, madicade is mismanages and NO ONE gets good care.

&quot;Is making sure that ALL children receive excellent medical care &quot;socialized medicine&quot; ?&quot;

No, it is not.  In countries which have this signle payer system, the care is horrible.

&quot;When our elected leaders vote themselves and others out of &quot;socialized medicine&quot; then I may review my own position.&quot;

You mean like rich Canadian leftists who come to Michigan and pay for their care here?

You might want to start reviewing you position.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>John,</p>
<p>As an active duty Army officer, I can tell you socialized medicine (as Tricare is) is TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>The VA system is pathetic, medicare is full of fraud waste and abuse, madicade is mismanages and NO ONE gets good care.</p>
<p>&#8220;Is making sure that ALL children receive excellent medical care &#8220;socialized medicine&#8221; ?&#8221;</p>
<p>No, it is not.  In countries which have this signle payer system, the care is horrible.</p>
<p>&#8220;When our elected leaders vote themselves and others out of &#8220;socialized medicine&#8221; then I may review my own position.&#8221;</p>
<p>You mean like rich Canadian leftists who come to Michigan and pay for their care here?</p>
<p>You might want to start reviewing you position.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Sheldon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Sheldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad thing is there used to be a free clinic in the Haight Ashbury that was not to the best of my knowledge tax-funded.

Sadly time and age have eroded the memories and I was never a patron in any sense of the word--my only contact was correspondence with a Doctor there through the late lamented WELL.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Sad thing is there used to be a free clinic in the Haight Ashbury that was not to the best of my knowledge tax-funded.</p>
<p>Sadly time and age have eroded the memories and I was never a patron in any sense of the word&#8211;my only contact was correspondence with a Doctor there through the late lamented WELL.</p>
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		<title>By: John Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am never quite sure exactly what &quot;socialized medicine&quot; means ?? Is it like the VA ? Or Medicare ? Is making sure that ALL children receive excellent medical care &quot;socialized medicine&quot; ?
Aren&#039;t there already many people receiving &quot;socialized medicine &quot; ? How do those people already receiving &quot;socialized medicine&quot; feel about having it completely eliminated ?
When our elected leaders vote themselves and others out of &quot;socialized medicine&quot; then I may review my own position.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I am never quite sure exactly what &#8220;socialized medicine&#8221; means ?? Is it like the VA ? Or Medicare ? Is making sure that ALL children receive excellent medical care &#8220;socialized medicine&#8221; ?<br />
Aren&#8217;t there already many people receiving &#8220;socialized medicine &#8221; ? How do those people already receiving &#8220;socialized medicine&#8221; feel about having it completely eliminated ?<br />
When our elected leaders vote themselves and others out of &#8220;socialized medicine&#8221; then I may review my own position.</p>
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		<title>By: AF</title>
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		<dc:creator>AF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s make sure Jay is feelin the love!  Make your calls and email em!

I&#039;ve posted this over at our web site for additional help:
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Let&#8217;s make sure Jay is feelin the love!  Make your calls and email em!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve posted this over at our web site for additional help:<br />
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		<title>By: Gregory Dittman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregory Dittman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>San Francisco&#039;s government isn&#039;t that clever.  They could actually hire those 73,000 people as some sort of reserve unit and then increase the taxes to pay for those people.  They would have a job and insurance without having to work.  For those under 16 years-old they could be set up in a state college where many have health insurance programs.

Maybe they could be paid neighborhood watch people, like the Chinese have done (paid people to spy on their neighborhood). San Francisco could get money back from Homeland Security.

The businesses wouldn&#039;t care are much since it wouldn&#039;t be about them and the Federal government can&#039;t tell the city not to hire somebody or not put somebody in college.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>San Francisco&#8217;s government isn&#8217;t that clever.  They could actually hire those 73,000 people as some sort of reserve unit and then increase the taxes to pay for those people.  They would have a job and insurance without having to work.  For those under 16 years-old they could be set up in a state college where many have health insurance programs.</p>
<p>Maybe they could be paid neighborhood watch people, like the Chinese have done (paid people to spy on their neighborhood). San Francisco could get money back from Homeland Security.</p>
<p>The businesses wouldn&#8217;t care are much since it wouldn&#8217;t be about them and the Federal government can&#8217;t tell the city not to hire somebody or not put somebody in college.</p>
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