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		<title>By: Dems supported waterboarding in 2002? - UPDATED &#124; The Anchoress</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dems supported waterboarding in 2002? - UPDATED &#124; The Anchoress</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] writing: Instapundit. Sister Toldjah Sundries Shack Jules Crittenden Flopping Aces Gateway Pundit    The Anchoress pinged back with 2007: The year of the &#8220;never mind&#8221; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: SealPatriot</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/12/09/waterboarding-they-knew-all-al/comment-page-1/#comment-9340</link>
		<dc:creator>SealPatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I am not Dead Wrong. There is, in fact far less willing participants in Terrorist Organizations. Thus Lowering their recruitment rates. That&#039;s how it is today, I doubt will be any different tomorrow. Given that the more these organizations kill the more the Muslim society turns against them because they are soiling the integrity of both the societal standards of Islam and the it&#039;s reputation. They also cause other people to become prejudice of the people who practice that religion. Also, the insurgents are counted as terrorists. However, I doubt they can still attack Jordan with VX or conduct suicide bombings in Turkey and Saudi Arabia as they were able to before. When they were terrorists that is!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>No, I am not Dead Wrong. There is, in fact far less willing participants in Terrorist Organizations. Thus Lowering their recruitment rates. That&#8217;s how it is today, I doubt will be any different tomorrow. Given that the more these organizations kill the more the Muslim society turns against them because they are soiling the integrity of both the societal standards of Islam and the it&#8217;s reputation. They also cause other people to become prejudice of the people who practice that religion. Also, the insurgents are counted as terrorists. However, I doubt they can still attack Jordan with VX or conduct suicide bombings in Turkey and Saudi Arabia as they were able to before. When they were terrorists that is!</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/12/09/waterboarding-they-knew-all-al/comment-page-1/#comment-9339</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Does that mean we will be next on your list of people to be tortured?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, that&#039;s what it means....

Retarded....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>Does that mean we will be next on your list of people to be tortured?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s what it means&#8230;.</p>
<p>Retarded&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Philadelphia Steve</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/12/09/waterboarding-they-knew-all-al/comment-page-1/#comment-9338</link>
		<dc:creator>Philadelphia Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;- True, but many of the people who carry out the agenda that happens to be Bin Laden&#039;s brain child are not (free, but for most cases alive). Actually, there has been a decrease in both terror activity and recruitment in the world, especially with the Al Qaeda Network.&quot;

Dead wrong.

The Bush Administration has cooked the book by dropping some of the acts from the &quot;terrorist&quot; list, such as attacks occurring in Iraq.

But the, since Loyal Bushies love to know that people are being tortured, the torture will go on.


Re: &quot;As far as insiders are concerned. That is a typical practice of both parties. If you were implying that and not just Republicans practicing it then I would most certainly agree with you.&quot;

No.  I am referring to neoConservatives using unnamed sources as their &quot;proof&quot; that torture has prevented attacks.  That has nothing to do with political leaking of other information.  It has everything to do with your tryng to change the subject from the fact that you cannot document (reliably) a single success from turing America toward torture.


re: &quot;You liberals are a scary and dangerous breed.&quot;

Does that mean we will be next on your list of people to be tortured?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Re: &#8220;- True, but many of the people who carry out the agenda that happens to be Bin Laden&#8217;s brain child are not (free, but for most cases alive). Actually, there has been a decrease in both terror activity and recruitment in the world, especially with the Al Qaeda Network.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dead wrong.</p>
<p>The Bush Administration has cooked the book by dropping some of the acts from the &#8220;terrorist&#8221; list, such as attacks occurring in Iraq.</p>
<p>But the, since Loyal Bushies love to know that people are being tortured, the torture will go on.</p>
<p>Re: &#8220;As far as insiders are concerned. That is a typical practice of both parties. If you were implying that and not just Republicans practicing it then I would most certainly agree with you.&#8221;</p>
<p>No.  I am referring to neoConservatives using unnamed sources as their &#8220;proof&#8221; that torture has prevented attacks.  That has nothing to do with political leaking of other information.  It has everything to do with your tryng to change the subject from the fact that you cannot document (reliably) a single success from turing America toward torture.</p>
<p>re: &#8220;You liberals are a scary and dangerous breed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does that mean we will be next on your list of people to be tortured?</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/12/09/waterboarding-they-knew-all-al/comment-page-1/#comment-9337</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Otherwise you are draging America&#039;s honor through the mud for an abhorent practice that does not provide any increase in &quot;safety&quot;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Because of waterboarding KSM is no longer a threat and gave us so much information the 9/11 commission report footnoted his confessions over 100 times.  The information he provided included names and addresses of al-Qaeda agents who now are no longer a threat to us PLUS he gave up the library tower plot which saved thousands of lives.

You liberals are a scary and dangerous breed.  To think you wouldn&#039;t torture someone to save thousands of innocent peoples lives is just plain disgusting.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>Otherwise you are draging America&#8217;s honor through the mud for an abhorent practice that does not provide any increase in &#8220;safety&#8221;.</p></blockquote>
<p>Because of waterboarding KSM is no longer a threat and gave us so much information the 9/11 commission report footnoted his confessions over 100 times.  The information he provided included names and addresses of al-Qaeda agents who now are no longer a threat to us PLUS he gave up the library tower plot which saved thousands of lives.</p>
<p>You liberals are a scary and dangerous breed.  To think you wouldn&#8217;t torture someone to save thousands of innocent peoples lives is just plain disgusting.</p>
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		<title>By: SealPatriot</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/12/09/waterboarding-they-knew-all-al/comment-page-1/#comment-9336</link>
		<dc:creator>SealPatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Philadelphia Steve Says; &quot;But Osama bin laden is still free, despite torture.

Show me real proof, with names and dates not supplied &quot;on background&quot; or by un-named &quot;insiders&quot;.

Otherwise you are draging America&#039;s honor through the mud for an abhorent practice that does not provide any increase in &quot;safety&quot;.&quot;

- True, but many of the people who carry out the agenda that happens to be Bin Laden&#039;s brain child are not (free, but for most cases alive). Actually, there has been a decrease in both terror activity and recruitment in the world, especially with the Al Qaeda Network. In fact, the suicidal techniques that they practice go against the Bedhouin Societal Standards, and are also a flagrant violation of the Koran&#039;s teachings.

As far as insiders are concerned. That is a typical practice of both parties. If you were implying that and not just Republicans practicing it then I would most certainly agree with you.

Just recently, Rolling Stone Magazine made use of the same tactic to exploit the possiblity of making themselves sound credible. They tried to assert that Bush&#039;s Administration was already planning a ground assault on Iran. They said that Insiders tipped them off about it. Just plain ludicrous, not because it had a controversial issue but because I didn&#039;t think they were credible.

Plus, the fact that they were prone to already having a political bias that was famous for it&#039;s historical exploitation in the playing fields of &quot;Libel&quot;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Philadelphia Steve Says; &#8220;But Osama bin laden is still free, despite torture.</p>
<p>Show me real proof, with names and dates not supplied &#8220;on background&#8221; or by un-named &#8220;insiders&#8221;.</p>
<p>Otherwise you are draging America&#8217;s honor through the mud for an abhorent practice that does not provide any increase in &#8220;safety&#8221;.&#8221;</p>
<p>- True, but many of the people who carry out the agenda that happens to be Bin Laden&#8217;s brain child are not (free, but for most cases alive). Actually, there has been a decrease in both terror activity and recruitment in the world, especially with the Al Qaeda Network. In fact, the suicidal techniques that they practice go against the Bedhouin Societal Standards, and are also a flagrant violation of the Koran&#8217;s teachings.</p>
<p>As far as insiders are concerned. That is a typical practice of both parties. If you were implying that and not just Republicans practicing it then I would most certainly agree with you.</p>
<p>Just recently, Rolling Stone Magazine made use of the same tactic to exploit the possiblity of making themselves sound credible. They tried to assert that Bush&#8217;s Administration was already planning a ground assault on Iran. They said that Insiders tipped them off about it. Just plain ludicrous, not because it had a controversial issue but because I didn&#8217;t think they were credible.</p>
<p>Plus, the fact that they were prone to already having a political bias that was famous for it&#8217;s historical exploitation in the playing fields of &#8220;Libel&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Philadelphia Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philadelphia Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame on the Democrats who kept their mouths shut about torturing human beings.

But double shame on Conservatives who now make it official American policy to practice torture.

For those Conservatives who love to know that America is torturing people:  Can you document a sinlge case of your justification of torture:  The &quot;24&quot; fictional TV show situation of the ticking time bomb, found via torture?  We keep hearing you justify it because there is a bomb hidden somewhere.  Where and when was it?

But Osama bin laden is still free, despite torture.

Show me real proof, with names and dates not supplied &quot;on background&quot; or by un-named &quot;insiders&quot;.

Otherwise you are draging America&#039;s honor through the mud for an abhorent practice that does not provide any increase in &quot;safety&quot;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Shame on the Democrats who kept their mouths shut about torturing human beings.</p>
<p>But double shame on Conservatives who now make it official American policy to practice torture.</p>
<p>For those Conservatives who love to know that America is torturing people:  Can you document a sinlge case of your justification of torture:  The &#8220;24&#8243; fictional TV show situation of the ticking time bomb, found via torture?  We keep hearing you justify it because there is a bomb hidden somewhere.  Where and when was it?</p>
<p>But Osama bin laden is still free, despite torture.</p>
<p>Show me real proof, with names and dates not supplied &#8220;on background&#8221; or by un-named &#8220;insiders&#8221;.</p>
<p>Otherwise you are draging America&#8217;s honor through the mud for an abhorent practice that does not provide any increase in &#8220;safety&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And the excuse that &quot;we had to destroy the evidence to protect the identities of our agents&quot; just is not believable to most Americans.&lt;/i&gt;

Speaking as an actual American, I can assure you it makes perfect sense.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><i>And the excuse that &#8220;we had to destroy the evidence to protect the identities of our agents&#8221; just is not believable to most Americans.</i></p>
<p>Speaking as an actual American, I can assure you it makes perfect sense.</p>
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		<title>By: David M</title>
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		<dc:creator>David M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Thunder Run has linked to this post in the - &lt;a href=&quot;http://thunderrun.blogspot.com/2007/12/web-reconnaissance-for-12102007.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Web Reconnaissance for 12/10/2007 &lt;/a&gt; A short recon of whatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the day...so check back often.
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		<title>By: Scrapiron</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/12/09/waterboarding-they-knew-all-al/comment-page-1/#comment-9332</link>
		<dc:creator>Scrapiron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biden is slipping deeper and deeper into insanity. Time to get him off the street before he becomes another of the church shooters.
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