Comments on: The New CIA Leak – Tapes Destroyed http://floppingaces.net/2007/12/06/the-new-cia-leak-tapes-destroy/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-new-cia-leak-tapes-destroy Sat, 11 Feb 2012 01:10:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: John Ryan http://floppingaces.net/2007/12/06/the-new-cia-leak-tapes-destroy/#comment-9252 John Ryan Fri, 07 Dec 2007 22:24:48 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/12/06/the-new-cia-leak-tapes-destroyed/#comment-9252 If the CIA van not keep one video tape safe I think we should seriously start thinking about firing a whole lot of people.

If the CIA van not keep one video tape safe I think we should seriously start thinking about firing a whole lot of people.

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]]> By: eja http://floppingaces.net/2007/12/06/the-new-cia-leak-tapes-destroy/#comment-9251 eja Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:42:08 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/12/06/the-new-cia-leak-tapes-destroyed/#comment-9251 We know we have been lied to, we know they're still doing it, let's get rid of these animals.

We know we have been lied to, we know they’re still doing it, let’s get rid of these animals.

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]]> By: Thom http://floppingaces.net/2007/12/06/the-new-cia-leak-tapes-destroy/#comment-9250 Thom Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:13:47 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/12/06/the-new-cia-leak-tapes-destroyed/#comment-9250 Trying to turn this into "They don't care so much about CIA agents now" is brain-damaging in its obtuseness. Hey - be sure to use this tack in the future. If Bush is impeached, bring up Clinton and say "They don't care so much about presidents now." It's freaking brilliant.

Trying to turn this into “They don’t care so much about CIA agents now” is brain-damaging in its obtuseness. Hey – be sure to use this tack in the future. If Bush is impeached, bring up Clinton and say “They don’t care so much about presidents now.” It’s freaking brilliant.

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]]> By: John Ryan http://floppingaces.net/2007/12/06/the-new-cia-leak-tapes-destroy/#comment-9249 John Ryan Fri, 07 Dec 2007 17:35:06 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/12/06/the-new-cia-leak-tapes-destroyed/#comment-9249 Another hard hit for the ultra right. It just keeps looking worse for them. And when Fred seems to be their best hope it doesn't look good for their future.

Another hard hit for the ultra right. It just keeps looking worse for them.
And when Fred seems to be their best hope it doesn’t look good for their future.

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]]> By: Curt http://floppingaces.net/2007/12/06/the-new-cia-leak-tapes-destroy/#comment-9248 Curt Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:21:34 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/12/06/the-new-cia-leak-tapes-destroyed/#comment-9248 "The CIA did not say to the court in its original filing that it had no terrorist tapes at all. It would be wrong to assert that," CIA spokesman George Little said. The 9/11 Commission referenced the 2002 interrogations of Abu Zubaydah and Binalshibh multiple times throughout its report, but cited written documents and audiotapes only. CIA Spokesman Mark Mansfield told FOX News the tapes were not destroyed while the 9/11 Commission was active so that they would be avilable if ever requested for its report. "The agency went to great lengths to meet the requests of the 9/11 Commission," Mansfield told FOX News. "As Director Hayden pointed out in his statement, the tapes were destroyed only when it was determined they were no longer of intelligence value and not relevant to any internal, legislative, or judicial inquiries."

“The CIA did not say to the court in its original filing that it had no terrorist tapes at all. It would be wrong to assert that,” CIA spokesman George Little said.

The 9/11 Commission referenced the 2002 interrogations of Abu Zubaydah and Binalshibh multiple times throughout its report, but cited written documents and audiotapes only.

CIA Spokesman Mark Mansfield told FOX News the tapes were not destroyed while the 9/11 Commission was active so that they would be avilable if ever requested for its report.

“The agency went to great lengths to meet the requests of the 9/11 Commission,” Mansfield told FOX News. “As Director Hayden pointed out in his statement, the tapes were destroyed only when it was determined they were no longer of intelligence value and not relevant to any internal, legislative, or judicial inquiries.”

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]]> By: JustADude http://floppingaces.net/2007/12/06/the-new-cia-leak-tapes-destroy/#comment-9247 JustADude Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:16:52 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/12/06/the-new-cia-leak-tapes-destroyed/#comment-9247 The CIA says the tapes were destroyed late in 2005, a year marked by increasing pressure from defense attorneys to obtain videotapes of detainee interrogations. The scandal over harsh treatment of detainees at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq had focused public attention on interrogation techniques. Beginning in 2003, attorneys for al-Qaida conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui began seeking videotapes of interrogations they believed might help them show their client wasn't a part of the 9/11 attacks. These requests heated up in 2005 as the defense slowly learned the identities of more detainees in U.S. custody. In May 2005, U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema ordered the government to disclose whether interrogations were recorded. The government objected to that order, and the judge modified it on Nov. 3, 2005, to ask for confirmation of whether the government "has video or audio tapes of these interrogations" and then named specific ones. Eleven days later, the government denied it had video or audio tapes of those specific interrogations. Last month, the CIA admitted to Brinkema and a circuit judge that it had failed to hand over tapes of enemy combatant witnesses. Those interrogations were not part of the CIA's detention program and were not conducted or recorded by the agency, the agency said.

The CIA says the tapes were destroyed late in 2005, a year marked by increasing pressure from defense attorneys to obtain videotapes of detainee interrogations. The scandal over harsh treatment of detainees at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq had focused public attention on interrogation techniques.

Beginning in 2003, attorneys for al-Qaida conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui began seeking videotapes of interrogations they believed might help them show their client wasn’t a part of the 9/11 attacks. These requests heated up in 2005 as the defense slowly learned the identities of more detainees in U.S. custody.

In May 2005, U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema ordered the government to disclose whether interrogations were recorded. The government objected to that order, and the judge modified it on Nov. 3, 2005, to ask for confirmation of whether the government “has video or audio tapes of these interrogations” and then named specific ones. Eleven days later, the government denied it had video or audio tapes of those specific interrogations.

Last month, the CIA admitted to Brinkema and a circuit judge that it had failed to hand over tapes of enemy combatant witnesses. Those interrogations were not part of the CIA’s detention program and were not conducted or recorded by the agency, the agency said.

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]]> By: Buckeye http://floppingaces.net/2007/12/06/the-new-cia-leak-tapes-destroy/#comment-9246 Buckeye Fri, 07 Dec 2007 12:41:53 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/12/06/the-new-cia-leak-tapes-destroyed/#comment-9246 I am finding it more and more difficult to find sympathy for the terrorists as I continue to read about the atrocities they commit. Instead the pictures that come to my mind are those of Americans burning to death or jumping to their death when the WTC was destroyed, then terrorists jumping for joy in the streets.

I am finding it more and more difficult to find sympathy for the terrorists as I continue to read about the atrocities they commit. Instead the pictures that come to my mind are those of Americans burning to death or jumping to their death when the WTC was destroyed, then terrorists jumping for joy in the streets.

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]]> By: JustADude http://floppingaces.net/2007/12/06/the-new-cia-leak-tapes-destroy/#comment-9245 JustADude Fri, 07 Dec 2007 08:53:14 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/12/06/the-new-cia-leak-tapes-destroyed/#comment-9245 First the tapes on showed severe interrogation techniques NOT torture even though some still want to call it that. Second Hayden said all that was done was legal after reviewing all the documentation from the time of destruction so that would eliminate real torture Third legal methods would still set off the easily offended Fourth the judge may have asked only for interrogations which had relevance to Mr Moussaoui and if he was not mentioned on the tapes they could be excluded.

First the tapes on showed severe interrogation techniques NOT torture even though some still want to call it that.

Second Hayden said all that was done was legal after reviewing all the documentation from the time of destruction so that would eliminate real torture

Third legal methods would still set off the easily offended

Fourth the judge may have asked only for interrogations which had relevance to Mr Moussaoui and if he was not mentioned on the tapes they could be excluded.

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