Comments on: The Unserious Candidate http://floppingaces.net/2007/11/17/the-unserious-candidate/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-unserious-candidate Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:45:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Curt http://floppingaces.net/2007/11/17/the-unserious-candidate/#comment-8527 Curt Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:44:55 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/17/the-unserious-candidate/#comment-8527 <blockquote>I challenge you! I'll show you what a little school boy you really are. Are you ready to be schooled?</blockquote> Um, yeah. Who sounds like the schoolkid here? You PaulBots are a funny bunch.

I challenge you! I’ll show you what a little school boy you really are. Are you ready to be schooled?

Um, yeah. Who sounds like the schoolkid here?

You PaulBots are a funny bunch.

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]]> By: Katharine Taylor http://floppingaces.net/2007/11/17/the-unserious-candidate/#comment-8526 Katharine Taylor Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:44:06 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/17/the-unserious-candidate/#comment-8526 Hey Curt, I'm interested to know who you are voting for this election in 2008. I'm sure I could find sustantially more material on any candidate you present left, right, center, whatever facade you buy into. In fact,I dare you to post who you're voting for. I challenge you! I'll show you what a little school boy you really are. Are you ready to be schooled?

Hey Curt,

I’m interested to know who you are voting for this election in 2008. I’m sure I could find sustantially more material on any candidate you present left, right, center, whatever facade you buy into. In fact,I dare you to post who you’re voting for. I challenge you! I’ll show you what a little school boy you really are. Are you ready to be schooled?

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]]> By: wer http://floppingaces.net/2007/11/17/the-unserious-candidate/#comment-8525 wer Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:34:28 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/17/the-unserious-candidate/#comment-8525 her article is filled with distortions and misquotes - I think she had shit in her ears when she heard him speak <a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZTJmOWM2ZGQzNzAzOTQwYWJlMDg4YjJiMjE4MWRlZTY" rel="nofollow">http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZTJmOWM2ZGQzNzAzOTQwYWJlMDg4YjJiMjE4MWRlZTY</a>

her article is filled with distortions and misquotes – I think she had shit in her ears when she heard him speak

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZTJmOWM2ZGQzNzAzOTQwYWJlMDg4YjJiMjE4MWRlZTY

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]]> By: Kevin http://floppingaces.net/2007/11/17/the-unserious-candidate/#comment-8524 Kevin Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:07:37 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/17/the-unserious-candidate/#comment-8524 Mike, I believe this is as close as we can get to agreeing to disagree. I understand your concerns regarding a Ron Paul independent run. I have already pointed out that Ron Paul has clearly and repeatedly denied any intention of running as an independent. I can't guarantee that he will continue to hold this position but I will say that if Ron Paul runs as an independent he will lose my support. On the Reagan endorsement front, I agree with you, kind words are not an endorsement. You are confusing me with the original poster. In my post I was carefull to state that "Ronald Regan had this to say about Ron Paul". I wanted to show where the original poster had gotten the idea that Reagan had stepped out of the grave to root for Ron Paul. You keep asking about Ron Paul's chances for getting the republican nomination. Quite frankly his only chance is based on convincing people like Mike's America that he is a "serious candidate". I can only hope that when Ron Paul makes it to South Carolina you will be there to ask him the hard questions.

Mike,
I believe this is as close as we can get to agreeing to disagree.

I understand your concerns regarding a Ron Paul independent run. I have already pointed out that Ron Paul has clearly and repeatedly denied any intention of running as an independent. I can’t guarantee that he will continue to hold this position but I will say that if Ron Paul runs as an independent he will lose my support.

On the Reagan endorsement front, I agree with you, kind words are not an endorsement. You are confusing me with the original poster. In my post I was carefull to state that “Ronald Regan had this to say about Ron Paul”. I wanted to show where the original poster had gotten the idea that Reagan had stepped out of the grave to root for Ron Paul.

You keep asking about Ron Paul’s chances for getting the republican nomination. Quite frankly his only chance is based on convincing people like Mike’s America that he is a “serious candidate”. I can only hope that when Ron Paul makes it to South Carolina you will be there to ask him the hard questions.

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]]> By: Mike's America http://floppingaces.net/2007/11/17/the-unserious-candidate/#comment-8523 Mike's America Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:48:04 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/17/the-unserious-candidate/#comment-8523 David & Kevin: It's entirely possible for Ron Paul to run as an Independent. Perhaps he wouldn't be able to run as a Libertarian, but there's little to stop him from making an independent run. As for the Reagan "endorsement" it is nothing of the kind. Do you know how many kind words President Regan issued to Congressmen? Do you know how many Congressmen were invited to ride with RR on Air Force One? Send your boy RP down to Hilton Head next week so I can ask him to state his absolute and unequivocal denial that he intends to run as an Independent. Unless he says in clear language that he will not run if he doesn't get the nomination I would consider the door open. And why not? I bet most of you folks would happily walk off that cliff with him. Ready to take the pledge yourselves?

David & Kevin: It’s entirely possible for Ron Paul to run as an Independent. Perhaps he wouldn’t be able to run as a Libertarian, but there’s little to stop him from making an independent run.

As for the Reagan “endorsement” it is nothing of the kind. Do you know how many kind words President Regan issued to Congressmen? Do you know how many Congressmen were invited to ride with RR on Air Force One?

Send your boy RP down to Hilton Head next week so I can ask him to state his absolute and unequivocal denial that he intends to run as an Independent. Unless he says in clear language that he will not run if he doesn’t get the nomination I would consider the door open.

And why not? I bet most of you folks would happily walk off that cliff with him.

Ready to take the pledge yourselves?

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]]> By: David http://floppingaces.net/2007/11/17/the-unserious-candidate/#comment-8522 David Mon, 19 Nov 2007 02:21:35 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/17/the-unserious-candidate/#comment-8522 Mike's America- Surely, with your political background, you know that many states have "sore-loser" laws that prevent a candidate from participating in a general election after losing a primary. Since the ballot-registration for candidates has already occurred in a number of states, Paul wouldn't be able to run as a Libertarian if he lost the Republican nomination. Hence, there is no need for him to "forswear any independent candidacy".

Mike’s America-
Surely, with your political background, you know that many states have “sore-loser” laws that prevent a candidate from participating in a general election after losing a primary. Since the ballot-registration for candidates has already occurred in a number of states, Paul wouldn’t be able to run as a Libertarian if he lost the Republican nomination. Hence, there is no need for him to “forswear any independent candidacy”.

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]]> By: Kevin http://floppingaces.net/2007/11/17/the-unserious-candidate/#comment-8521 Kevin Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:45:23 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/17/the-unserious-candidate/#comment-8521 Mike, >But he won't say that will he? Ron Paul has repeatedly stated that he has no intention to run as a libertarian, this is actually a very common question: <a href="http://deseretnews.com/article/content/mobile/0,5223,695210444,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://deseretnews.com/article/content/mobile/0,5223,695210444,00.html</a> "Ron Paul says he is no Ross Perot. The Republican presidential candidate, who is trailing in the polls but has a loyal following, told the Salt Lake County GOP Central Committee Saturday that if he does not get the Republican nod, he will not jump to a third party. "I have no intention of doing that," Paul said" Here is another article from the wall street Journal "Ron Paul: No Third-Party Bid for Me" <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2007/10/05/ron-paul-no-third-party-bid-for-me/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2007/10/05/ron-paul-no-third-party-bid-for-me/</a> "The thought does not cross my mind about a third party,” Paul told us today" There are of course also numerous videos of mass media interviews where he is asked this question. Ronald Regan had this to say about Ron Paul: <a href="http://www.militaryforpaul.com/reagan.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.militaryforpaul.com/reagan.html</a> "Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country." - Ronald Reagan Looking at some of the posts above supporting Ron Paul I can understand that people would want to dismiss him as a fraud or worse, but the man has been a registered republican all his life except for the six months he run as an independent. Has the second most republican voting record in congress (Second only to Tancredo in my opinion), takes no special interest money, has been married to the same woman for fifty years and is an all arround nice guy. Maybe there is a reason why some of us are falling for him...

Mike,
>But he won’t say that will he?
Ron Paul has repeatedly stated that he has no intention to run as a libertarian, this is actually a very common question:
http://deseretnews.com/article/content/mobile/0,5223,695210444,00.html

“Ron Paul says he is no Ross Perot.
The Republican presidential candidate, who is trailing in the polls but has a loyal following, told the Salt Lake County GOP Central Committee Saturday that if he does not get the Republican nod, he will not jump to a third party.

“I have no intention of doing that,” Paul said”

Here is another article from the wall street Journal
“Ron Paul: No Third-Party Bid for Me”
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2007/10/05/ron-paul-no-third-party-bid-for-me/
“The thought does not cross my mind about a third party,” Paul told us today”

There are of course also numerous videos of mass media interviews where he is asked this question.

Ronald Regan had this to say about Ron Paul:
http://www.militaryforpaul.com/reagan.html
“Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country.”
- Ronald Reagan

Looking at some of the posts above supporting Ron Paul I can understand that people would want to dismiss him as a fraud or worse, but the man has been a registered republican all his life except for the six months he run as an independent. Has the second most republican voting record in congress (Second only to Tancredo in my opinion), takes no special interest money, has been married to the same woman for fifty years and is an all arround nice guy.

Maybe there is a reason why some of us are falling for him…

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]]> By: Mike's America http://floppingaces.net/2007/11/17/the-unserious-candidate/#comment-8520 Mike's America Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:55:46 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/17/the-unserious-candidate/#comment-8520 Kevin: When you run for President as a Libertarian (1988) and when nearly every single one of your current policies is more in line with Libertarianism than anything the conservative movement has advanced over the last 25 years then YOU ARE A LIBERTARIAN. Now, if RP wants to dispel the idea that he is a FRAUD he can do it by saying he will NOT run as an Independent in 2008. But he won't say that will he? And let's be clear: The article you cite states that RP endorsed Reagan in 1976. It does NOT say, as Non Serviam suggests that Reagan endorsed RP. Did RP also endorse Reagan in 1980? 1984? You call it "miscommunication" Kevin, but it seems to me that RP's entire campaign is founded on either willful ignorance or deliberate deception. Again, if RP wants to run as a Republican, he's free to do so. But unless he forswears any independent candidacy he has NO RIGHT to be included in GOP debates. And I have changed my mind and now fully support tossing him out of future debates unless he will make that pledge.

Kevin: When you run for President as a Libertarian (1988) and when nearly every single one of your current policies is more in line with Libertarianism than anything the conservative movement has advanced over the last 25 years then YOU ARE A LIBERTARIAN.

Now, if RP wants to dispel the idea that he is a FRAUD he can do it by saying he will NOT run as an Independent in 2008.

But he won’t say that will he?

And let’s be clear: The article you cite states that RP endorsed Reagan in 1976. It does NOT say, as Non Serviam suggests that Reagan endorsed RP.

Did RP also endorse Reagan in 1980? 1984?

You call it “miscommunication” Kevin, but it seems to me that RP’s entire campaign is founded on either willful ignorance or deliberate deception.

Again, if RP wants to run as a Republican, he’s free to do so. But unless he forswears any independent candidacy he has NO RIGHT to be included in GOP debates. And I have changed my mind and now fully support tossing him out of future debates unless he will make that pledge.

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]]> By: bbartlog http://floppingaces.net/2007/11/17/the-unserious-candidate/#comment-8519 bbartlog Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:24:27 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/17/the-unserious-candidate/#comment-8519 Radley Balko had a good response to Charen, <a href="http://www.theagitator.com/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. I agree that Paul's comments on the Scooter Libby pardon were off base but for the rest I side with Balko.

Radley Balko had a good response to Charen, here. I agree that Paul’s comments on the Scooter Libby pardon were off base but for the rest I side with Balko.

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]]> By: capital L http://floppingaces.net/2007/11/17/the-unserious-candidate/#comment-8518 capital L Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:49:54 +0000 http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/11/17/the-unserious-candidate/#comment-8518 "trade with all nations and alliance with none, as per Washington's suggestion." It was a fine suggestion several hundred years ago. It would be a total abrogation of duty and responsibility to enact such a policy now. Fundamentally unserious suggestions such as this will not (I dearly hope) win you votes.

“trade with all nations and alliance with none, as per Washington’s suggestion.”

It was a fine suggestion several hundred years ago. It would be a total abrogation of duty and responsibility to enact such a policy now. Fundamentally unserious suggestions such as this will not (I dearly hope) win you votes.

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