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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; &#187; Intel Reports: Saddam Could Have Had Nukes By 2007</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; &#187; Intel Reports: Saddam Could Have Had Nukes By 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] News reported on a new book, The Terrorist Watch: Inside the Desperate Race to Stop the Next Attack (15) by Ronald Kessler. The book includes commentary from Saddam&#8217;s interrogator. His words prove [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ChrisG</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/10/26/why-iraq/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.floppingaces.net/2007/10/26/why-iraq/&lt;/a&gt;

Mark,

The above link is to the story.  The red-faced type on the right side of the screen links to catagories with more archives.

I wish the media would be objective from the start.  IF they had been, this &quot;insurgency&quot; may have fizzeled at the start.  People of the Middle East do not follow weak horses and the &quot;insurgents&quot; were always the weak ones, despite the Western Media supporting them.  However, this support, in the form of partisan mis-information, anti-coalition/US lies, and multiple reportings of the same bombings as new attacks made the &quot;insurgents&quot; look strong.

They were not push-overs, but I would put the Imperial Japanese Army of WWII way above these islamofascists in fighting skill and bravery.
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<p>Mark,</p>
<p>The above link is to the story.  The red-faced type on the right side of the screen links to catagories with more archives.</p>
<p>I wish the media would be objective from the start.  IF they had been, this &#8220;insurgency&#8221; may have fizzeled at the start.  People of the Middle East do not follow weak horses and the &#8220;insurgents&#8221; were always the weak ones, despite the Western Media supporting them.  However, this support, in the form of partisan mis-information, anti-coalition/US lies, and multiple reportings of the same bombings as new attacks made the &#8220;insurgents&#8221; look strong.</p>
<p>They were not push-overs, but I would put the Imperial Japanese Army of WWII way above these islamofascists in fighting skill and bravery.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark E.</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/11/12/saddam-was-no-threat-right/#comment-8354</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,
Do you have a link for the &quot;Why Iraq&quot; post you are talking about.

I hear quite a bit of this stuff from people that were in the field that never makes the big press outlets like this sort of thing.

UBL personally sending Zarqawi in 2002, Zawahiri meetings with Saddam&#039;s VP, Saddam documents that talk about Zawihiri and terror camps for al Qaeda.  I&#039;d love to post all this stuff at www.regimeofterror.com but need more to go on...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Chris,<br />
Do you have a link for the &#8220;Why Iraq&#8221; post you are talking about.</p>
<p>I hear quite a bit of this stuff from people that were in the field that never makes the big press outlets like this sort of thing.</p>
<p>UBL personally sending Zarqawi in 2002, Zawahiri meetings with Saddam&#8217;s VP, Saddam documents that talk about Zawihiri and terror camps for al Qaeda.  I&#8217;d love to post all this stuff at <a href="http://www.regimeofterror.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.regimeofterror.com</a> but need more to go on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some have gone on record.  They went on record to our G2s and as our translators, would tell us what was happening on their way to work.

Remember though, &quot;going on record&quot; in the Middle East is like going on the stand against the Mob without Witness Protection...  After generations of that culture, it is understandably difficult to get them to go on the record.

That said, my Kurdish translator is now in America.  Her family, even though it was well connected, is still Kurdish and was persecuted for decades under Saddam.  She came in every day and pointed out AQI and Taliban activities in Baghdad on our city map.

The &quot;Why Iraq&quot; post I did some time before also had several links to BBC and other sources on Saddam/AQ ties, including the Jordanian plot of 2004.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Some have gone on record.  They went on record to our G2s and as our translators, would tell us what was happening on their way to work.</p>
<p>Remember though, &#8220;going on record&#8221; in the Middle East is like going on the stand against the Mob without Witness Protection&#8230;  After generations of that culture, it is understandably difficult to get them to go on the record.</p>
<p>That said, my Kurdish translator is now in America.  Her family, even though it was well connected, is still Kurdish and was persecuted for decades under Saddam.  She came in every day and pointed out AQI and Taliban activities in Baghdad on our city map.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Why Iraq&#8221; post I did some time before also had several links to BBC and other sources on Saddam/AQ ties, including the Jordanian plot of 2004.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,
Very interesting story.  Thanks for you service.

Do you think any of these Iraqis would be willing to go on record or talk about how they know or heard these things?  Thanks for posting.

Mark
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Chris,<br />
Very interesting story.  Thanks for you service.</p>
<p>Do you think any of these Iraqis would be willing to go on record or talk about how they know or heard these things?  Thanks for posting.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;twarded&quot;... Sorry... &quot;thwarted&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&#8220;twarded&#8221;&#8230; Sorry&#8230; &#8220;thwarted&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisG</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I can add to Mark and Scott is that I was in Iraq in 2007.  The Iraqis (members of all three major sects) told me Saddam not only HAD ties with AQ, but had helped the Taliban members fleeing their destruction in Afghanistan in 2002.  He settled these Taliban thugs southwest of what is now the Green Zone.

And on the &quot;Why Iraq&quot; Thread, I also pointed to statements from the twarded VX/Sarin attack on Amman, Jordan in 2004 by AQ members.  Their statements to the Jordainians explicitly stated Saddam gave AQ/Taliban thugs medical care and his cronies gave them access to thw WMDs moved to Syria (Becca Valley).  This is how they came up with the tons of VX and Sarin (GB) agents.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>All I can add to Mark and Scott is that I was in Iraq in 2007.  The Iraqis (members of all three major sects) told me Saddam not only HAD ties with AQ, but had helped the Taliban members fleeing their destruction in Afghanistan in 2002.  He settled these Taliban thugs southwest of what is now the Green Zone.</p>
<p>And on the &#8220;Why Iraq&#8221; Thread, I also pointed to statements from the twarded VX/Sarin attack on Amman, Jordan in 2004 by AQ members.  Their statements to the Jordainians explicitly stated Saddam gave AQ/Taliban thugs medical care and his cronies gave them access to thw WMDs moved to Syria (Becca Valley).  This is how they came up with the tons of VX and Sarin (GB) agents.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kuni,
&quot;All&quot; this intelligence by no means came from one office or one source.  You are joking about that comment, right?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Kuni,<br />
&#8220;All&#8221; this intelligence by no means came from one office or one source.  You are joking about that comment, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kuni,
Can you please explain to me why you no more about the links between Saddam&#039;s government and al Qaeda than members of al Qaeda and Saddam&#039;s Baath party do themselves?  I&#039;ve spent years reading accounts of them admitting cooperation (in foreign press and jihadist/Baathist friendly press) and them actually being caught cooperating since months BEFORE the invasion as documented at www.regimeofterror.com.

I understand the notion to not want them to have cooperated or to be against the war and thus the need to trash any reason that may support the war but why not just listen to what the people involved have had to say?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Kuni,<br />
Can you please explain to me why you no more about the links between Saddam&#8217;s government and al Qaeda than members of al Qaeda and Saddam&#8217;s Baath party do themselves?  I&#8217;ve spent years reading accounts of them admitting cooperation (in foreign press and jihadist/Baathist friendly press) and them actually being caught cooperating since months BEFORE the invasion as documented at <a href="http://www.regimeofterror.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.regimeofterror.com</a>.</p>
<p>I understand the notion to not want them to have cooperated or to be against the war and thus the need to trash any reason that may support the war but why not just listen to what the people involved have had to say?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Malensek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Malensek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the confusion re this sentence:
&quot;First, the OSP wasnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t formed in Sept 02, and 48hrs later any ambiguity, claims, half truths, untruths, whatever one would like to imagine were cleared up in the one report you failed to cite later in your post: Ã¢â‚¬Å“Iraqi Support for Terrorism 2002Ã¢â‚¬Â.&quot;

I meant to say that the OSP gave its last briefing on 9/16/02, but the CIA cleared up any potential false or misleading statements 48hrs later on 9/18/02 with it&#039;s &quot;Iraq Support for Terrorism&quot; pamphlet.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Sorry for the confusion re this sentence:<br />
&#8220;First, the OSP wasnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t formed in Sept 02, and 48hrs later any ambiguity, claims, half truths, untruths, whatever one would like to imagine were cleared up in the one report you failed to cite later in your post: Ã¢â‚¬Å“Iraqi Support for Terrorism 2002Ã¢â‚¬Â.&#8221;</p>
<p>I meant to say that the OSP gave its last briefing on 9/16/02, but the CIA cleared up any potential false or misleading statements 48hrs later on 9/18/02 with it&#8217;s &#8220;Iraq Support for Terrorism&#8221; pamphlet.</p>
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