American hegemony?

Oh PLEASE!

Even when we had nearly the entire world in our military control at the end of World War II we couldn’t wait to rid ourselves of the responsibility fast enough.

Still, we learned very quickly after the end of WW2 that we couldn’t just retreat to fortress America and expect the world to leave us alone. Sane minds prevailed and we did our best to build a network of alliances around the globe to counter threats to our freedom, security and prosperity.

You would apparently toss all that away.

Yes indeed, get your tin foil hat!

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Ah, what’s the alternative, American hegemony? I don’t wanna join the NWO yet. Just hand me my tin foil hat, please.

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winter: You’re being a nit picking ninny!

Thanks though for clarifying your own position. You isolationists are living in a fool’s paradise.

Nature abhors a vacuum and should you ever succeed in withdrawing U.S. leadership from the world that vacuum will be filled by others less disposed to tolerate your eccentricities.

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“NO VALID COMPARISON?”
Thank you, that was exactly my point. If you want to talk about GITMO prisoners being treated in accordance with international law in a way that furthers US security, that makes sense. Talking about the horrors that exist in Cuba interests me too. The comparison makes no sense to me. And what would a lefty protesting our own Gov’t policies have to do with protesting Cuba’s policies? I’m an isolationist myself, so in the interest of staying out of other countries’ internal matters, I don’t like that comparison either. As for what I’ve done? Outside of not having had a good cigar in some time, I advocate keeping American politics focused on domestic issues.

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OK nitpicker… amend my previous comment.

How about “NO VALID COMPARISON?”

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Who was arguing moral equivalence?
And how can you say there’s ‘NO comparison’ when your whole post is devoted to comparing (and contrasting) the two?
And if we need no excuse, what exactly was the point of your juxtaposition here?

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ALL these moral equivalence arguments are FALSE and PERVERSE.

There simply is NO comparison between U.S. treatment of detainees captured on battlefields in the act of trying to kill Americans or civilians and Cuban prisoners of conscience.

The effort here is not to excuse U.S. treatment, because we need NO excuse.

I’m wondering why that isn’t so perfectly obvious to some of you.

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enable the evil in Cuba by this false moralizing about Gitmo

The evil in Cuba would continue regardless of the moralizing of the left here. It would make as much sense (which is to say no sense at all) for a lefty to say our operation of Gitmo enables the Cuban government’s oppression by allowing them to spout off about moral equivalence. Both cases conveniently ignore the part where the Cuban communists have been murdering and oppressing people for fifty years, without any particular attention to what people here say or do.

But I’ll agree with winter that the ‘look how cruel they are compared to us!’ argument is thin. Yup, they’ve got us beat for barbarity! And the North Koreans are even worse! This isn’t a good way to calibrate your moral compass.

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Some of the Prisoners dont even want to leave Club Gitmo.

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winter: I’m glad Castro’s gulag and the REAL human rights horror that happens there is not news to you.

So what have you done about it?

There are a lot of other photos of Gitmo showing rows of barbed wire. It’s to keep the detainees in, but it might also serve to keep the Cubans out.

Ever notice how many Cubans risk their lives attempting to escape to the United States?

And yet lefties continue to enable the evil in Cuba by this false moralizing about Gitmo.

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