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	<title>Comments on: Fred on Meet The Press</title>
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		<title>By: Igor R.</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/11/04/fred-on-meet-the-press/comment-page-1/#comment-8099</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, oh well the odds were are little bit more in his favor a couple of months ago on intrade.  Has there really been any new information since then?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>John, oh well the odds were are little bit more in his favor a couple of months ago on intrade.  Has there really been any new information since then?</p>
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		<title>By: John  Ryan</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/11/04/fred-on-meet-the-press/comment-page-1/#comment-8098</link>
		<dc:creator>John  Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The odds on Freddie Thompson winning the election are running about 33 to 1.
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People may SAY that they think he&#039;s going to win but few will put any of their money on it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>The odds on Freddie Thompson winning the election are running about 33 to 1.<br />
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<p>People may SAY that they think he&#8217;s going to win but few will put any of their money on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael in MI</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/11/04/fred-on-meet-the-press/comment-page-1/#comment-8097</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael in MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I have asked this question in numerous places and have yet to get a response.

The 2004 Republican platform was Pro-Life.  If Rudy Giuliani gets the nomination, would the 2008 Platform then be Pro-Choice, since he is Pro-Choice?  Or would the GOP have a nominee whose positions are in opposition to the Party platform?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Also, I have asked this question in numerous places and have yet to get a response.</p>
<p>The 2004 Republican platform was Pro-Life.  If Rudy Giuliani gets the nomination, would the 2008 Platform then be Pro-Choice, since he is Pro-Choice?  Or would the GOP have a nominee whose positions are in opposition to the Party platform?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael in MI</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/11/04/fred-on-meet-the-press/comment-page-1/#comment-8096</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael in MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 04:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&quot;Imagine legalizing partial birth abortions and repealing of the Hyde amendment opening the flood gates to federal funding of abortions.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

Well, apparently this isn&#039;t that big of a deal, right?  Abortion is a non-issue, so I am told, and I need to get over it.

My attitude comes from being told that everything in which I believe is meaningless and I have to get over my values and principles and get with the program and simply vote to keep Hillary out of office.  That is not inspiring.  In fact, it is depressing.  And aggravating.

So if you want to know where my sour attitude comes from, there you go.

How would you feel to be told every day that your values and principles mean nothing?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><b>&#8220;Imagine legalizing partial birth abortions and repealing of the Hyde amendment opening the flood gates to federal funding of abortions.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>Well, apparently this isn&#8217;t that big of a deal, right?  Abortion is a non-issue, so I am told, and I need to get over it.</p>
<p>My attitude comes from being told that everything in which I believe is meaningless and I have to get over my values and principles and get with the program and simply vote to keep Hillary out of office.  That is not inspiring.  In fact, it is depressing.  And aggravating.</p>
<p>So if you want to know where my sour attitude comes from, there you go.</p>
<p>How would you feel to be told every day that your values and principles mean nothing?</p>
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		<title>By: Igor R.</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/11/04/fred-on-meet-the-press/comment-page-1/#comment-8095</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred towers above the competition.  He had said he doesn&#039;t do frantic, and he didn&#039;t this time either.  He clearly understand the trade offs in the Middle East.  How many of his &quot;competitors&quot; would even go into the lack of human intelligence there?  He clearly sees the substance and the image aspect of the &quot;big war&quot;, and how the Iraq and Iran conflicts relate to it.  I don&#039;t understand why it&#039;s not clear to anyone who is interested in any issues than total and immediate Federal abortion ban that this man has the breadth, depth, and temperament to be the next President of the United States.

Unite behind the only man that can unify the Republican party and beat Hillary or another Soros puppet at their own game.  I don&#039;t want the distraction of being ambiguous on illegal immigration, inconsistent positions on abortion or various gay unions, non-mainstream religious beliefs (and I&#039;m an atheist) to de-focus our attention from the main goal: to prevent the Socialist from taking over the economy and destroying the defense capabilities of the United States along with it.  Vote for Fred!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Fred towers above the competition.  He had said he doesn&#8217;t do frantic, and he didn&#8217;t this time either.  He clearly understand the trade offs in the Middle East.  How many of his &#8220;competitors&#8221; would even go into the lack of human intelligence there?  He clearly sees the substance and the image aspect of the &#8220;big war&#8221;, and how the Iraq and Iran conflicts relate to it.  I don&#8217;t understand why it&#8217;s not clear to anyone who is interested in any issues than total and immediate Federal abortion ban that this man has the breadth, depth, and temperament to be the next President of the United States.</p>
<p>Unite behind the only man that can unify the Republican party and beat Hillary or another Soros puppet at their own game.  I don&#8217;t want the distraction of being ambiguous on illegal immigration, inconsistent positions on abortion or various gay unions, non-mainstream religious beliefs (and I&#8217;m an atheist) to de-focus our attention from the main goal: to prevent the Socialist from taking over the economy and destroying the defense capabilities of the United States along with it.  Vote for Fred!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike's America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike's America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 01:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael in MI: I&#039;m very disappointed with your attitude. If you don&#039;t think the 2006 election debacle was earth shattering, imagine a Democrat majority in both houses of Congress and a Democrat in the White House.

If you are so passionate about the abortion issue to the exclusion of all else imagine the kind of judges that Hillary would select and Democrats confirm.

Imagine legalizing partial birth abortions and repealing of the Hyde amendment opening the flood gates to federal funding of abortions.

I&#039;m sorry, but unless you can take the pledge to support the eventual nominee, don&#039;t ask me to consider your prefered candidate or expect me to give you my fullest consideration and respect for your viewpoint.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Michael in MI: I&#8217;m very disappointed with your attitude. If you don&#8217;t think the 2006 election debacle was earth shattering, imagine a Democrat majority in both houses of Congress and a Democrat in the White House.</p>
<p>If you are so passionate about the abortion issue to the exclusion of all else imagine the kind of judges that Hillary would select and Democrats confirm.</p>
<p>Imagine legalizing partial birth abortions and repealing of the Hyde amendment opening the flood gates to federal funding of abortions.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but unless you can take the pledge to support the eventual nominee, don&#8217;t ask me to consider your prefered candidate or expect me to give you my fullest consideration and respect for your viewpoint.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael in MI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael in MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&quot;You obviously are going to sit this one out because your a single issue voter. Quite sad but its your prerogative.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

So apparently the sanctity of life is a single issue that is unimportant.  I see.

Reagan did not end abortion, but he inspired a nation to start discussing the sanctity of life.  He inspired the Pro-Life movement.  And then of course, Bush 41 and Clinton turned the country in the complete opposite direction.

It&#039;s interesting to see people say that Clinton&#039;s antics in office helped this country decline into moral decadence, but then say that Reagan&#039;s efforts to do the opposite mean nothing.

If a President can&#039;t do much about abortion, then there&#039;s nothing to fear from Hillary either on the issue.

Until recently, when the Rudy supporters started getting belligerent and telling me that I better vote for Rudy and stop whining about abortion because it means nothing otherwise we will get Hillary... I was going to support the GOP nominee.  But now, I am getting completely turned off to politics, because I see it is not about values, it is not about principles, it is not about jack-squat.  It&#039;s about bullying people into voting for your candidate, or else.  And if we don&#039;t vote for the candidate of their choice, and throw our principles and values to the wind, then we are idiots and foolish and ushering in the evil Hillary who is going to destroy this country.

Just once I would like to hear someone tell me that I should vote according to my principles and values and for whom I believe represents those principles and values.  Instead, I get bullying and accusations that I am a single-issue voter and that single-issue, the sanctity of life, means nothing.

Well, I&#039;ll tell you what, if that is the case, then my vote must mean nothing to.  So, yes, I&#039;ll probably sit out if I don&#039;t see a leader with integrity and principles in the upcoming election.

And anyone who considers the sanctity of life a non-issue, they don&#039;t deserve my vote.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><b>&#8220;You obviously are going to sit this one out because your a single issue voter. Quite sad but its your prerogative.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>So apparently the sanctity of life is a single issue that is unimportant.  I see.</p>
<p>Reagan did not end abortion, but he inspired a nation to start discussing the sanctity of life.  He inspired the Pro-Life movement.  And then of course, Bush 41 and Clinton turned the country in the complete opposite direction.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting to see people say that Clinton&#8217;s antics in office helped this country decline into moral decadence, but then say that Reagan&#8217;s efforts to do the opposite mean nothing.</p>
<p>If a President can&#8217;t do much about abortion, then there&#8217;s nothing to fear from Hillary either on the issue.</p>
<p>Until recently, when the Rudy supporters started getting belligerent and telling me that I better vote for Rudy and stop whining about abortion because it means nothing otherwise we will get Hillary&#8230; I was going to support the GOP nominee.  But now, I am getting completely turned off to politics, because I see it is not about values, it is not about principles, it is not about jack-squat.  It&#8217;s about bullying people into voting for your candidate, or else.  And if we don&#8217;t vote for the candidate of their choice, and throw our principles and values to the wind, then we are idiots and foolish and ushering in the evil Hillary who is going to destroy this country.</p>
<p>Just once I would like to hear someone tell me that I should vote according to my principles and values and for whom I believe represents those principles and values.  Instead, I get bullying and accusations that I am a single-issue voter and that single-issue, the sanctity of life, means nothing.</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;ll tell you what, if that is the case, then my vote must mean nothing to.  So, yes, I&#8217;ll probably sit out if I don&#8217;t see a leader with integrity and principles in the upcoming election.</p>
<p>And anyone who considers the sanctity of life a non-issue, they don&#8217;t deserve my vote.</p>
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		<title>By: MariesTwoCents</title>
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		<dc:creator>MariesTwoCents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred said everything I firmly believe, I dont agree with the Gay Marriage thing but I am for States having more Control over things than Uncle Sam.

I like his stance on the war.

I just Love Fred and I sure hope he imurges as the frontrunner.

He isnt scripted and is a very honest man.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Fred said everything I firmly believe, I dont agree with the Gay Marriage thing but I am for States having more Control over things than Uncle Sam.</p>
<p>I like his stance on the war.</p>
<p>I just Love Fred and I sure hope he imurges as the frontrunner.</p>
<p>He isnt scripted and is a very honest man.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Please, let&#039;s pick someone we can be proud of on the world stage&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I could care less who the rest of the world thinks is the right person for the job, or how proud we can be of our President on the world stage.  The fact that this matters to you is quite telling.

I care about the President being able to lead this country and protect it.  I&#039;m not sure which interview you saw because it certainly wasn&#039;t this one.    Fred gave substantive answers to every question.  I understand your pulling for your guy (obviously Romney) but be a little honest in your assessment instead of trying to take him down a few notches with insults that your just pulling out of your hat.

Mike, tell me, did Reagan fix that abortion thing then?

The only real effect a President has on these kind of issues is putting forth judges to SCOTUS.  His choices for the bench, Kennedy and O&#039;Conner both banded together with the liberals to ensure Roe was NOT overturned in 1992.  So while Reagan was an outstanding President he had no effect AT ALL on the abortion issue.

My main focus on choosing a President is who would lead and protect this country.  Who would do the right thing even if the polls showed it wasn&#039;t the popular thing.

So far Rudy, Fred, &amp; Mitt come across as the most able to do those things.

You obviously are going to sit this one out because your a single issue voter.  Quite sad but its your prerogative.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><blockquote><p>Please, let&#8217;s pick someone we can be proud of on the world stage</p></blockquote>
<p>I could care less who the rest of the world thinks is the right person for the job, or how proud we can be of our President on the world stage.  The fact that this matters to you is quite telling.</p>
<p>I care about the President being able to lead this country and protect it.  I&#8217;m not sure which interview you saw because it certainly wasn&#8217;t this one.    Fred gave substantive answers to every question.  I understand your pulling for your guy (obviously Romney) but be a little honest in your assessment instead of trying to take him down a few notches with insults that your just pulling out of your hat.</p>
<p>Mike, tell me, did Reagan fix that abortion thing then?</p>
<p>The only real effect a President has on these kind of issues is putting forth judges to SCOTUS.  His choices for the bench, Kennedy and O&#8217;Conner both banded together with the liberals to ensure Roe was NOT overturned in 1992.  So while Reagan was an outstanding President he had no effect AT ALL on the abortion issue.</p>
<p>My main focus on choosing a President is who would lead and protect this country.  Who would do the right thing even if the polls showed it wasn&#8217;t the popular thing.</p>
<p>So far Rudy, Fred, &#038; Mitt come across as the most able to do those things.</p>
<p>You obviously are going to sit this one out because your a single issue voter.  Quite sad but its your prerogative.</p>
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		<title>By: ME</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/11/04/fred-on-meet-the-press/comment-page-1/#comment-8090</link>
		<dc:creator>ME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I can definitely see this man as President.&quot;

And I can&#039;t see for the life of me how you came to that conclusion.  And it scares me that you and many others find this man acceptable as the potential leader of the free world.

In my opinion, Fred was a total flop.  He talked a lot without saying anything.  A policy wonk this man is not.  I can understand the appeal of his down-home daddy-talk, but that doesn&#039;t mean he has meaningful or substantive opinions (because I didn&#039;t see any from him).

I was actually amazed to see the difference between Thompson on MTP vs. Blitzer&#039;s interview of Bhutto on CNN.  Bhutto is clearly very educated, has clear opinions based on a life of serious study that she doesn&#039;t shy away from, and is very good at explaining the relevant facts and logic behind what she says.  It was quite the contrast for me to see them interviewed one after the other, and it made Fred look simplistic and not-really-qualified-to-be-a-world-leader.

When the (or, rather a probable future) leader of pakistan makes the potential leader of the free world look like an unsophisticated country hack, we;ve got a problem.

Please, let&#039;s pick someone we can be proud of on the world stage... like Romney.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>&#8220;I can definitely see this man as President.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I can&#8217;t see for the life of me how you came to that conclusion.  And it scares me that you and many others find this man acceptable as the potential leader of the free world.</p>
<p>In my opinion, Fred was a total flop.  He talked a lot without saying anything.  A policy wonk this man is not.  I can understand the appeal of his down-home daddy-talk, but that doesn&#8217;t mean he has meaningful or substantive opinions (because I didn&#8217;t see any from him).</p>
<p>I was actually amazed to see the difference between Thompson on MTP vs. Blitzer&#8217;s interview of Bhutto on CNN.  Bhutto is clearly very educated, has clear opinions based on a life of serious study that she doesn&#8217;t shy away from, and is very good at explaining the relevant facts and logic behind what she says.  It was quite the contrast for me to see them interviewed one after the other, and it made Fred look simplistic and not-really-qualified-to-be-a-world-leader.</p>
<p>When the (or, rather a probable future) leader of pakistan makes the potential leader of the free world look like an unsophisticated country hack, we;ve got a problem.</p>
<p>Please, let&#8217;s pick someone we can be proud of on the world stage&#8230; like Romney.</p>
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