So true Chris. It’s purely argumentative-similar to saying if you want law enforcement, or if you believe in the FBI, you have to force you children to go be cops or agents. The difference of course being one of scale where (while FBI agents for example are good people, highly trained, intelligent, and require years of training), serving in the military means is the most sacrifice possible imo.

What concerns me is the desperation of the arguments against the war today. People are still ranting away about the decision to invade 4 years ago, or the rhetoric from 4 years ago. Those debates are almost completely moot today. Or people will run on and on about Republicans wanting to keep the war in Iraq going on indefinitely despite the promise of leading Democratic Presidential nominees to do just that. Or they’ll actually march in the streets, hold press conferences, and so forth demanding that the US start withdrawing forces, meanwhile the order and plan to substantially reduce forces by withdrawal was started months ago.

So why do these people rant away? Why debate the moot? Why point partisan fingers in the face of bi-partisan determination to finish the war to success? Why demand withdrawal when it’s begun?

Is it because the msm isn’t reporting those things? That’s probably a big part of it-at least the first place to look.

Is it because they still don’t understand any of it and continue to believe the misinformation stemming from political leaders who they now KNOW will do and say anything to get elected (see also New Direction in Iraq, Most Ethical Congress ever, New Spirit of bi-partisanship)?

Or (my fear) do many people hear the news, not accept the disinformation anymore, and still rant and rave against the decision to invade etc because of habit; a habit that satisfies their feelings of political alienation by talking tough to power in the aire of talking truth to power?

Oh well, let them rave. Let them whine about the war with this talking point and that, and then let them try to so clearly form excuses to vote for Senator Clinton: who promoted the war, authorized the war, supported the war, funded the war, and will-in her words-keep combat missions going until 2013. Even partisan hacks are rethinking that one now since they’ve come to realize that when the Democratic Party’s leaders talk…it’s just to get them elected; ie, they aren’t really looking out for the little guy anymore-just saying anything to get a vote from demographics.

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Curt,

This is predictable.

Next will be the “you are only in the military because you are too dumb to do anything else ignoring that all officer O-3 and above and most O-1s and above have degrees (OCS grads get a few years to complete theirs) and most enlisted have degrees of some sort also.

Then (180 degree flip) will be the “we are wasting the prime of our society in a war we are *losing (per propaganda spouted by Hollywierd, Micheal Moore, and the Democrats).

Then (180 degree flop) it will be “you are just a bunch of baby-killers who deserve to die”. Though, honestly, I have never performed an abortion in all my life.

After losing that “argument”, the leftist’s prattle will begin to deteriorate like Saddam’s corpse into bigoted attacks and socialist party talking points (redundant, no?).

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Man, you lefties are a pathetic bunch. First you make the chickenhawk argument and demand we go to Iraq before we report on anything dealing on Iraq (unless of course we post something anti-Bush which Im sure you would have no problem with) then when told that one of our authors HAS been to Iraq, and is currently still in the military you change the argument to forcing the Bush daughters to Iraq.

P A T H E T I C

Stop playing with the adults and go back to the KOS playground will ya? We wouldn’t want you to get a headache doing some REAL thinking would we….

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Pensive,
“if we instituted the draft this war would be over in a few months.”

The withdrawal order was given back in September. In June, more will be ordered. Do the math. US forces have deployed to the region 7 times in preparation for invasion (even though the US only invaded Iraq twice), and each time took 6-9 months. It would take months to organize a draft, make one happen, train, and then deploy the forces all at a time when President Bush is withdrawing forces, and with your intent for a draft being to force a withdrawal that’s already begun…it seems like just angst on your part.

…or, didn’t you know that the withdrawal order was given already? If so, that’s understandable. Dems need the opposition to the war to energize their base, so they don’t like to acknowledge that there’s success or that the order’s been given with more expected to follow, and they SURE don’t want their base to remember that

1) the Democratic Party is continuing the war, funding it, and has never made a serious effort at stopping it

2) the Democratic Party’s Presidential candidate (Hillary) will continue the war indefinitely.

If opponents of the war recognized those two things, they’d be hard pressed to vote for Hillary or other Democrats to continue the war while protesting against it.

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So, ChrisG, let’s force others to go to IRAQ too. Like the Bush daughters or Rush Blowhard. If the fat cats on the right had to go to Iraq or send their kids, this thing would be over in two minutes.

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But then, I guess you cannot read very well as I kind of laid that out in a post above.

Lenin was right, the left is full of “useful idiots”…. Useless Idiots is more apt.

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Pensivepuppy,

I am an Army officer with (this month) 14 years of service and just returned from Iraq a few months ago.

Your next worthless, asinine “point” is???

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How many of you brave BSer’s on this board are volunteering to go to IRAQ? Put your money where your mouth is. Charlie Rangel is right – if we instituted the draft this war would be over in a few months. Not even Bush’s own children volunteer to go there.

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Duncan Hunter: Wounded Warriors still seeking to serve:

“…let’s go over to Bethesda and Walter Reed and as we get these new — …these soldiers and Marines who are embarking on new careers, let’s recruit them for the State Department and let’s FIRE THESE GUYS THAT REFUSE TO GO and we’ll give the State Department careers to these military guys”.

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Video: Victory parade in Ramadi
http://hotair.com/archives/2007/11/02/video-victory-parade-in-ramadi/

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