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		<title>By: Scott Malensek</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/11/01/more-time-spent-wasted-by-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-7992</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Malensek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless Ron Suskind can quote the briefer or cite a non anonymous source, it&#039;s just a claim, but it&#039;s also moot.  15 of the 19 hijackers were flagged and/or stopped by security.  The problem was that the security was looking for bombs not suicidal hijackers.  I also LOVE the part where failed counter-terrorism czar Clarke whines about how there was no cabinet meetings re intel warning.  Brilliant.  All the guy&#039;s doing is complaining that he should have still been a powerful cabinet level guy when the fact is that alerting the Secretary of Labor, the Secretary of Education, notifying the Department of the Interior etc (ie the full cabinet) would&#039;ve been useless.  The only people that needed to be involved were the intel agencies, and since the CENTRAL intelligence agency provided the brief, the intel was intrinsically disseminated.  When W asked the FBI and CIA what was being done, he was told there were 70 investigations under way.  Ok.  That&#039;s more than an previously (far more than any the Clinton Admin ever conducted).   Basically, W did what he was supposed to do.  It was the system that failed.  The problem with people aiming to point fingers and blame at W rather than the systemic flaws that the 911 Commission AND the joint Congressional inquiry found as well is that by pointing fingers at W, it suggests that a different butt in the chair behind the desk at 1600 PA would&#039;ve prevented the attacks, and since a different butt HAD been in that chair, it&#039;s apparent that such politically partisan spin is both useless, and contrary to fact.

Nice try  lutton, but you&#039;re Bushbash attempt fawns in the face of history.  Maybe if the 911 Commission and other investigations had found the President negligent, you&#039;d have a grain of sand to stand upon, but instead the various investigations (bi-partisan, independent, etc) found that Presidents Clinton and Bush both failed, and that even had their failures not occurred it&#039;s likely the attacks would have still succeeded.

Nah, if you want a real bad guy, a real failure, a real culprit...blame the murderers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Unless Ron Suskind can quote the briefer or cite a non anonymous source, it&#8217;s just a claim, but it&#8217;s also moot.  15 of the 19 hijackers were flagged and/or stopped by security.  The problem was that the security was looking for bombs not suicidal hijackers.  I also LOVE the part where failed counter-terrorism czar Clarke whines about how there was no cabinet meetings re intel warning.  Brilliant.  All the guy&#8217;s doing is complaining that he should have still been a powerful cabinet level guy when the fact is that alerting the Secretary of Labor, the Secretary of Education, notifying the Department of the Interior etc (ie the full cabinet) would&#8217;ve been useless.  The only people that needed to be involved were the intel agencies, and since the CENTRAL intelligence agency provided the brief, the intel was intrinsically disseminated.  When W asked the FBI and CIA what was being done, he was told there were 70 investigations under way.  Ok.  That&#8217;s more than an previously (far more than any the Clinton Admin ever conducted).   Basically, W did what he was supposed to do.  It was the system that failed.  The problem with people aiming to point fingers and blame at W rather than the systemic flaws that the 911 Commission AND the joint Congressional inquiry found as well is that by pointing fingers at W, it suggests that a different butt in the chair behind the desk at 1600 PA would&#8217;ve prevented the attacks, and since a different butt HAD been in that chair, it&#8217;s apparent that such politically partisan spin is both useless, and contrary to fact.</p>
<p>Nice try  lutton, but you&#8217;re Bushbash attempt fawns in the face of history.  Maybe if the 911 Commission and other investigations had found the President negligent, you&#8217;d have a grain of sand to stand upon, but instead the various investigations (bi-partisan, independent, etc) found that Presidents Clinton and Bush both failed, and that even had their failures not occurred it&#8217;s likely the attacks would have still succeeded.</p>
<p>Nah, if you want a real bad guy, a real failure, a real culprit&#8230;blame the murderers.</p>
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		<title>By: lutton</title>
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		<dc:creator>lutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you mean responding like this:

August 6, 2001: Bush Tells CIA Regarding Bin Laden Warning, Ã¢â‚¬ËœYouÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve Covered Your Ass, NowÃ¢â‚¬â„¢



Supposedly, just after a CIA briefer presents President Bush the later infamous PDB (Presidential Daily Briefing) entitled Ã¢â‚¬Å“Bin Laden Determined to Strike in USÃ¢â‚¬Â(see August 6, 2001), Bush tells the briefer, Ã¢â‚¬Å“YouÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve covered your ass, now.Ã¢â‚¬Â
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>you mean responding like this:</p>
<p>August 6, 2001: Bush Tells CIA Regarding Bin Laden Warning, Ã¢â‚¬ËœYouÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve Covered Your Ass, NowÃ¢â‚¬â„¢</p>
<p>Supposedly, just after a CIA briefer presents President Bush the later infamous PDB (Presidential Daily Briefing) entitled Ã¢â‚¬Å“Bin Laden Determined to Strike in USÃ¢â‚¬Â(see August 6, 2001), Bush tells the briefer, Ã¢â‚¬Å“YouÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve covered your ass, now.Ã¢â‚¬Â</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Malensek</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/11/01/more-time-spent-wasted-by-demo/comment-page-1/#comment-7990</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Malensek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I snarfed coffee at this one:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hmzyiVIIB2w-pCeJrPL8qU3y5DKgD8SL4T2G1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hmzyiVIIB2w-pCeJrPL8qU3y5DKgD8SL4T2G1&lt;/a&gt;

Even Pelosi Is Disappointed in Congress

By CHARLES BABINGTON Ã¢â‚¬&quot; 13 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) Ã¢â‚¬&quot; Add House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to the list of Americans who think Congress is doing a lousy job.

Hours after touting the Democratic-controlled Congress&#039; achievements at a ceremony on the Capitol steps Thursday, Pelosi confessed that she would give the legislative body low marks if a pollster asked her.

&quot;I know that Congress has low approval ratings,&quot; Pelosi, D-Calif., said at her weekly news conference. &quot;I don&#039;t approve of Congress, because we haven&#039;t done anything that Ã¢â‚¬&quot; we haven&#039;t been effective in ending the war in Iraq. And if you asked me in a phone call, as ardent a Democrat as I am, I would disapprove of Congress as well.&quot;

Not surprisingly, Pelosi said President Bush and his Republican allies are mostly to blame. She noted that Bush has vetoed Democratic-led efforts to wind down the war, expand a children&#039;s health program and broaden stem cell research.

In the October AP-Ipsos poll, Americans gave Congress a 22 percent approval rating, the lowest score since the poll began in late 2003.

Pelosi, who became speaker in January, found some rays of sunlight among the clouds. She cited a new Pew Research Center survey in which 44 percent of those polled said the Democratic Party can better manage the federal government, while 32 percent chose the Republican Party.

&quot;I&#039;m very proud of what we have done,&quot; Pelosi said. Her Capitol steps ceremony touted a higher minimum wage, lower student loan interest rates and a new law tightening lobbying and ethics regulations.

The key to boosting her party&#039;s image, she said, is &quot;to get through the fog of war, because there is no question that the war in Iraq has eclipsed much of what we have done.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I snarfed coffee at this one:<br />
<a href="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hmzyiVIIB2w-pCeJrPL8qU3y5DKgD8SL4T2G1" rel="nofollow">http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hmzyiVIIB2w-pCeJrPL8qU3y5DKgD8SL4T2G1</a></p>
<p>Even Pelosi Is Disappointed in Congress</p>
<p>By CHARLES BABINGTON Ã¢â‚¬&#8221; 13 hours ago</p>
<p>WASHINGTON (AP) Ã¢â‚¬&#8221; Add House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to the list of Americans who think Congress is doing a lousy job.</p>
<p>Hours after touting the Democratic-controlled Congress&#8217; achievements at a ceremony on the Capitol steps Thursday, Pelosi confessed that she would give the legislative body low marks if a pollster asked her.</p>
<p>&#8220;I know that Congress has low approval ratings,&#8221; Pelosi, D-Calif., said at her weekly news conference. &#8220;I don&#8217;t approve of Congress, because we haven&#8217;t done anything that Ã¢â‚¬&#8221; we haven&#8217;t been effective in ending the war in Iraq. And if you asked me in a phone call, as ardent a Democrat as I am, I would disapprove of Congress as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not surprisingly, Pelosi said President Bush and his Republican allies are mostly to blame. She noted that Bush has vetoed Democratic-led efforts to wind down the war, expand a children&#8217;s health program and broaden stem cell research.</p>
<p>In the October AP-Ipsos poll, Americans gave Congress a 22 percent approval rating, the lowest score since the poll began in late 2003.</p>
<p>Pelosi, who became speaker in January, found some rays of sunlight among the clouds. She cited a new Pew Research Center survey in which 44 percent of those polled said the Democratic Party can better manage the federal government, while 32 percent chose the Republican Party.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m very proud of what we have done,&#8221; Pelosi said. Her Capitol steps ceremony touted a higher minimum wage, lower student loan interest rates and a new law tightening lobbying and ethics regulations.</p>
<p>The key to boosting her party&#8217;s image, she said, is &#8220;to get through the fog of war, because there is no question that the war in Iraq has eclipsed much of what we have done.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Scrapiron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scrapiron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 03:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears the most rabid democrat now realizes the democrat leadership of congress is worthless, along with most of the democrats in congress. They&#039;re only concerned with their personal political power and the he** with the American people.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>It appears the most rabid democrat now realizes the democrat leadership of congress is worthless, along with most of the democrats in congress. They&#8217;re only concerned with their personal political power and the he** with the American people.</p>
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