You’re missing the point. Terrorist and their supporters ARE and SHOULD be tortured the good old way. By claiming they aren’t you’re taking the weak position that they wouldn’t deserve it and that we’re too weak to defend ourselves from their attacks. Maybe leftards are too naive to admit this but don’t play their game.

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well
im an independent
and i think that torture in some means is neccesary , but we should torture the bad guys not innocent men
Recently the supreme court ruled in favor of allowing GITMO inmates or captives should i say the right to trial
if proven guilty i say we do whatever it takes to get information that we have proven by knowledge of the court is there out of the captive
ive read all of your comments
and it seems to me
that you all worry to much about what the other thinks or believes than the actuall issue at hand
take that into consideration before you critize someone for their opion
=)

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Chris,

Yes actually I HAVE read the Geneva Convention and the US Law of Land Warfare. These thugs are NOT POWs and are Mercenaries at best, Spies at worse (under GC articles). I suggest you read up on it instead of accusing other of not reading it. I listed out the regulations in another post.

Here is the link to the post, Comment #12: http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/03/07/we-dont-speak-of-the-clintons-that-way/

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Well I have two comments. Let me first say I’m certainly against torture.

1st, your comment that captured agents could be executed under the rules of war, and somehow we’re doing them a favour by feeding them and clothing them, that’s typical American ignorance of the world outside them. Have you actually heard of the Geneva Convention? Or read up on any rules of war? PoWs are not elligible for execution.

2nd, sleep deprivation is one of the worst tortures, I would actually prefer water boarding. You would die quicker not sleeping than not eating.

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Strange. I’ve had a tough time finding pics of Arabs torturing captured Americans. Guess that kinda thing never happens. That must be because the enemy holds themselves to the higher standard.

Starting to sound like people have more sympathy for the enemy than the American soldiers.

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Drawing picture of pretend torture is not a good way to spend your time.

Meanwhile…thousands of REAL pictures exist showing americans torturing arabs.

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Waterboarding Is Not Torture

Waterboarding is waterboarding.
Torture looks this and this .
And it often ends up like this.

For a look at what torture is like, just look at the torture manual used by our enemy.
Waterboarding is a method of interrogation that appeals to the most b…

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Experienced intelligence agents tell us that treating captives with respect is more effective than torture. Cookies and milk? Nice try.

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AlexD,

Grow up. Are you scared of Alec Baldwin’s violent words and Bill Maher’s jokes? Are they violent men? I’m talking about violent actions (your examples aren’t even attempting to incite violence). You don’t hear me complaining about Ann Coulter wishing right wing militiamen blowing up the NY Times building, do you? No, because getting upset about such words is idiotic.

Since you can’t find any violent lefties from the last 30 years, why don’t you just relax and go back to re-reading the Turner Diaries.

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AlexD,
We are dealing with a projectionist and apologist who dismisses the clear and present true evil of global Islam and desires in his most fevered dreams to declare the USA evil and only the “enlightened” left can save us from “evil neocons”. He poo-poos what the left is really saying and doing, but loves to make up stuff against “neocons with no moral core”.

I have said this more than a few times. The solution to this issue is simple: Congress must do their job and define the regulations on what is and is not acceptable through the US Code, Military Commissions Act (the people we fight are given no rights under the Geneva Convention), UCMJ, the Law of Land Warfare, and CIA regulations. That is the only solution. However, it means THIS congress has to take responsibility for these actions.

Since it does not seem to get read, let me say it again. Congress must do their job and define the regulations on what is and is not acceptable through the US Code, Military Commissions Act (the people we fight are given no rights under the Geneva Convention), UCMJ, the Law of Land Warfare, and CIA regulations.

In my last response to this useful idiot, I would suggest he read up on The Terrorist Screening Center, The Patriot Act (actually READ it) and look up the FBI database on domestic terror groups (ELF and ALF are on it). I KNOW the Constitution. These rights are guaranteed and protected thoughout the intell gathering proccess. Where were these protections under Clinton? While we are at it, how about the left supporting the 9th and 10th Ammendments?

The way the intell gathering system the left calls “sping on Americans” used to work was we killed/captured a terrorist in some part of the world and if for some reason a US phone number, website, or IP address was on his cell phone or computer, that system was monitored. If you are on a terrorist’s rolodex, that should be due cause enough to see why.

http://www.dhs.gov/xnews/releases/press_release_0246.shtm

http://www.whitehouse.gov/ask/20060309.html (this has a link to the original full Patriot Act along with a Q&A section)

If you have not seen what your compatriots are saying and writing, see http://www.zombietime.com

Good bye.

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