Last fall…about A YEAR AGO…Democratic party leaders, and leaders of the politically farthest left, all told us that America wanted a New Direction in Iraq. Ok. Then the Democrats got elected into office, demanded the President send more troops to Iraq, and he did. The very day the order was leaked, those same politicians who had called for more troops to get sent to Iraq flip flopped, went back on their pre-election promise not to demand withdrawal from Iraq, and demanded withdrawal despite the fact that the President was changing direction in Iraq. Then polls showed something else…something that the left chooses to ignore. The polls showed that while Americans didn’t like the war in Iraq, they did NOT and have NEVER supported withdrawal. The New Direction that the American people had been told they’d get, the one they’d been promised, the one they expected, the one they hoped for, and the one they were never given by Democrats…was a new direction towards success.

Meanwhile, flushed with glee that they’d misled the American people into giving them control of both houses of Congress, Democratic party leaders and their controllers began to openly, freely, and eagerly parrot the enemy’s objectives and even their rhetoric-often verbatim. The problem is that even months before the President’s New Direction in Iraq was halfway started, it was already meeting with success. Now, after all the troops are in place it’s meeting with even greater success. Those Democratic party leaders and their controllers don’t see it because they’ve convinced themselves that the generals (honorable men as opposed to career lawyer politicians who advocate American defeat as a policy) are the liars.

What got me about the NYT article was other similar articles that popped up within days as well…articles that show support among the American people for the invasion of Iraq as well as for the war there now…is rising. Why? Could it be that the people who have been crying, “The sky is falling, the army is broken, we can’t continue for another 4 months, the enemy is getting stronger, it’s a civil war, Al Queda’s not even in Iraq, etc” those people-the political leaders, their controllers, and the media parrots have all been revealed as the worst liars, manipulators, and the most misleading element in the war?

Think about it

The politicians who promised a new direction for success, admitted they never even formed a committee to brainstorm ideas before being elected. Then they called for more troops, but when the President did what they demanded, they flip flopped. Then to form their promised new direction plan, they went to Syria and met with one of the biggest sponsors of the insurgency, and following those 12/06 to 2/07 meetings the politicians took up the enemy’s objective, the enemy’s rhetoric, and the enemy’s propaganda as their own by declaring the war a lost cause, and advocating defeat as a policy.

Those who control the politicians have completely gone off the deep end since the election last year. Check out the far left websites and it’s impossible to ignore that most people posting there, the party’s contributors in money and effort, have come to hate Republicans, the Bush Administration, and anyone who disagrees with their policies more than they hate the enemy. In most cases they don’t even recognize the enemy!

And the msm. Yep, after years of telling Americans and the world that all is lost, they’ve been proven so wrong for so long that more and more American people have come to realize that the NYT and other left-leaning media outlets just aren’t reliable. Thanks to the internet and direct, real time emailing from soldiers at the front as well other alternative information sources, people are now realizing that the war is not being reported on accurately at all by most traditional media sources. If there is a single constant in the entire Iraq War it’s that the hundreds of thousands of men and women who have been to Iraq all come home and tell their families that the war is not being reported on accurately.

Four years after hearing the war is hopeless, Americans now see that the voices carrying that message aren’t being truthful, and so…support for the war is rising. It’s not that people “like” the war. It’s that people realize it’s the only option. Doubt it? Well, sorry, but even Chris Matthews and others have now come to that same conclusion. The NYT article demonstrates this.
The polls of the American people’s lack of desire to withdraw show this.
Chris Matthews and his leftist panel agree too
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/07/29/shocking-chris-matthews-discussion-maybe-we-shouldn-t-leave-iraq

Democrats
Their controllers
and the msm

all have been proven liars, misleaders, and defeatist, and the American people are seeing through it now. As a result, the support for those Democratic party leaders has become as non-binding as their faux opposition to the war in Iraq. When the Democrats took Congress, their approval was over 50%. Now it’s clinging near 14%. That’s hardly binding support.

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“their reputations take a shot in the arm if we somehow succeed…”

…or if we fail. Basically these authors are right (& wrong) either way. And that’s what makes touting this as any kinda revelation or revolution in liberal thought so silly.
Yes, they are moderate Democrats from a moderate think tank. But they argued in favor of the invasion and in favor of the surge. I’m not so shocked that they think it’s all working out, or that they’re suggesting another F.U. or two, to see that it does.

That isn’t to say that what they say in the op-ed is false… Maybe the surge is working, and the new general & new head of defense deserve a lot of credit. I hope it is, because I want this war to end.

But touting it as any kinda change in mainstream liberal thinking is just false advertising.

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both o’hanlon and pollack were for the war long before they were against it…their reputations take a shot in the arm if we somehow succeed…which NO ONE seems able to define. (by the way bill kristol has also criticized the prosecution of this thing…does that make him a democrat?) in addition their OPINION piece ignores a great deal in order to make it’s point. ok…so all well and good. almost 4000 soldiers and two trillion dollars later we are (arguably) beginning to make some progress. what will it cost us in lives and dollars to actually close the deal? the iraqi military and the iraqi government are no shows…how long do we wait? and on what planet does this cost-benefit analysis make sense? now…someone is going to make a personal attack on me because of my point of view(inevitable it seems), and claim in all seriousness (even though their predictions to date have been all wrong) that if we leave chaos will explode. so by that logic we are left with no other option but to pursue a course of action brought about by our own original course of action. which o’hanlon and pollack supported before they didn’t.

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The first piece of good news (there’s been thousands) published by the NYSlimes and the dhimmi’s want to ban them from ‘being’ democrats. ROFL. I’ll wager that both of the writers have voted democrat only for years. Maybe the NYSlimes finally realized that 300 million people know they have been lying (only dim dhimmi’s would think different) like worthless dogs, so they decided to join the majority before they go down the drain as an organization. I think they’re a day late and a whole lot of dollars (readers) short. They’re still facing major cutbacks in employees and circulation.

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So O’Hanlon and Pollack’s piece just makes Democrats like Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi look foolish for trying to strangle the surge even before General Petraeus submits his progress report in September. I previously thought that the best we could hope for is a few ambiguous signs that the surge is working, but certainly nothing that would quell Democratic screams to withdraw. I still think that’s the case – that no amount of evidence will convince the most ardent anti-war activists or reverse politicians like Reid, who has cast his lot with the nutroots and has a vested political interest in seeing the U.S. fail in Iraq, to support the war effort. But again, when two Brookings wonks say things like “there is enough good happening on the battlefields of Iraq today that Congress should plan on sustaining the effort at least into 2008″ you gotta think it has the Democrats really nervous.

And so it should. This certainly doesn’t portend well for the Democrats, who own defeat in Iraq. And that may be the real “quagmire.”

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…two pro-Iraq-war analysts…

Two guys from the left leaning Brookings Institute are “pro war analyists”.

LOL.

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“Yes, this article written in one of the most liberal, biased, newspapers in the country by two men from a center-left think tank is quite shocking.”

Oh, yes, quite shocking that two pro-Iraq-war analysts should come out saying the war might still be winnable. Those guys are not liberals and they are certainly not anti-war types. They have criticized Bush’s management of the occupation, but everybody has done that. The New York Times ran their article as an opinion piece, not an editorial from the Times. Nothing has changed whatsoever—except the Iraqi parliament went on vacation, and that effectively means the Surge is dead.

k5

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Despite the constant propaganda of the right, the fact is that institutions like the NYT are NOT like institutions of the right – they are NOT propaganda machines for a particular ideology.

I almost fell outta my chair laughing after reading that. Wow, how naive.

Oh, and these leftist propaganda rags like the NYT’s do indeed decide which editorial to put up which best reflects their views of certain situations. You never see a conservative viewpoint in that piece of garbage newspaper, and for good reason, they are a liberal propaganda machine. This is the reason so many are shocked at this editorial.

Explain it away all you want. I know it will make you sleep better knowing your pink sky is still pink….but the fact remains that the NYT’s does not print differing view points, until know that is.

Ah, no. The al-Q-in-Iraq group chose to ally itself with Al-Q central, and central accpeted to lend them their brand. The notion that the al-Q-in iraq originated from al-Q central is just plain wrong.

Buzzzzz! Wrong again. al-Zarqawi was inside Iraq as early as 2002 to set this up with the full knowledge of Saddam. Please do some research outside of KOS and DummiesU propaganda before you spew such misinformation.

And this is total nonsense. 95% of the violence over the past 4 years has NOT been related whatsoever to al-Q.

/slaphead

Man, you really are dense.

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I guess you guys really dont get this (real) journalism thingie.

Despite the constant propaganda of the right, the fact is that institutions like the NYT are NOT like institutions of the right – they are NOT propaganda machines for a particular ideology.

To wit – this opinion piece was not, in any sense, a reflection of the views of the NYT. The notion of the “grey lady conceding” is absurd. This was an opinion piece that the Times published because it reflects what they consider to be a responsible perspective on the situation, irrespective of the extent that it agrees or disagrees with the position of the paper itself, or irresepctive of whether the Times thinks it is correct.

Its part of the striving for “objectivity” or fairness, or fostering the national debate in a responsible manner that is so alien to the right, so much an object of ridicule for the right.

When was the last time you saw an op-ed from a conservative who has turned against the war on the pages of the WSJ, or the Moonie Times?

Oh, and Wretchard is mind-numbingly wrong in his assessment.

” For that purpose its leadership established al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI)”

Ah, no. The al-Q-in-Iraq group chose to ally itself with Al-Q central, and central accpeted to lend them their brand. The notion that the al-Q-in iraq originated from al-Q central is just plain wrong.

“Therefore much of the post-Saddam violence was probably the consequence of al-Qaeda’s decision to flood all the resources of world terrorism into Iraq.”

And this is total nonsense. 95% of the violence over the past 4 years has NOT been related whatsoever to al-Q.

These are straightforward facts that everyone understands. How can you sustain respect for people who just make up stuff like this?

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A War We Just Might Win

If that is what it looks like to two analysts who have harshly criticized the Bush administration, just think what it looks like to a really objective reporter.

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