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	<title>Comments on: The Shadow Party &#8211; The Third Sister</title>
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		<title>By: scared shitless</title>
		<link>http://floppingaces.net/2007/07/11/the-shadow-party-the-third-sis/#comment-112023</link>
		<dc:creator>scared shitless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When are the cable networks going to connect the shadow party to Obama? It seems pretty clear to me that after Soros sucked Hillary dry of her ideas and schemes, he dropped her for a newer model in Obama! How do we get Fox to air this information for the masses? We are running out of time? We must cinch it now! The average Joe DOES NOT have this information!!!! RE-EXPOSE THE SHADOW PARTY!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>When are the cable networks going to connect the shadow party to Obama? It seems pretty clear to me that after Soros sucked Hillary dry of her ideas and schemes, he dropped her for a newer model in Obama! How do we get Fox to air this information for the masses? We are running out of time? We must cinch it now! The average Joe DOES NOT have this information!!!! RE-EXPOSE THE SHADOW PARTY!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anon E. Mouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon E. Mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A better question is what is Soros&#039; motive(s)?

He&#039;s not funding politics b/c he enjoys it.  The man is a hard-edged capitalist.

What is his angle -- where is his ROI?

For example, go look at his involvement in Ukranian and other regional FSU politics.  Then look where large oil pipelines are being built.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>A better question is what is Soros&#8217; motive(s)?</p>
<p>He&#8217;s not funding politics b/c he enjoys it.  The man is a hard-edged capitalist.</p>
<p>What is his angle &#8212; where is his ROI?</p>
<p>For example, go look at his involvement in Ukranian and other regional FSU politics.  Then look where large oil pipelines are being built.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 04:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I agree SJ.  There is bad on both sides, those who only want their side to win no matter what.  But when it comes to this Shadow Party issue I have to disagree with you.

Prior to McCain-Feingold Republicans had a 2-1 advantage in hard money contributions while Democrats bread and butter was the soft money, a large chunk of that from the HUGE AFL-CIO, SEIU and other union organizations.....but now that McCain-Feingold came to be unions couldn&#039;t give that money to Democrats directly anymore so you would think the Democrats would have been against MF.  But they weren&#039;t.  Many of those who eventually created the Shadow Party understood that using 527 committees could actually put more money into their coffers and could actually steer the party the way these few people wanted it steered.  Republicans were WAY behind on those committees....and still are, by a huge amount.

To this day Republicans have never even come close to building the type of network of independent, non-profit fundraising groups that the Democrats have.

So while I agree with your sentiment especially this part:

&lt;blockquote&gt;But - on the right we have people who, while not wealthy, are just as capable of creating problems.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I can&#039;t agree with your argument about Shadow Parties.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Oh, I agree SJ.  There is bad on both sides, those who only want their side to win no matter what.  But when it comes to this Shadow Party issue I have to disagree with you.</p>
<p>Prior to McCain-Feingold Republicans had a 2-1 advantage in hard money contributions while Democrats bread and butter was the soft money, a large chunk of that from the HUGE AFL-CIO, SEIU and other union organizations&#8230;..but now that McCain-Feingold came to be unions couldn&#8217;t give that money to Democrats directly anymore so you would think the Democrats would have been against MF.  But they weren&#8217;t.  Many of those who eventually created the Shadow Party understood that using 527 committees could actually put more money into their coffers and could actually steer the party the way these few people wanted it steered.  Republicans were WAY behind on those committees&#8230;.and still are, by a huge amount.</p>
<p>To this day Republicans have never even come close to building the type of network of independent, non-profit fundraising groups that the Democrats have.</p>
<p>So while I agree with your sentiment especially this part:</p>
<blockquote><p>But &#8211; on the right we have people who, while not wealthy, are just as capable of creating problems.</p></blockquote>
<p>I can&#8217;t agree with your argument about Shadow Parties.</p>
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		<title>By: SJ Reidhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>SJ Reidhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 04:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I were kidding.

Soros is a terrible problem.  But - we have the same mind-set on the &quot;right&quot;.  To ignore it is a serious problem.  When I first discovered this web of alliances I was shocked.  I&#039;ve now reached the point where nothing shocks me anymore along this line.

Until we are able to accept the fact that not all &#039;liberals&#039; are bad, and not all &#039;conservatives&#039; are good I don&#039;t think we can progress.  Don&#039;t ever think I am giving Soros a pass.  I think the man is positively evil.  He reminds me of a cartoon character Bond bad-guy, only he is real.  But - on the right we have people who, while not wealthy, are just as capable of creating problems.

SJ Reidhead
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>I wish I were kidding.</p>
<p>Soros is a terrible problem.  But &#8211; we have the same mind-set on the &#8220;right&#8221;.  To ignore it is a serious problem.  When I first discovered this web of alliances I was shocked.  I&#8217;ve now reached the point where nothing shocks me anymore along this line.</p>
<p>Until we are able to accept the fact that not all &#8216;liberals&#8217; are bad, and not all &#8216;conservatives&#8217; are good I don&#8217;t think we can progress.  Don&#8217;t ever think I am giving Soros a pass.  I think the man is positively evil.  He reminds me of a cartoon character Bond bad-guy, only he is real.  But &#8211; on the right we have people who, while not wealthy, are just as capable of creating problems.</p>
<p>SJ Reidhead</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn M. Cassel, AMH1(AW),USN,Retired</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn M. Cassel, AMH1(AW),USN,Retired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorta reminds me of the list we had to sign in 1973 when I enlisted in the Navy. It was of organizations considered subversive. Just a thought from an old seadog.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Sorta reminds me of the list we had to sign in 1973 when I enlisted in the Navy. It was of organizations considered subversive. Just a thought from an old seadog.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 00:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your joking right?

While it does go on in the right somewhat there is no billionaire conservatives who have set up their own shadow party of activist groups that &quot;get out the vote&quot;, instead they are trying their best to counter the leftist propaganda machine and failing miserably since competing against the MSM is a tough task.

EXCEPT talk radio, that is where we are excelling and the reason why they are pushing the Fairness Doctrine so hard.

I cannot agree with you that it happens just as much on the right as the left but I do absolutely agree with you that it doesn&#039;t matter which party is doing it, it needs to stop.  But with McCain-Feingold we&#039;re screwed.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Your joking right?</p>
<p>While it does go on in the right somewhat there is no billionaire conservatives who have set up their own shadow party of activist groups that &#8220;get out the vote&#8221;, instead they are trying their best to counter the leftist propaganda machine and failing miserably since competing against the MSM is a tough task.</p>
<p>EXCEPT talk radio, that is where we are excelling and the reason why they are pushing the Fairness Doctrine so hard.</p>
<p>I cannot agree with you that it happens just as much on the right as the left but I do absolutely agree with you that it doesn&#8217;t matter which party is doing it, it needs to stop.  But with McCain-Feingold we&#8217;re screwed.</p>
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		<title>By: SJ Reidhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>SJ Reidhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely fascinating.

The same thing is going on with the &quot;Far Right&quot; with Richard Viguerie, William Green, Right March, with some connection to Alan Keyes.

I have a feeling this incestuous spider-web of connecting organizations is designed to make constituencies look more powerful and numerous than they actually are.

Look at all the different ways these organizations, all basically one huge family entity, can funnel money into campaigns Ã¢â‚¬&quot; large amounts of it, do it legally, and have the candidate look Ã¢â‚¬ËœorthodoxÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ to additional fund-rising special interest groups that are not actually connected in these mazes.

I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t know about you, but to me it is Ã¢â‚¬ËœcheatingÃ¢â‚¬â„¢. It goes on with the Ã¢â‚¬Å“RightÃ¢â‚¬Â just as much as the Ã¢â‚¬Å“LeftÃ¢â‚¬Â.  I think that is what steams me so much.

SJ Reidhead
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Absolutely fascinating.</p>
<p>The same thing is going on with the &#8220;Far Right&#8221; with Richard Viguerie, William Green, Right March, with some connection to Alan Keyes.</p>
<p>I have a feeling this incestuous spider-web of connecting organizations is designed to make constituencies look more powerful and numerous than they actually are.</p>
<p>Look at all the different ways these organizations, all basically one huge family entity, can funnel money into campaigns Ã¢â‚¬&#8221; large amounts of it, do it legally, and have the candidate look Ã¢â‚¬ËœorthodoxÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ to additional fund-rising special interest groups that are not actually connected in these mazes.</p>
<p>I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t know about you, but to me it is Ã¢â‚¬ËœcheatingÃ¢â‚¬â„¢. It goes on with the Ã¢â‚¬Å“RightÃ¢â‚¬Â just as much as the Ã¢â‚¬Å“LeftÃ¢â‚¬Â.  I think that is what steams me so much.</p>
<p>SJ Reidhead<br />
The Pink Flamingo</p>
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