There’s no doubt that she (that is, her name in connection with her CIA status) was a secret that wasn’t supposed to be released,

tell that to her husband who put it into the Who’s Who’s book…the fact of that matter is that the only thing that matters is the law. She was not covert.

Be that it may, it’s quite ironic that after libby is convicted for perjury we now find out plame perjured herself. Just can’t make this stuff up.

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I don’t know for certain about the legal case. The words of the statute should definately take precidence over Toensing’s “legislative intent”–& those who craft a bill or statute should do so in such a way that the intent is contained in the wording, not in the interview days/weeks/years later–which makes this another “depends on the meaning of “is” situation. Were I miss Toensing, I’m not sure I’d so freely admit I had anything to do with such a poorly worded, vague statute. Hopefully someone will define the terms and get that intent in there.

But whether or not she was legally covered by IIPC, the CIA claims she was covert (as they define it) at the time she was outed. There’s no doubt that she (that is, her name in connection with her CIA status) was a secret that wasn’t supposed to be released, or that that secret was released, perhaps by people who were (& in some cases still are) in the White House. Whether or not it was an intentional act or classified as a crime, that release of secret info should concern everyone who cares about the security of this country.

Often, it doesn’t seem that it does, however…

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This is my favorite “Plame was covert” retort so far:

Hey dumbass! Foreign countries wouldn’t know Plame’s “real name” unless it was, say, LEAKED!

Whoever would have heard of Plame’s name in the context of CIA employment? Well I guess whoever Aldridge Ames leaked it to. Then of course there was that fax to the Swiss consulate in Cuba…

Finally, and this is of course the best one, the CIA’s own PR person (Obey I believe was his name) confirming her employment to Mr. Novak.

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Yup, going overseas on official CIA business using her real name….some covert operative. Secret spy stuff there…wow.

Either way you lefties are a dense bunch. CIA believed she was covert, the IIPC doesn’t. Which one matters?

One guess…..

Yup, the IIPC.

But we all know how much you value no one leaking sensitive information don’t we?

Friggin hypocrites.

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How the hell would the CIA know if she was a covert agent?

I’ll go with Curt’s opinion. After all, he can type.

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Looks pretty cut and dried.

Yup, CIA believed her to be covert while she is not covert via IIPC…cut n dried.

It would be interesting if you were ever proven right on anything.

Read the blog daily, instead of when the yahoo’s at salon or tbogg links to me and you will find out I’m right plenty, including Jamil.

BTW, the real story here is that the Bush White House doesn’t care about weapons proliferation, terrorism, or national security.
They will sacrafice the safety of Americans to pursue their own agenda, which has nothing at all to do with national security.

Puhlease. A story about Plame becomes a DummiesU talking point. Gag.

Hey dumbass! Foreign countries wouldn’t know Plame’s “real name” unless it was, say, LEAKED!

Oh really jerkoff? All they had to do was look at the who who’s book. Ignorance everywhere when it comes to you salon and tbogg readers.

Bobdevo…get it straight, her status was NOT covert as covered under the IIPC. You can believe she was all you want, you can stomp your feet on the ground while wailing “she was covert dammit!” but it does not make it true.

If she was covert as covered by the IIPC there would have been someone charged for that crime, because we all know who leaked it…cough Armitage cough….but she wasn’t covert so no crime. Instead he spends millions to get a perjury charge. Pathetic.

but blowhard bloggers and idiots like Victoria Toensing

That is classic. The person who drafted the IIPC is now an idiot.

Classic.

Can’t get any better then that.

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Tenet, Plame and Fitzfong, the three stooges of the intel world. Wilson is the ‘streight guy’, not smart enough to be a comedian.

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If, in fact, Val Plame continued to work at the CIA as a “covert” agent after her identity had been compromised, twice before Novak wrote a word, one is left to believe that Val Plame was either one of the bravest or one of the stupidest “covert” agents at the CIA.

I think it was either the latter or none of the above.

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The pathetic efforts to mischaracterize Fitzgerald’s filing would be laughable if they were not so inordinately wrong-headed.

Plame acted under NOC – non-offical cover. Subsequent to Jan 1 2002 she traveled outside the country at the behest of the CIA seven times to 10 countries. If captured, she would not have been protected by diplomatic immunity. Her life and liberty were at risk when she was on assignment – but blowhard bloggers and idiots like Victoria Toensing – pronounced her “not covert” without any knowledge of the details of her comings and goings, all in a failed effort to deflect attention away from the treasonous behavior of Scooter Libby – who will soon be serving time in a Federal prison – and Dick Cheney – the well-known draft dodger and drunk driver.

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“I mean a foreign country would never keep tabs on the real names of agents would they?”
Hey dumbass! Foreign countries wouldn’t know Plame’s “real name” unless it was, say, LEAKED!
You people are unbelievable. You make this too easy. Keep it up!

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